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jkanev

@jkanev@fediscience.org

Coding, science, technology and laziness.

Working in software development and computational neuroscience.

Author of TreeTime (https://tree-time.info), PasswordInfo (http://pass-word.info), and NeuroLab (http://www.jkanev.info/neurolab/index.html).

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idan, to random
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If you are using the word genocide to describe anything about Israel or Palestine (other than the repeated attempts by Arab actors to murder every Jew across decades), then you're a racist.

@seb This toot reposted because it's not in response to anyone. It's not here to make anyone comfortable. It's here to make people uncomfortable with their own hypocrisy and racism. It's here to document my lived experience. And it's entirely factual.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @seb @idan Because "genocide" does not accurately describe that behaviour. It is deliberate misuse. The racism comes in if you, in parallel, choose to describe other groups' behaviour that might fit the description "genocide" a lot better, as not genocide.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb Which is not happening here. A substantial proportion of Palestinians live in Israel. They are not targeted. However, the Gaza government has declared it is its holy goal to kill every Jew under the sun. That would be accurately called genocide.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb The issue is not about what's bad, but about what's genocide. By defining a group narrowly enough that they match those who are being killed, you can label any killing as "genocide". There's no genocide against Palestinians, but if you redefine the group as "Gazan Palestinians", things might look different. My argument: if you do that, but not call out e.g., the genocide of the "West-Israel Kibbutz Jews", then you're showing some (possibly racial) bias.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb But it starts even earlier. Your language is biased if you call one side "Palestinians" (a group of people), and the other "State of Israel" (an administrative construct). If you say "Israel is committing war crimes against Palestinians", you must logically also phrase it as "Palestine is committing war crimes against Israelis."

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @seb @idan Aren't they people in both cases? And what term would you use for the actor who fires rockets out of Gaza, and what term would you use for the rockets' recipients? It should then be "Palestine fires rockets at Israeli civilians", right? Or at least "Gaza government uses military force against Israelis"?

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

The state is called "Israel", not the "Israeli State". The other is called "State of Palestine", founded in 1988, deliberately without clear borders; but issues passports, has elected a (fascist) government in Gaza, has universities, hospitals, military brigades, and an (observatory) seat in the UN.
The rockets theyre launching are not ineffective at all, as you remember when half a rocket dropped onto a hospital in Gaza a while ago.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

Which party you see as the underdog in this situation is a deliberate choice. If you look at a map, Israel is a tiny state sandwiched between a hostile Arabia and Northern Africa, far from being a "hegemony in the region".

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

I agree it would be weird to deny the apriory possibility of Israelis to commit genocide. However, I never said that. What I said was that for it to be "genocide" they would need to kill, with prior intent, the entire population of Gaza, the entire poluation of the West Bank, plus 20% of the Israelis living inside Israel. Thats is not happening.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

Calling this "genocide" is quite a stretch. You have to invent a new People ("Gazan Palestinians") in order for that claim to work. It is not racist only if do that same stretch in all other situations, e.g. say the British committed genocide when they bombarded Dresden in WWII (killing women and children to wipe out the "Ethnicity of Dresdeners"), or Hamas slaughtering Israelis beginning of October, successfully killing the "Ethnicity of West-Israel Kibbutz People".

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

Allow me one last remark as well: Fighting over definitions when people get slaughtered and killed is not going to help. I believe the conflict is not about Israel against Palestine, but rather about Fascism, the Right, and the Ultrareligious against ordinarly people, the Left, and Democracy.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

No. That's not what I meant. The reason it is not genocide is because there is neither the intent nor the attempt to kill all Palestinians. The intent is to kill Hamas, an organisation.

On 7th October there was the attempt to destroy as many Jews as possible, by an organisation that aims to to kill them all. Yet you do not call that a genocide. Why?

