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We make a fast and secure open source Unix-like operating system for all of your computing devices, whether they be Raspberry Pis, EdgeRouters, ThinkPads, servers, or SPARCstations. Check the about page: https://www.NetBSD.org/about/

We pioneered cross-platform package management with #pkgsrc, anykernels, and TCP/IP in space.

Not cross-posted from the bird website ;)

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New development policy: code generated by a large language model or similar technology (e.g. ChatGPT, GitHub Copilot) is presumed to be tainted (i.e. of unclear copyright, not fitting NetBSD's licensing goals) and cannot be committed to NetBSD.

https://www.NetBSD.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html

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!!! netbsd 10 released !!!
✨ 🔥

https://netbsd.org/releases/formal-10/NetBSD-10.0.html

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It turns out we have been secretly maintaining X.Org over the years and nobody noticed.

(The number of not-yet-upstreamed patches in our xsrc tree is fairly huge, working on fixing that...)

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Work by Theodore Preduta to improve compat_linux(8) has been merged, bringing support for epoll & inotify (implemented using kqueue), waitid, statx, readahead, close_range.

As a result of this, it's become possible to run many more complex Linux binaries and proprietary applications.

Blog post coming soon!

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I usually try to keep you informed about interesting commits that are happening, but we're all clenching for NetBSD 10 right now...

Regardless, nat committed a new audio driver...

... for Motorola 68000 Macintoshes. enjoy!

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X.Org on NetBSD - the state of things

https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/x_org_on_netbsd_the

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In case you missed it, NetBSD 10 has reached Release Candidate stage.

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Fun fact: the 2009 model of Sidekick smartphone came with NetBSD as standard.

you don't have to wear eyeliner while using one, but it helps ✨

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We just got a couple of libc bugfixes into the 10 release candidate that were originally found in Android. It's always somehow surprising to me where our code ends up.

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The version of xz shipped in all stable (and unstable) versions of NetBSD predates any code changes by the author of the backdoor and is thus unaffected by the recent discoveries.

The version of xz shipped in pkgsrc, however, is affected - if you use xz from pkgsrc you need to take precautions. This is a non-default setting on NetBSD, and requires explicit opt-in.

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Did you know that xedit (the standard X11 text editor, included with NetBSD by default) includes syntax highlighting and automatic formatting for many file formats?

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NetBSD 10.0 timeline and branch status - martin@

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2023/08/20/msg044300.html

Thanks to everyone testing the beta

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dear santa, please bring me some new boots, a sword, some plushies, a sparcstation 20,

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I wonder, what is the cheapest hardware we can run on that isn't x86 or ARM-based?

I can find a nintendo wii on eBay for 20 euros, and ERLite-3s for 30 euros.

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NetBSD 9.4 (our equivalent of "oldstable") is out. https://netbsd.org/releases/formal-9/NetBSD-9.4.html

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Me every time I add a dependency on speex to something in pkgsrc https://thisisanexampleofspeex.uk/

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As a final goodbyte to the netbsd-8 branch, the release engineering team have put out one final release containing all the changes ever made to the branch. https://www.NetBSD.org/releases/formal-8/NetBSD-8.3.html

NetBSD 8.0 is a few months shy of being 6 years old.

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Malte Dehling has contributed a ZFS verification method for cgdconfig(8).

This allows CGD encrypted ZFS partitions to be validated without putting a redundant GPT table inside them.

https://freshbsd.org/netbsd/src/commit/l8DqFN0POdK6MJ9F

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jmcneill has committed his port of NetBSD to the Nintendo Wii.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-MShCcFm_w

onepict, (edited ) to random
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Seeing some rather recognisable attitudes in arguments against NetBSDs stance against AI generated code.

How do you know, how would you stop it. You can't stop us.

Like aren't we meant to be better than that?

Disturbingly similar attitude to when we ask folks to not scrape folks posts on the fediverse without asking.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Plus there are some very real licence considerations which will affect copyright (and copyleft).

https://blog.brettsheffield.com/all-your-base-are-belong-to-llm

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@onepict i've probably said this 100+ times now - this policy is for committers (foundation members) only, who've all already signed contracts with a clause about tainted code.

the policy is for base only, which has strict rules about copyright for Reasons™0. We are not opting out of running any third-party code that might have used an auto-completion tool. Since the BSD license requires strict attribution, our code in base can't be used to train LLMs either.

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we are now 10.0 RC2. changes from the last release candidate include postfix 3.8.4 (fixes SMTP smuggling vulnerability), new raspberry pi firmware, fixed boot for the "netwinder" port, NFS compliance fixes, and a bunch of little stability fixes.

failing complete crisis (like another postfix bug), this should be the last release candidate.

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Ok, I talked a little bit about RISC-V, now for a very different kind of cutting edge stuff...

Alain Runa just submitted a driver to NetBSD/amiga for the MNT ZZ9000 Zorro board -- a new graphics card you can buy for your 30 year old Amiga computer (which is, presumably, running the latest version of NetBSD) https://mntre.com/media/ZZ9000_info_md/2019-08-09-ZZ9000-resources.html

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some news!

  • NetBSD 10 is waiting for OpenSSL 3. This will likely be the last breaking change we make to the BETA, and it's necessary so we can support 10 in the long term.

  • For accessibility reasons, a couple of programs in base gained support for the informal no-color.org standard.

  • NetBSD make (known as "bmake" elsewhere, or just "make" on FreeBSD) performance improvements! People who spend too much time compiling operating systems ( us 🤔 ) will be pleased.

ParadeGrotesque, to random
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So, uh... In the Linux ecosystem, systemd is now getting the equivalent of sudo, called 'run0' if I got everything correctly.

Somewhere out there 'Jia Tan' is rubbing his hands, because he now has his next target.

Seriously, though, systemd programmers: have you learned NOTHING?

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