humanetech

@humanetech@lemmy.ml

I am https://mastodon.social/@humanetech at Mastodon, and advocate, mod at SocialHub, and facilitator of Humane Tech Community.

I help fight tech harms and “Promote Solutions that Improve Wellbeing, Freedom and Society”.

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dimitar_salin, to fediversefutures Russian

@fediversefutures test from mastodon

humanetech,

If you don’t mind, I delete this post again. This is not a community for such tests, there may be a Lemmy-related one that’s better suited.

humanetech,

Adding reference to HN submission of this article. Discussion thus far has 233 comments.

humanetech,

There’s no responsibility at all. There’s also full freedom to complain however you wish. If you do that on someone’s free work with which they try to help others, it just doesn’t look very good on you. That’s all.

humanetech,

Oh, that kind is good. Constructive feedback is very valuable. But the fediverse is full of people dropping derogatory sarcastic comments or even reacting in rage, that aren’t helpful in the slightest. I should’ve made that clearer in my first comment.

humanetech,

One thing I don’t get. Among the gazilion “Oh, it is sooo easy to do this better” complainers are countless developers and designers. This whole Mastodon thing is Free Software, where countless people spent some of their free time and energy to give you what there is today. Complainer devs and UX folks, are your PR’s getting rejected?

humanetech,

That second comment by goplayoutside says it well: "Maybe the modest technical hurdles are a feature, not a bug."

I think it is a feature, and the same is true for Mastodon and the Fediverse as a whole, imho.

humanetech,

The reason for the comment count being off has been found. In Settings you need to have 'Undetermined' in your language selection, or any comment where language wasn't specified becomes invisible (incl. old comments before language was a property on posts).

humanetech,

Indeed. "Sense of community" is an aspect where additional socio-technical support native to the Fediverse can be quite helpful. We have the basics now. There's work to add Groups support, but community is more than just groups. It has intricate and meaningful relationships between many other groups and people. Just like in real life.

humanetech,

SocialHub has an association with the W3C Social Web Incubator Community Group (SWICG). The SWICG is a continuation of the Working Group that standardized ActivityPub as a W3C Recommendation. So technically this organization exists.

In practice it is really hard to organize in an all-volunteer grassroots movement, and many people for various reasons don’t like to participate in such organization. “Herding cats” is a term that is used. Being grassroots has pros (resilience) and cons (stalled evolution). Personally I have come to think that decentralized development of the Fediverse probably works best when it is split into different domains (e.g. Microblogging, Podcasting, etc.) as long as there’s also a community working on the core common denominator in the protocol. That is currently the SocialHub and Fediverse Enhancement Proposal process.

humanetech,

Current functionality of the plugin is still rather limited. The following 2 categories federate:

But right now that only creates a toot on a new topic creation, and replies from the fediverse aren't becoming replies in the forum. Hellekin has experimented with it, and SocialHub is open to beta-test.

humanetech,

Fully agree. Those doing Groups need to be continuously reminded about this compatibility. Tendency to "wheel reinvention" is high and co-creation is also not front and center in thinking with implementers, unfortunately. There's a Groups FEP created by Lemmy dev. I nudged Flarum, nodeBB and Discourse folks to come together. On SocialHub @trwnh gave some great insights. I hope more FEP's will be proposed, so that interop guarantees can be higher.

humanetech,

Oh for sure it would benefit a lot. A migration to Lemmy has come up in the past.. though it would mean losing a ton of community/forum management features. But there's movement towards federation of SocialHub, with The Pavilion who wrote an ActivityPub plugin. It is enabled on the SocialHub and 2 categories are currently federating. The plugin will be developed further, and feedback is being collected. See:

Two more forum softwares are adding federation support: Flarum and nodeBB

humanetech,

Thank you. Well, not so much on this topic speciically. I would advise to create a bit more elaborate call-for-help with some more background info, cross-post it to other relevant Lemmy communities, boost it on the Fediverse. And likely good to create a separate fedi (pleroma/mastodon/ etc.) toot with a bunch of hashtags in it and a link to the Lemmy post. Hashtags like:

humanetech,

The question is whether the project should be forked into multiple separate projects at all. An alternative would be to have a generic “Directory Platform” and have modules to make it a Book Review platform, a Movie Database, or whatever-you-wanna-collect platform with another module. The modules would mostly be templates and data structures + user interface widgets to present them nicely.

humanetech,

This does not exist, as far as I know. I co-maintain the ActivityPub Application Watchlist which is AFAIK the most complete list of federated apps. If anyone knows about any app that should be on this list, I'd be glad to know :)

humanetech,

I have happy news in that regard. We have migrated the watchlists to the Delightful Project on Codeberg. And they are rendered on the Delightful Club website.

humanetech,

Dating-like apps come up in fedi discussions quite often. They have interesting aspects, for instance where obviously privacy is a big concern and where current generation of federated apps aren’t adequate for dating. And how do communities / instances establish their trustworthiness? There are kinds of ‘dating’ were the requirements can be less severe. Like “Meet new Friends” kind of services where e.g. you seek folks for collaborative gameplay in some MMORPG or something.

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