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

You argued, based on the Geneva convention, that killing even part of an ethnical or religious group, with intent, would also amount to genocide. That description fits Hamas' actions perfectly.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

Wow. I'm excusing the murder of children? Where did you read that? I'm sorry, but it seems you're leaving civilised discourse here.
For the books: I think what's going on in Gaza is horrible.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

The intention is not to destroy Palestinians, whether in whole or in part. The point is: All you say describes Hamas' actions too. Why do you make a difference here?

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @idan @seb

Hamas has slaughtered a part of the Jewish population, with intent, and successfully. The target of their actions is a group they define by religious and/or ethnic terms. That fits the description 100%.

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @seb @idan

What's going on in Gaza is absolutely horrible. People are starving, IDF soldiers are shooting and bombing, Hamas soldiers are shooting. I've read about Hamas shooting Palestinians, seen IDF soldiers proudly telling how they saved Palestinians. I've seen the results of mass murder. Children being killed in huge numbers. Desperation everywhere. "Genocide" is a propaganda term that's not needed to describe the absolutely dire situation. What for? To make a point?

jkanev,
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@HeavenlyPossum @seb @idan

I believe the decisive factor for genocide is the "intent" to substantially harm a group that is religiously or ethnically defined. That means there should be the intention to extinguish people because they're Muslims of Arab descent. Given the large share of Palestinians with Israeli passports enjoying substantial rights I cannot see that.

ct_bergstrom, to random
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Everyone you know is stupider than you imagine.

jkanev,
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@ct_bergstrom "Everyone you know is stupider than you imagine." -- That would probably mostly refer to myself.

tante, to random
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Easy: You always gotta ask who will get a life of leisure (Investors, other rich people) and whose work is needed for what (everyone else for manual, unfulfilling, alienated and isolated work for very little pay).

https://photog.social/@ewen/111895121506617343

jkanev,
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@tante
A while ago there was a suggestion to raise the retirement age depending on the salary -- people with well paid jobs should retire later than less well paid people:
https://fediscience.org/@jkanev/110037585684162317

whitedove, to Israel

Standing Together @omdimbeyachad statement composed by members of the Palestinian Leadership of the movement, in response to the BDS movement accusing them of "Serving Apartheid Israel’s Propaganda".

Source: https://twitter.com/omdimbeyachad/status/1752394061414109315

(The text in the pictures exceeds the character limit for image description, not sure what to do. any advice?)

@israel @palestine

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jkanev,
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@whitedove @omdimbeyachad @israel @palestine

Thank you for sharing.

I have a question: The last page refers to "our strategy and our theory of change". Where can I find more details about this?

fabrice13, to Cybersecurity Italian
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What is a good password manager that I can use seamlessly on laptop and phone? Are there any free?
LastPass restricts the devices you can use it on, if you don't pay for premium. And had quite a few security problems...

jkanev,
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@fabrice13 I made this a while ago:
http://pass-word.info/
and use it for all my passwords.

jkanev, to Meme
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Welcome! If you join our tautology club you will join our tautology club.

jkanev, to berlin
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Today all over Germany thousands of people protested against the rise of right wing politics and the far right AfD.

In Berlin an estimated 350,000 took part, the originally planned route had to be changed because of unexpected masses and people were redirected.
Public transport was on the verge of stalling.

A mass of people walking away from the observer towards Friedrichstadtpalast in Berlin, beneath a dark blue evening sky.
Hundreds of people walking towards the observer along Friedrichstraße in Berlin, on a chilly January evening.

ned, to edmonton
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I was just explaining this to somebody who was asking why anybody would be scared of 15-minute cities, which benefits everyone. It's not about how it benefits them, it's about the equal access to amenities to those who aren't like them, and use active transportation. They have been taught to believe that nobody more vulnerable than them can be helped without it coming out of their own privilege. That's why they are calling 15-minute cities a "war on cars".

jkanev,
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@econads @ned Interesting. Would that idea include public transport, or should everything be genuinely a walking distance away?

jkanev,
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@ned @argv_minus_one @dragonfrog @econads
Same here, actually.

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