Yawweee877h444

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Yawweee877h444,

Just saw this as well. The good thing is at least it’s being reported on, and importantly not in a negative mocking way. I like Tim’s reasonable responses as well. When he’s asked his opinion on what they are, his first response is we simply don’t know, then speculates the obvious possibilities.

This is the kind of reasonable reporting needed.

Yawweee877h444,

Whats the point or motive? Doesn’t make sense to kill your consumer base from a business standpoint. Maybe they’re just dumb and trying this as a cheap filler or something, and the results are “oops, oh well”?

Yawweee877h444,

It’s a fucking shihtzu, which are tiny. And this ones blind and deaf. Holy shit do we need drastic and violent police reform. Like fire 90% and completely retrain from the ground up. Not gonna happen though obviously.

Victim reports his father missing. Police instead interrogated him for 17 hours, said they killed his dog, and withheld his meds from the victim. Victim tried to commit suicide in the room. (lemmy.world)

At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator....

Yawweee877h444,

So taxpayers are paying this right?

The cops responsible should be forced to give every penny they have to their name. Cash, property, investments, 401k, the clothes on their fucking back. Then they can go work in those prison chain gangs for 8 dollars a day picking up trash on the streets to pay off the remaining debt. Unironically.

Colonel Karl Nell - The Real Black Swan Event: The Controlled Disclosure of UAP & Non-Human Intelligence (www.youtube.com)

I updated the video’s link to SALT’s official video. I wasn’t expecting them to get the video up so fast, since their other videos seemed to take a while to be uploaded after events. Out of all of the NYC event’s discussions, this has been the first and only interview to get uploaded.

Yawweee877h444, (edited )

Yeah I’m also glad Nell was Grusch’s replacement. The fact that these guys are/were really high up, clean slate, no bullshitters really hits hard. And how they say everything so “matter of fact”.

This really feels like the slow/soft disclosure. The Schumer amendment, and importantly the portion that was gutted, is all a big part of it. How can people deny it now? Yes, we all want to see the “cool stuff” and really hard evidence, I get it. But I feel like the default position should be essentially what Nell said, that the gov’t has pretty much admitted to it. If debunkers want to say it’s all a conspiracy theory or scam, I feel like they need to provide some convincing evidence. I don’t think im asking to prove a negative given everything we have at this point.

I’m still bitter about that amendment. Would love to be a “fly on the wall” in regards to the House Republicans that were responsible for the block. Were they payed out without being informed of why, or are they clued in? I could see them just taking money and being told just to block it, and what specifics to remove. We may never know. If we get full disclosure, it might not matter and be forgotten. I’d still like some accountability though, lol.

Yawweee877h444, (edited )

Great post. Been waiting for this.

His immediate answer to the very first simple and direct question:

Interviewer - do you believe that a higher form of non human intelligence has visited this planet?

Nells response: Non human intelligence exists, … it’s been interacting with humanity, this interaction is not new and its been ongoing…

Interviewer - how confident are you that that is true?

Nell - there’s zero doubt.

It’s just so cool to hear this. What do the debunkers say about Nell? He’s lying to get a book deal?

Yawweee877h444,

Isn’t a bigger problem his base and supporters? They’re the ones giving him this power. Yes, we definitely want to make sure trump loses, but his supporters aren’t going anywhere. They’ll just support the next trump like person, who could be even worse.

Yawweee877h444,

Water is wet, the sky is blue, capitalism ruins everything.

Yawweee877h444,

Your speculation doesn’t hold water by any means.

The foundation of this entire fiasco is that there are special access programs getting tax funds and they’re not disclosing details to congress or the executive branch. This is part of why Grusch was investigating these programs, and became a whistleblower.

I wouldn’t bet a dollar they’d tell trump anything, or any pres for that matter.

Yawweee877h444,

I still remain logically skeptical and also want hard evidence, but a lot of what you say doesn’t make any sense.

He went under oath as a whistleblower. Book writing and doing this as a cash grab makes absolutely zero sense. If he’s lying or making shit up, he’s toast. He seems to know and follow the law way too well for some fancy grift.

The entire reason he’s not “showing evidence” is because it’s all classified and he’ll be crucified. You know this, which means you are being deliberately disingenuous.

Imo he’s done his job. The ball is now in the court of our ridiculously flawed and corrupt government. Why don’t they grab all the 40 people Grusch interviewed? Why don’t they forcefully get the answers and evidence Grusch has?

We know. It’s classified. Need to know. National security.

Yawweee877h444,

Meh, I’m kinda suspicious of even replying to you as your arguments are really silly, and your probably just a troll, but,

People still lie though.

I think this is already the consensus among people who at least didn’t believe in UFOs before hearing about him.

Honestly, what argument are you even making here? If he’s lying under oath, severe criminal penalties. His claims are based on evidence he was given by people he investigated/interviewed. You’re saying he’s lying about it? For what, a book deal? You are very much grasping at straws here.

Pathologies can be sneaky like that.

