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vex, 1 month ago

@Parasite it's because Intelligence as a concept isn't real. It's a rebranding of power. This outcome has been inevitable from when atheists decided intellectual superiority separated theists from atheists. All superiority leads to fascism.

vex, 1 month ago

@livinghell @Parasite never said power=superiority. People who identify as their power (viewing those without as lesser) = superiority.

vex, 1 month ago

@livinghell @Parasite power as identity is a relationship to power, not power itself. One's relationship to power determines how they use & experience it. A person believing they are their power means they'll protect it as through it were their life.

vex, 1 month ago

@livinghell @Parasite yes, we're saying the same stuff now so IDK what the disconnect was in the communication.

vex, 1 month ago

@livinghell @Parasite I don't think we disagree. You're talking about the external causes, & I'm talking about the internal. People who believe superiority myths believe in structures supporting & supported by those myths, from small structures (like their identity) to larger ones (like the state, patriarchy, racism, etc). & following the logic of superiority myths to their logical conclusion always leads to fascism.

It's always different amounts of support on an individual level, but crowdsourcing participation is the only way a population can handle the emotional toll of fascism without access to the hoarded power.

vex, 2 months ago

@aetataureate condolences

vex, 2 months ago

@aetataureate all the pieces of a good show are there, but the script reads like they fed ChatGPT a bullet point summary. They took the point of the show out & removed all the character growth. I'm being very vague because I don't wanna spoil but you'll recognize what I mean by episode 4 lol it's the season 8 GOT of the series so far 🤭

vex, 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

@HeavenlyPossum pretty sure you're linking to an Israeli propaganda bot. Nobody in touch with their humanity sees starvation as "defense".

So for this specific post I'd say the answer to your question is "yes, they are that desperate to hold onto their reputation, just as they are equally desperate to not lose any power whatever".

vex, 2 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum it's the perspective of power again. Since they identify with their power, they physically feel when it's threatened & react like cowards accordingly. & Power is only upheld by the flow of instability → desperation → abuse → hierarchy → imperialism. That's why the playbooks are all the same.

vex, 3 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum beliefs set up "defaults" to behavior. IMO the reason we don't see clear correlations between the categories you listed are because colonial languages are meant to mislead. Someone can be a Christian even if they practice the opposite. IMO this demonstrates a language issue rather than demonstrating how belief→behavior pathways work.

When it say a "language issue", I mean the boundaries of words not matching up to the boundaries of the concepts they refer to.

vex, 3 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum I disagree that it's a "language in general" issue. Language contains embedded information, & colonial languages embed hierarchy with the expressed purpose of reinforcing itself. But there's a limit to the amount of embedded information that can be stored, & so what gets removed is meaning itself. We can see this process play out when we see words get co-opted by power; usually to mean the opposite.

If instead of hierarchical logic, language had reciprocal relationship logic embedded, we wouldn't see the same dynamic play out.

vex, 3 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum ok so you know how school is whitewashed such that history portrays what exists as good? Take that concept & apply it to everything, & you end up with a language whose logic supports power better than it describes reality. Remove the language to isolate this concept, & you get what I call the perspective of power (Pops = perspective of power symbol).

Applying Pops to the concepts reveals its underlying mechanisms. Here are some examples (left = concepts, right = transformation after applying Pops):
• capacity × trust → intellect (moralized)
• respect → deference/obedience
• responsibility → ownership
• access → "consent"
• gratitude → loyalty

Pops replaces reciprocation with hierarchy in such a way that it makes hierarchy appear to be what holds things together (instead of what causes collapse). Someone who believes "might makes right" believes in Pops wholeheartedly.

I can elaborate if that didn't clarify.

vex, 3 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum what I'm trying to say is that beliefs can distort perceptions to the point that the predictable appears unpredictable.

You made a claim I interpreted as being that beliefs are essentially a layer of delusion applied to justifications, & that the notion that beliefs precede behavior is incorrect.

