elizayer

elizayer, 13 days ago

@xahteiwi No recognizable state transition whatsoever! Misunderstandings seem to happen at a fairly even rate, and normally they are triggers for curiosity and exploration. Forging relationships. Cumulative.

In the rare cases I've experienced anything I'd recognize as "storming," it's never resolved through norming to performing, despite solid efforts. It's been "wait it out until a team composition change."

elizayer, 13 days ago

@xahteiwi Yes, I can well believe that it captures the essence for many folks!

Maybe I just see the conflict as less intrusive? And haven't experienced it peak and settle quite the same way as "normal"?

I dunno. Just never particularly resonated for me. 🤷‍♀️

elizayer, 13 days ago

@xahteiwi I'll admit I hadn't ever gone back to Tuckman's original paper, but here's what he says about Stage 2:

"The second phase in the development of group structure is labeled as intragroup conflict. Group members become hostile toward one another and toward a therapist or trainer as a means of expressing their individuality and resisting the formation of group structure."

https://web.mit.edu/curhan/www/docs/Articles/15341_Readings/Group_Dynamics/Tuckman_1965_Developmental_sequence_in_small_groups.pdf

elizayer, 13 days ago

@xahteiwi It reads as very much a product of its time (reviewing studies between 1949-1961).

I’m assuming its longevity comes from the permission it gives people to not get along? And comfort that feeling bad in a group is common and temporary?

elizayer, 13 days ago

@xahteiwi So many potential models! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_development

elizayer, 1 month ago

@gdinwiddie the real reason they don't like remote work

elizayer, 3 months ago

@matthewskelton Thank you!!

elizayer, 3 months ago

@Di4na @SynAck @skiles Yeeeees, keep ownership, control, and risk all together WHERE THEY SHOULD BE ❤️

elizayer, 3 months ago

@Di4na @SynAck @skiles I'm holding onto the hope that demand for well-sustained software grow with the overall maturity of each product category (and the current frustration builds).

It seems worth by being prepared to seize the opportunity if the structural incentives line up! Right now I'm pretty convinced our industry's workers couldn't do that.

elizayer, 3 months ago

@SynAck @Di4na @skiles

My position, based on a very incomplete understanding of the world: no, I don’t think change will happen without pressure and power being exerted by the workers, who would need to join in a common cause with users.

elizayer, 3 months ago

@SynAck @Di4na @skiles

After all, today sustainably-run companies need to compete with ridiculously overfunded competitors, whose entry phase to a market starts by using that money to destroy incumbents. That’s something only consumers (or government representing consumers) have the power to stop, not the well-run companies themselves.

elizayer, 3 months ago

@SynAck @Di4na @skiles

I remember a friend riding a Lyft in the early days saying, “sure I’m happy for the VCs to subsidise my taxis for a while.” No major change seems possible without a shift in that mentality.

I also believe, though, that change is inevitable and I’d rather aim for course correction than a catastrophic collapse and renewal.

elizayer, 3 months ago

@cornazano @matthewskelton @Di4na @SynAck @skiles I used to work somewhere where there was good-natured ribbing between "Innovation" and "Stuff people actually want" teams. A better name could also focus on that aspect?

Just... not Extract :-)

elizayer, 3 months ago

@Di4na @billseitz @SynAck @skiles Not disagreeing, Thomas, but I'd love to hear a little bit more on the observation about being near-impossible to move to Sustain.... Do you think it is tech debt? Unreasonable product promises? Culture? Is there any one area which seems more unmovable than the others?