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evan, to random
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@ariadne so, the current story is per-instance mod teams plus between-server blocks.

We probably need better ootb support for shared blocklists, so new sites don't get brigaded by Nazis.

We probably also need better shared metrics, and I'd like to see more Bayesian filtering to catch harassing content before it happens.

Anyway, do you think there are other structures we need?

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

We watched Avatar tonight. My son had never seen it. The effects were great. There was a lot of abusive language that made me glad we don't live in the 90s anymore.

gam3,

@evan You can watch "FernGully: The Last Rainforest" and see the same movie without the language.

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

HFS, HH is the CEO of USDR!!!

https://fedscoop.com/hillary-hartley-interview/

Thanks for doing this hard work, Hillary!

@quepol

quepol,

@evan 😁❤️ thanks, Evan! 6 weeks in now, brain on fire, loving it.

evan, (edited ) to random
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The difference between here and other places is that you're a participant here.

All of us are building this network together, right now.

Is it perfect? Not yet. Not by a long shot!

But we can keep fixing it and making it what we want. Together, collectively, every day.

This social web we're building isn't a product on a supermarket shelf. It's a society. It's a whole world.

I'm here for the long run. I'm going to keep doing what I can. Thanks for doing what you're doing. I see you. Thanks.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@dneary so, there are two ways that can work here.

First, documenting the extension and getting other developers to implement the extension.

Second, using fallback representations that most implementations recognize. In this case, I'd look at HTML or an image rendering as a fallback.

Protocols are hard. But starting with a base protocol and building up from there is the best way to succeed.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

You don't have to make software to be building this network.

It's not a computer network; it's a people network.

It's made up of individuals and social structures, connected by norms and traditions and shared stories and software and hardware.

Every time you mod, go to a meeting, try an app, use a server, donate to a Patreon, join a coop, you're building the network.

Every time you make a joke, share a picture, give someone encouragement, click the boost button, that's building the network.

evan, to random
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For some reason we had 9 liter bags of milk in the fridge. So I used six of them to make yogurt. It's so good!

ai6yr,

@evan "for some reason"

seanbala,
@seanbala@mas.to avatar

@evan Paneer?

evan, (edited ) to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

Do you let social apps read your contacts so you can find your friends?

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

This is a big bummer. I'm a qualified yes; I let security-minded apps use my contact list to find friends.

I think it would be a great way for us to help with bootstrapping new Mastodon users' social graph, especially now that the Twitter friend finders are gone.

rylancole,

@evan I think “security-minded” is the key term. I let Signal and ProtonMail have my contacts, that’s all. I think we’ve all come to learn not to trust most apps with anything

evan, to random
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evan, to random
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@timbray is there a good page on your blog that's a summary of your history with Atom? I'm thinking a lot about standards lately, and I feel like there could be some lessons there.

timbray,
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@evan In the rear-view I wouldn’t call Atom a success story, but what makes me sad is that the related publishing protocol got no uptake. Oh well.

Answer to your question, far too long to be useful: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/What/Technology/Atom/

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@timbray so, you're aware of how directly Atom is an antecedent to Activity Streams, right? And that AtomPub was the inspiration for the ActivityPub API? Our first API on StatusNet/GNU Social was AtomPub with ActivityStreams Atom objects as a command language.

evan, (edited ) to random
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If offered the chance, would you leave Earth?

larand,

@evan More information needed. Permanently? Temporarily? Destination?

xaphania,
@xaphania@meemu.org avatar

@Jyoti @evan i didn't get to vote but i wouldn't even hesitate. wobbly portal to an unknown destination anywhere in the universe? i'm jumping straight into that bad boy without taking a breath

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@cosocial hello! Who's here?

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

If you're at you can try the @cosocial guppy group. It's kind of cool!

emd,
@emd@cosocial.ca avatar

@evan @cosocial what if I don’t have a guppy?

evan, to random
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Is there an easy way to generate a CSV of at least username, display name, and email from a Mastodon instance?

We need it for to correlate our OpenCollective member list with the Mastodon member list.

John,
@John@socks.masto.host avatar

@evan it should be fairly simple but there is anyone on staff who is comfortable with doing database queries. Select on users and accounts, left join on user.account_id = accounts.id

I say that after just doing a really quick search for what the mastodon database schema looks like

evan,
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@mick I think this one is it. @alkatandan is the one who needs it. I was hoping there was a tootctl command for it, but a pg query is fine too.

Could Tech Ops set up a cron job to generate the report for Membership working group like once per week or so?

https://social.theokadas.com/@mr_vinn/110262354768973843

evan, (edited ) to random
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How many times have you left your native country?

johannab,
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@evan I think for Canadians, given the length and lack of defense at our land border, "leave your country" can have a very low bar.

That said, I've left a still-countable number of times, most to the US, a couple of times just for a day.

If you ask "how many different countries have you visited" well, my answer ends up being "too few!!!". Would love to have the means and time to get out of North America more.

vicuzumeri,

@evan

I suspect some of it is steeped in family and culture. Canada is a nation of immigrants. Even though I was born in Toronto, I had relatives in Turkey from my earliest years and my parents were seasoned travellers, so I caught the bug.

When I lived and taught in Alabama for 2 decades, I met lots of 10th generation Southerners that had seldom left their own state, let alone the US.

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

Idea: a day-long hackathon but you're only allowed to code, admin and test on a phone without peripherals

vyr,

@evan @chris nah not really. it's been 12 years. the last time i used the thing was as an FM radio transmitter to replace the Top 40 in the bathroom at work.

irongut,
@irongut@mastodon.scot avatar

@evan Is that the first circle of developer hell? 😁

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

Why: temp rise under 1.5C

What: zero emissions by 2050; capture CO2

How to get to zero: vote and donate to climate+ pols, electric or no car, trains not planes, clean electricity or home solar, low or no meat, buy climate+

How to capture: plant 500 billion trees

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@fifilamoura A team at ETH Zurich did a study on it in 2019. 500 billion was their number.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aax0848

radio,

@evan I wish people would get wise to the climate cost of meat. This should be a mystery. I'm also glad you mentioned planes. How costly one flight is!
and these people who brag about their flight to some "progressive" conference... how many times? those flier miles do add up.

evan, to random
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

So, what do we need to do to get Diaspora* connected to the Fediverse?

They're such an important part of the social web movement. I miss having them here.

EricCarroll,
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@evan
I moved to diaspora after G+ as it seemed alot of the folks were going there. I left because it was a ghost town. Plus the usual background radiation of porn, spam & bad actors.

I finally figured out it was a protocol island and wasn't going to change.

evan,
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@EricCarroll I kind of regret we don't have as good support for addressing "circles" or "aspects" here.

It's possible with ActivityPub but not widely implemented.

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