@maegul@hachyderm.io
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maegul

@maegul@hachyderm.io

A little bit of computing and a little bit of neuroscience.

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maegul, to random
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Ah ... hello "implicit update to a significant upgrade that introduces non-trivial to fix breaking changes, without any warnings or notifications, requiring github issue trawling to just make sure you're not going insane"-ness my old friend.

Seriously. Us users can be shit to devs a lot, but I will not ever the brazenness with which updates can be just dumped on us like we deserve the punishment or something.

maegul, to bluesky
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People are actually on BlueSky

There's now a decent measurement of user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...

They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.

That's not nothing!

Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).

Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.

Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?

@fediverse

maegul,
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@anderseknert @fediverse

LOL ... yea plenty right.

maegul,
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@anderseknert @fediverse

Fair (kinda the simple explanation why I'm anti-threads-federation).

While I'm no BlueSky-stan, the idea/promise of the system is a hybrid, which I think is generally worthwhile (especially while things like twitter and threads dominate) but also interesting.

How hybridised it becomes (and can become) is the question though with big outstanding questions.

maegul,
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@Loukas @fediverse

Comparatively, it's definitely a lot more into shitposting vibes, for sure.

I think their biggest problem right now is they don't have good community self-organising features (nor masto, but the boost culture corrects for that IMO), so those who want more serious sub-cultures aren't getting much footing (and may never).

Feeds are interesting but not very fruitful IMO and hashtags are new, so it's a bit flat community-wise there, and many users are "wait & see" I suspect.

maegul,
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@Loukas @fediverse

Agreed (and said the same myself)!

As I've said it ... alternative social has run its course in this post-musk-twitter moment. Everyone's settled down where they ended up.

And yea, either more major disruption or some new killer features (rather than clones of big social) will be needed to shake things up. Neither seem particularly likely in the short term ... your EU-meta smackdown is probably the best bet??

thomasfuchs, to random
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Wish Apple would have spent the money wasted on the car and the VR stuff on a search engine that actually works

maegul,
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@thomasfuchs

The “preparing for new platform wars when your competitors are just going to cede established territory on their own that will be relatively easy to pick up” trap … easy to miss.

deadsuperhero, to random
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Okay, I admit it.

The Catch-Up Feed in is brilliant. Looking at screenshots, I was worried it was going to be super confusing…but, it’s honestly a lightning-fast way to catch up on everything.

Absolutely brilliant work.

maegul,
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@deadsuperhero

Has there ever been a better social media client feature?

Even if it’s only in the top whatever, I think it’s notable that it’s in a web client for the fediverse.

atomicpoet, to random
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Does anyone know of a Pleroma or Akkoma web client or front-end that has a deck UI?

I’m asking because it’s apparently what many people want.

maegul,
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@atomicpoet

There may be a large overlap between those interested in other platforms/self-hosting/akkoma and those who use deck UIs ... basically "power" (more likely obsessive/fussy) users.

maegul,
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@atomicpoet

Relatedly, something interesting that’s happened over on lemmy is the practice of running multiple front ends. Lemmy.world runs 4 apart from the default (5 total). I personally use 2.

And of course mastodon provides both single column and deck view.

As much as you like mangane and as good as it is, decoupling instances, platforms and clients/front ends (with plugins for compat) may just be where things are now.

Also, doesn’t akkoma support the mastodon interface?

maegul,
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@atomicpoet

FYI, for those / users interested ...

phanpy (eg, phanpy.social) seems to work well with akkomane / akkoma.

It provides deck/columns and picks up on the longer post length too.

No separate post editing view though ... but you can pop it out into a separate window.

No awareness of the local only visibility, which reveals how dire mastodon's influence over that feature has become IMO.

And the wonderful catch-up feature seems to work too!

maegul,
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@atomicpoet

tagging @phanpy too

maegul, to random
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Sorry, don't know who/what to tag (probably an official akkomane account on another server/platform is good best practice) ...

getting plenty of timeouts and "Server is Down" errors on akkomane.social

Started about 5 minutes ago, still happening now.

@christophertrottier

@atomicpoet

@reiver

maegul,
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@christophertrottier @atomicpoet @reiver

AFAICT, it's the "mentions" tab in notifications that seems to be causing issues. It never renders, and it feels like it caused by timeouts before. I'm not seeing anything in the browser console FWIW.

Everything else seems to be working fine.

maegul,
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@reiver @christophertrottier @atomicpoet

Yep, able to use dev tools 😃

Also, mentions tab is still not rendering.

From what I can tell, the API call works fine. The response JSON seems to be coming through fine (as in I can tell its the mentions notifications, boosts and likes etc). (though I don't know what types[]: mention is in the header).

It just doesn't seem to render??

carnage4life, to random
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Ex-Apple employees raised $230M in funding and spent 6 years delivering the universally panned Humane Pin.

A challenge for big tech people doing startups is that the skills needed to scale a growing or mature product are different from those needed to find PMF for a 0-1 product.

Solving the “is this useful enough to buy?” problem is different from being an iPhone or Mac leader.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/03/08/after-5-years-of-nothing-humane-startup-is-now-shifting-to-ai/amp/

maegul,
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@carnage4life

I mean when the pin was announced and was clearly an AI interface (using others' AIs AFAICT), my first thought was what had they been doing for 5 years before chatGPT was released?