I'm claiming instead that the process of a layer of delusion (Pops is a delusion) being applied to beliefs causes one to be mistaken in what those beliefs are to begin with.

So basically I'm saying that beliefs do precede behavior, but interpreting said beliefs via Pops causes an individual to incorrectly perceive them, resulting in the conclusion being a justification instead of a belief.

vex, 3 months ago

@HeavenlyPossum I wasn't claiming those as delusions, only Pops. But it's ok, I've still got work to do formalizing my own beliefs before I can communicate them to others easily. This language makes it so hard though 😭

vex, 3 months ago

@LeftistLawyer @JensHannemann the lack of creativity comes from the perspective of power I'd mentioned to you a while back. The perspective of power only has one narrative: might makes right. Everything else needs to prove its power before it can be right, which is the exact opposite of the creative process.

To top it off, when taking the perspective of power, one's emotions are reprogrammed to have their survival response protect their power over their happiness. This is the emotional core they make art from: that which worships power as they do, prioritizing it over life itself.

vex, 3 months ago

@LeftistLawyer You can use the shell of an opened pistachio to open others, literally just by twisting it in the opening, &or letter-opener style. Changed my life.

vex, 3 months ago

@sidereal I've noticed most categories exist not to categorize the things they refer to, but instead to categorize the humans who consume them in a way that benefits power.

My conspiracy theory about YA books is that they're only available as the hero's journey archetype, so as to warp imaginations & have people put themselves on a pedestal that makes them the exception for all the shitty beliefs that archetype inserts in a hierarchical society.

vex, 3 months ago

@KevinCarson1 if someone is seeking a red brown alliance, they're lying about being red. No one's able to stomach aligning with fascism without agreeing with it themselves.

vex, 4 months ago

@antifaintl it's not history repeating, but a playbook being played.

vex, 4 months ago

@LeftistLawyer @Uair vehemently disagree with that article. Sympathy comes from a desire to return to peace at all costs. Empathy comes from having a definition of self that includes other people & their experiences. Using "tribalism" to try & moralize the differences while discounting how perspectives of power can warp the emotions is misleading & simply an incorrect analysis.

Love can also be used as an excuse to do wrong, when one's concept of it is corrupted by the perspective of power. By the logic in the article love is bad too.

The perspective of power is literally the corrupting force in this world. It distorts emotions to motivate prioritizing power over all else. Distorted emotions themselves aren't the root problem; they're a symptom of the perspective of power.

vex, 4 months ago

@MusiqueNow @Sherifazuhur @israel @palestine you don't have to be far-right to have the property of power we're seeing at play here: the self-preservation of power itself. People who believe in their power will always side with those who abuse it over those who dismantle it, especially when how it works is made clear to all.

Instability is the soil for desperation.

Desperation is the soil for abuse.

Abuse is the soil for hierarchy.

Hierarchy is the soil for imperialism.

The US has always been an empire. Presidents have always been like this. Nobody uses a PR team to spread the truth.

vex, 5 months ago

@glennf I would change "can't identify" to "intentionally obfuscates". They know what they're doing.

vex, 5 months ago

@samlitzinger @anubis2814 if there's only one choice by definition it's not a democracy 😂

Biden facilitated a literal genocide with our tax dollars. For those left of liberal, he's a non-starter. He's not gonna win, so if y'all want Trump to lose pick a different candidate.

vex, 6 months ago

@augieray don't just block without reporting them for misinformation/propaganda!

vex, 6 months ago

@LouisIngenthron @renwillis Zionists use Jewish suffering as a shield. They want Jews and Arabs fighting, & using the suffering of Jews to justify genocide will of course desensitize people to their suffering & thus increase antisemitism.

Judaism ≠ Zionism, regardless of what any Zionist says. A lot of Jews did receive a Zionist "education", is why it might seem otherwise. But Zionism is the category that explicitly refers to those who are pro-genocide.