Zero evidence of “pathologies”. All signs point to him being very mentally stable, thus far. You’re just making stuff up now.

You can’t know that, you’re just wildly guessing. It’s a convenient cop-out for bullshitters.

What are you even talking about? This is what’s being reported. I’m only as good as the information I’m given. What you’re trying to say is he’s lying, he has no info, nothing is classified? You have zero evidence to back up your claim that he’s lying.

I only agree with you only that I want hard evidence before I just “believe aliens are here”.

Because I believe it’s all made up.

Very simply, you don’t have evidence “it’s all made up”. Obviously. Anyway you seem like you’re just having fun being the antagonist troll as none of your arguments are compelling.

I find the whole situation interesting and want real answers regardless of the outcome.

Yawweee877h444,

I dont think what you’re saying is accurate.

“you don’t have the evidence to prove a negative”

I dont think im asking for this. The poster I’m responding to is making very specific claims. Very definitively, that Grusch is lying, either for a money grab grift in some form, or due to “pathologies”. For these specifics I would like some evidence, of which there is none.

If OP would leave it simply at “I don’t believe it because I haven’t seen enough evidence to convince me”, then we would have a lot more in common as I’m in the same boat! I also want to see evidence regardless of which conclusion it leads to.

However, where we differ might be that given all the current info the public has, there is enough to take it seriously and desire more investigation. There’s too much now to automatically say it’s “absolutely untrue, and all BS and lies.”

Yawweee877h444,

This argument is significantly weaker than most people who voice it are aware, imo.

Our current understanding of the universe, physics, space travel, etc., leads us to believe your statement. The universe is too big, travel takes too long, we’re limited by things like the speed of light, and whatever fuel/energy is required to travel through space.

Speculating here obviously, an intelligent species that is significantly more advanced than us could have a much better understanding of physics and the universe, to an extent that we couldn’t even comprehend. This is the definition of “more advanced”. They could be a little more advanced, or so far beyond us that we could never even comprehend their abilities or motives for anything. Kinda like how you will never be able to teach a chimpanzee calculus, it’s brain simply isn’t capable of learning the concepts, ever, no matter how much time you have to try.

We’ve only really had advanced applied science (according to us, since it’s all we know) for like the last 100 years or so? Splitting the atom, the transistor, etc.

Imagine a species that kept advancing for 100s of thousands or 10s of millions of years? Traveling galaxies could be easy for them, we simply don’t know.

My reasoning above is also similar why I feel like the Fermi peridox is really unsatisfying. We can’t see aliens emitting technosignatures like light or other electromagnetic radiation, or heat signatures or whatever. We’re thinking like humans, expecting to see things exactly as we do them. If an alien species is so far beyond us, they could think communication via photons and electromagnetic radiation is archaic, etc.

Yawweee877h444,

We are, in reality, dealing with a much larger issue.

Care to articulate how you’d describe it?

Much more than just capitalism, right? Like that, plus our entire culture, generations of propaganda and indoctrination. All of our power structures, political, financial, military, media, education.

Everything. Much larger issue is an understatement. How do we fix it?

Yawweee877h444,

Or our businesses don’t want this type of competition? An affordable and reliable sub 10k EV? This would hurt our businesses and billionaire class, no?

If I needed a new car, and had a 10k EV as an option, it’d be my first choice to look into.

Por que no los dos, though.

Yawweee877h444,

Yeah I mostly agree with you. Except there was plot and lore in 2016, it was just minimalist as you said, but more importantly it was executed really well. It had the “doom” feel. In addition to awesome gameplay and soundtrack.

Eternal was great for the gameplay, and even an improvement in some ways. The lore and plot was ridiculous though. Way overdone, didn’t feel like doom.

I say go back to 2016 style with the gameplay improvements of eternal.

Yawweee877h444,

Nah my comparison is to 2016. I just thought it was overdone in eternal to the point of silliness. Subjective opinion obviously.

It wasn’t all bad though. The introduction to the “evil twin” doomguy was kinda fun. So if no DLC you missed that at least.

Yawweee877h444,

Yep, agree to agree here. I just thought the gameplay improvements in eternal were fun. But I agree the way you put it, kind of a departure from what doom should be.

Yawweee877h444,

I hate this fucker so much.

Is it really this, or fucking trump in November? These are our options? The universe is fucking cruel.

Why can’t both biden and trump just die of old age already.

Yawweee877h444,

Awww, capitalist oligarchy not to your liking? Eat cake, pleb.

Yawweee877h444,

No. We can still pay workers much better and make much more lower priced affordable models.

Stop giving the CEOs, upper management, investors, etc., millions and millions of dollars. I don’t care what anyone says.

We can have the sub 10k priced EV, or even less, like China has. They can still make money on luxury/performance “status” models.

This is all about keeping extreme wealth for the extreme wealthy. Wall Street, etc. Full stop.

We can have very well payed workers and much cheaper yet still quality vehicles.

Yawweee877h444,

Is there a motive?? I didn’t see any mention in the article other than someone else asking the same question I have, why the hell did he do it?

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