Like, had their whole "genius" startup basically pivoted on the back of another company's product? Did they really think they could iPhone/Android the market from nothing because they'd worked at Apple?

Like for many, their launch video was "anyone else seeing this" weird to me.

maegul,
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@carnage4life

Relatedly, this is my current criticism of the design of the bluesky app (apart from the protocol etc) ... it seems like they're struggling, ATM, to make a social media platform interesting enough "now" and instead have been thinking, intentionally or not, at a twitter scale, not a smaller community scale.

christophertrottier, to random
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So far, three types of people have joined akkomane.social:

  1. People who wants to try something novel and new (awesome!)
  2. People who want to run their own Akkomane server and want to try it before they install (yay!)
  3. People who are on a server that de-federates Threads, know akkomane.social hasn't de-federated Threads, and want to follow people on Threads (fascinating!)

At a certain point, I'd love former firefish.social users to try out akkomane.social and see how they like it.

maegul,
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@steve @christophertrottier

Pretty sure it all died. Kainoa ran a personal instance for non official social too and that domain expired last I checked.

Presumably because they had more important things to do (and I hope they’re ok) they dropped the Fedi entirely.

Which is a lesson about indie projects, has certainly burnt me from trying new platforms, but also rather sad as there was a vibe on calckey (yes, before the rebrand), prob the best I’ve seen on the fedi by a long margin.

maegul,
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@steve @christophertrottier

Nah, AFAICT, it was all the lead dev going a bit off the rails (ie made questionable choices about managing the instance) and then walking.

The instance became dysfunctional. Like even for a volunteer run instance/project. People started walking away and then so did kainoa. AFAIK they haven’t surfaced in ages and life getting in the way was a major factor (where they were primarily an unemployed student most of the time calckey was developed).

paninid, to fediverse
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This. Is. Amazing. and is also exactly what I predicted would happen.

The majority of the #Fediverse will be deliciously tantalizing to Threads users.

And that nebulous #goodness is all it will be.

Tag @renewable_energy_club, cuz why not.

maegul,
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@paninid it will be interesting.

I’d personally bet the vast majority of threads users will stay where they are as everything is there already for them, and that if anything more masto users will just go to threads (to avoid instances and fedi-drama).

But maybe they’ll be tantalises by the other platforms and their interconnectivity? But then again, if threads is federating, what would they have to gain by moving?

(I may have misunderstood what you mean by tantalising)

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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Barack Obama (@barackobama) is on the Fediverse!

How cool is that?!

@fediversenews

maegul,
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@TheTomas @atomicpoet @fediversenews

What's interesting to me, as someone who's generally critical of the state of the fedi, is that I think atomicpoet is right, it is a part of the fediverse, but I think TheTomas's general point is also important, which is whether there should be a base threshold of inter-functionality to be considered a part of the fediverse.

Because merely receiving posts isn't far beyond RSS and the fedi, AFAICT, likes to (& should) think of itself as more than that too.

didgebaba, to random
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“Last year, I had a life-changing experience at 90 years old. I went to space, after decades of playing an iconic science-fiction character who was exploring the universe. I thought I would experience a deep connection with the immensity around us, a deep call for endless exploration.
"I was absolutely wrong. The strongest feeling, that dominated everything else by far, was the deepest grief that I had ever experienced.
"I understood, in the clearest possible way, that we were living on a tiny oasis of life, surrounded by an immensity of death. I didn’t see infinite possibilities of worlds to explore, adventures to have, or living creatures to connect with. I saw the deepest darkness I could have ever imagined, contrasting so starkly with the welcoming warmth of our nurturing home planet.
"This was an immensely powerful awakening for me. It filled me with sadness. I realized that we had spent decades, if not centuries, being obsessed with looking away, with looking outside. I did my share in popularizing the idea that space was the final frontier. But I had to get to space to understand that Earth is and will stay our only home. And that we have been ravaging it, relentlessly, making it uninhabitable."
-- William Shatner, actor

maegul,
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@trechnex @didgebaba

Yea ... these words, from that person, against the contrast with the environment in which they emerged are one of the best pop culture events I've ever seen I think.

So illuminating to see some wisdom being born as a sort of fragile sapling amongst mindlessly trampling beasts.

What's beautiful about Shatner's words, however much I'd read about the experience before, is he really conveyed the essence of the experience, that sudden deep blackness.

maegul, to bluesky
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Plugins for fediverse platforms.

Where is this up to? Is anyone thinking along these lines?

I've seen @db0 espouse such (eg https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/8581651) (sorry for the tag if annoying).

I've certainly thought of it myself ... because it's a pretty obvious idea for an ecosystem aiming for richness and sustainability.

Seems a perfect fit for reusable moderation tooling too, rather than each new platforms having that trouble.

This is essentially 's idea it seems.

@fediverse

maegul,
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@db0

It’s likely just good old federation issues.

maegul,
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@box464 @db0 @fediverse

I’d forgotten about them (firefish/Misskey plugins) actually (we probably saw each other over on firefish “back in the day”).

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