TheWarOnCars, to Podcast
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NEW EMERGENCY EPISODE!

"Kathy Hochul's Congestion Pricing Flip-Flop Fiasco." We discuss the 11th-hour decision to “indefinitely suspend” congestion pricing in New York. Was this bad politics or atrociously bad politics? What does it mean for the future of the subway, the economy, the environment and more?

More importantly, what can you do to save it?

https://thewaroncars.org/2024/06/07/kathy-hochuls-congestion-pricing-flip-flop-fiasco/

br00t4c, to random
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enobacon, to random
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Trying to figure out how to unravel the political, cultural, and institutional brainworms of ... with cars-for-brains democrats cancelling plans and trying to somehow fool themselves into making the DOTs solvent "with equity and climate as top priorities" is only going to further burden the poorest of kids with subsidies for the wealthiest of drivers. Agencies that build roads for cars are fundamentally unequipped to fix this problem & so is our political system.

NewsDesk, to delhi
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New York Gov. Kathy Hochul delays traffic congestion pricing plan for New York City.

The Hill quotes the governor: “Let’s be real: a $15 charge may not mean a lot to someone who has the means, but it can break the budget of a working- or middle-class household. It puts the squeeze on the very people who make this City go: the teachers, first responders, small business workers, bodega owners."

https://flip.it/UAlG74

#Traffic #CongestionPricing #NYC #USPolitics #Hochul #Commuter

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In retrospect, it's clear that as soon as #CongestionPricing cleared what was supposed to be the last hurdle, advocates should have started posting pictures of Varick Street at rush hour with "25 days until we clean this up."

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Sad to see Mastodon so quiet on #CongestionPricing today so I went back to Musk-land to rant about it. Here's one thing I wrote:

I think most of the suburban drivers see congestion pricing in entirely symbolic terms. It represents the abandonment of a strategy of enriching the middle class through subsidies to driving - something many of them have built their lives around. Even THOUGH they benefit, they hate the long-term implications.

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"A fourth person familiar with the matter said Hochul is responding to worries raised by Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader who is fiercely trying to win back a Democratic majority this year."

We've known for years that Jeffries is a car-brained idiot. The success of #CongestionPricing will help Democrats win back the house, not the other way around.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/04/hochul-congestion-pricing-delay-00161690

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capntransit, to random
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Public comment on transportation projects is not representative. It is not a vote. It is also not a shouting match.

It doesn't matter how many people show up to support any position. It doesn't matter how loud or passionate they are. It matters whether they make a good argument.

That said, because government officials can be tempted to interpret public comments as a vote, I'm glad 2/3 of the comments were in favor of in NYC.

I am so sick of commenting on this thing!

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Car traffic rerouted through New Jersey is an "environmental disaster." But the same traffic sent into Manhattan is just fine.

https://www.nj.com/traffic/2024/03/gov-murphy-slams-nyc-15-congestion-pricing-toll-while-offering-to-meet-with-ny-state-leaders.html?outputType=amp

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Checking out the Pakistani charcoal grill near the Lincoln Tunnel exit and watching the parasitic toll thieves pour in from suburbia

#nyc #hellskitchen_nyc #congestionpricing #trafficviolence

haselbach, to washington

#Washington is planning a #RoadUsageCharge (#RUC). The main driver for this seems to be that WA is mostly funding its road maintenance from the gas tax and that is projected to fall significantly, ostensibly due to EVs ("from $1.3 billion in 2026 to under $1 billion in 2035" - https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2023/10/11/washingtons-long-road-to-replacing-the-gas-tax/). I understand that the migration to EVs causes revenue loss that needs to be addressed but I'm very skeptical that an RUC can be implemented in a reasonable way.

haselbach,

A toll system w/ could be an alternative. The problem with this is that something like needs expensive equipment. The cost of building this out needs to be weight against the cost of . My guess is that the long term cost of it is lower than the administrative cost of RUC with all its exemptions. It can be made much fairer by only charging in places where alternatives are available and it's a better tool to address congestion and environmental concerns.

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Might be time for motorists to pay a toll to drive into downtown at rush hour, councilor says
https://www.universalhub.com/2024/might-be-time-motorists-pay-toll-drive-downtown

capntransit, to random
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RT @regionalplan Half of one percent of residents in Orange and Dutchess counties drive into the CBD - fewer than 3,200 people.

Meanwhile, revenue will fund projects along the Port Jervis and Hudson Metro-North lines. Twice as many people would benefit from better transit.

[QT of dumb statement by Representative Pat Ryan]

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RT @tri_state Gov. Kathy Hochul pointed to New York's transportation sector accounting for nearly 1/3 of the state's greenhouse gas emissions. will reduce the emissions that endanger our health, our children, and our city.

TNLNYC, to nyc
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has had a long birth cycle in but it is finally here. Woohoo!

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capntransit, to random
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RT @cssnyorg Revenue generated by will help finance MTA's crucial transit projects, including investments in buses, subways and commuter rail.

It will also create tens of thousands of local jobs throughout the state.

https://amsterdamnews.com/news/2023/12/07/urban-agenda-congestion-pricing-will-mean-fewer-cars-safer-streets-and-cleaner-air/

990000, to cars
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Interesting convo on Nextdoor, even if poorly handled, about the need for a car if you have a lifestyle of traveling outside the city often and have a big dog which you can’t take on public transpo.

My takeaway is that it might be better to live outside the city where you can have a big dog and car and and just commute to the city to work (as opposed to having your cake and eating it too by living in the city and needing a car for such things).

Commenter 1: Some people who have large dogs need cars.Not allowed in public transportation. Perhaps we should get rid of dogs? Commenter 2: Where do you need to drive your dog and how often? Commenter 3: beach. Hiking. Visiting friends outside NYC. Etc. good grief your question is very unevolved. Live a little. Commenter

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RT @komanoff That Star-Ledger editorial could have gone further and called out Murphy for spending $10+B on his asinine, self-defeating NJTP Newark Bay - Hudson County highway widening. But the editorial's ringing endorsement of is welcome and gorgeous. Bravo!

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