silsinn9821

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youronlyone, to linguistics
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It's easier to use Hangeul and Kana to write pronunciations of Filipino words, than to use Filipino diacritical marks.

  1. Last we were taught about Filipino diacritical marks was in Grade 4 or 5 (early 90s). I don't know why, but after that diacritical marks were totally forgotten.

  2. Tracking it down, IIRC, it was late 90s / early 00s when it was officially removed by the KWF.

  3. Sometime 2010, the KWF brought diacritical marks back, though limited.

  4. In 2014 (or was it 2016?) the KWF introduced a new diacritical mark, the Filipino schwa. It didn't exist before. There are only like 4 Philippine languages with a schwa vowel. They added it in Filipino so words from those Philippine languages can be integrated into the Filipino language.

Here's my problem, no matter how many times I read the KWF document on Filipino diacritical marks, I can't get my head around it. 🤪 I understood it differently, or I remembered them incorrectly. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Or! I've been pronouncing a lot of words wrongly! 🤦🏽‍♂️

However, when I use Hangeul and Kana, I don't have to worry about diacritical marks. Both scripts have stable pronunciations, not like Latin characters where we have to use diacritical marks.

The only catch, the reader should be able to read Hangeul or Kana scripts, which most don't. 🤔 So, back to trying to get a grasp of Filipino diacritical marks. 🤯


Am I right that the Filipino diacritical marks represent the sound?

Examples:

  • e = neutral = abrupt soft stop?
  • è = high to low = abrupt hard stop? (paiwa?)
  • é = low to high = malumay? (malumanay?)
  • ê = low to high to low = ??
  • ë = the new Filipino schwa (no idea, since I don't speak the few Philippine languages where a Filipino schwa is needed).

Any experts out there?

(In the revived diacritical marks, we no longer use ē. IIRC, it used to represent a long vowel sound.)

@pilipinas @philippines @pinoy

silsinn9821,

@youronlyone So, in other words, they made it so even old computers who can do #ISO-8859-1 / #Windows-1252 but not #Unicode can still type such words with diacritics via Alt+NumKey combinations. But ē only exists in Unicode (maybe it first showed up on #Windows-1257 but that was only used by Baltic languages), so it can't be typed via Alt+NumKey codes (& not everyone knows that CharMap is a thing).
@pilipinas @philippines @pinoy

liaizon, to random
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

Threads had https://fedibird.com on its block list and @noellabo reached out to them and they removed it from from the block list:
https://www.threads.net/

Just interesting to see how this sort of thing plays out.

They also responded with a link to Threads instance blocking policy which is up here: https://help.instagram.com/914046486923176/

silsinn9821,

@liaizon Is there any public page listing all instances blocked by ?

silsinn9821, to threads

user with dotted username (an impossibility in vanilla ) spotted in the wild federating with a instance (namely, Voskey)! So, does this mean Misskey can handle dotted usernames & thus can further do what ?

silsinn9821,

By the way, that account belongs to a small Japanese shop selling online, in case anyone here wishes to buy from them:
@kashi.usuiro@threads.net
(Sadly, it seems you cannot yet directly @ them from as the dot immediately breaks the ping for being outside the instance-domain-name part, so I had to fake the ping here by making it a to their URL.)

silsinn9821,

So, this (the dotted usernames that can federate with other instances but can't yet be @ pinged from such instances) is a clear example of being exercised by upon the .
@youronlyone Your thoughts on this again, as we previously discussed it on ?

silsinn9821,

@JsonCulverhouse Except on my end, you ended up pinging a non-existent user from your own local instance (followed by the dot, the usuiro, & the Threads domain name):
@kashi

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