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How can we smooth out the migration and help promote kbin/lemmy to subreddits and redditors?

I think the biggest thing we need to figure out is how to make it sound easier than people say it is. People get too hung up on the technicalities of how the fediverse works, and they never try it out and see that it isn't as confusing as it sounds. If we could write up a simple blurb to help promote kbin to subreddit moderators...

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Your @titaniumfish account is unique to kbin, you can't directly use it elsewhere, so if kbin goes down, you're SOL, BUT, you can always open those other sites up directly and anonymously navigate around.

The federation will allow you to view other federated content through kbin, but, it wouldn't be directly useable without kbin.

WIth Mastadon, you can move your account (well, it's closer to linking it to another one ... I think), but I believe it needs the original server to be online, so, I assume it'll be possible here as well, to at least the same degree, at some point.

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You can also click the hamburger button on the mobile webpage and it'll show the sidebar contents, so top of the screen and bottom, essentially.

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Don't leave us hanging!

What's the magazine name?

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Understood, wasn't trying to get you to doxx your sub or anything, just figured your post was a missed opportunity to plug your magazine, but that makes sense you need too get your ducks in a row first.

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That's findable by search now! Since Ernest removed CloudFlare, Federation is getting a lot more interesting!

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They are different, but share an underlying connection with the Fediverse, so you can see/interact with stuff from Lemmy/Mastadon/etc...

@Ernest is also actively trying to make sure KBin is as compatible with possible with the Fediverse projects

Dear pre-migration Keebinetters, how can we NOT ruin kbin for you?

As a former redditor I am glad to have found a new "home" and I hope I'm not intruding. Nevertheless, we are all a huge migration that is bound to change how kbin works and we're bound to piss off some pre-migration Keebinetters. The fact you guys were here before and not in reddit makes evident you don't want this to become a...

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My thoughts on this is that things shouldn't be changed to conform with how Reddit did things.

I saw people saying that default settings need to be changed because that's what Reddit people would expect by default and it's like .... How about no?

I'm part of the migration (Saturday), but I don't want this to become Digg3.0! I want it to be better and its own thing.

Now, those settings I was talking about (basically who/what you follow is shown to others by default), I fully think those settings should be changed by default, but not because that's how reddit did it, but because it's a good idea (imho).

We've also got to keep in mind that KBin is basically a one man operation right now and not a company with 2000 people and expectations need to go through that filter first. This site is fucking amazing with that in mind and I think if you just look at it as Reddit 2.0 it's easy to forget the achievements that Ernest has made.

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Didn't they do that intentionally to be compatible with Lotus 123?

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Thanks for backing me up :-)

A link from MS as well, backing us up :-)

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One of the eventual goals of kbin is to be compatible with the rest of the fediverse and to "just work" with the rest of it. By way of comparison, Lemmy is basically just a federated Reddit, so, this is actually one of the reasons I chose to go with kbin.

From a practical standpoint, it'll likely be a while before that becomes a reality, but I like that as a goal.

I'd say see if you can search for the instance in the search (once we're 100% federated) and if it doesn't work and it's something you want to participate in, unfortunately, you'll need to go there directly.

Also - Your kbin.social account can only log into kbin.social, you can't use it to log into any other sites (this would include other kbin sites, lemmy sites, mastodon sites, etc...), what you can do is see content from those sites by subscribing to them or on the front page (non-subscribed)

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For me, you saying "hey, can I use slurs over there yet? Specifically, ___" is a bit like the dudebros that yell out "Equal rights, equal fights!" as they pretend to punch a woman ... like ... why the fuck did your mind go there immediately ... it's a bit disconcerting.

Had you said something like "Do they still have the hardcoded blocked words, still? I used to laugh whenever someone from England tried to mention cigarettes and it gets [REMOVED]! Haven't seen that in a while though" I don't think you'd have gotten the downvotes.

Just my opinion, others may have had different reasons to dislike your comment.

ETA: Your other comment wasn't showing before. You identify as the word and want to be able to use it and not have it be labeled as hate speech when it's against yourself ... So ... I'll update my "had you said" to "Hey, are they still redacting fag over there? We're trying to take that word back into the community (similar to how queer has largely been taken back) and it's real fucking hard when it's [REMOVED]!" instead.

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Female rats are way less likely to do that, ime though, they're also way less "chill" and are bundles of energy, so it's a bit of a trade-off

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From what I've seen: Linus didn't ever typically rip into first time contributors, it was usually always the people that he either expected better of or people that just kept submitting crap after crap.

Still sucks to be on the receiving end of it though.

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Yeah, but if people were intentionally being trolls, it stands to reason that they'll hop on the next available open registration site and begin their shenanigans there, getting us banned too.

From what I've seen, for the most part the KBin magazines have been great, but we've definitely got a few people that I've seen that might intentionally start harassing trans people for instance and if they make lives difficult for the beehaw mods, we might get banned too just by association.

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From my perspective, I've basically left Reddit. Hypothetically, I 100% agree with you, but from a practical standpoint, I don't really care what happens over there.

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I love Bookstack!

The diagram tool can be used to markup anything. Besides the obvious, I've also put pictures as the background and then marked up those to diagram out some work I was doing around the house.

I hope the dev makes his way over here, he was very active on Reddit.

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I went the batshit crazy route and just set up an AD server for home.

Let's me gain some knowledge for work and ensure that every PC I configure at home 'just works' and if I've got to make changes to get something to actually fucking work, I only have to do it once.

A few of my linux servers auth through it too, which is pretty convenient, honestly.

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Seems to have worked if all you posted was "Test post"

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KBin is the only site that knows your KBin password, so you won't be able to use it directly to log in elsewhere.

Easiest would be to anonymously visit the other sites and then do a search and subscribe on KBin for the subs you like to bring them into your feed.

I did that to bring my Mastadon stuff in to see if I can use KBin as a pane of glass to see everything or I'm better off just keeping them separate (juries still out, probably need to wait until this server stops getting slammed).

ETA: if someone knows a better way, please correct me! I would love to learn an easier way. So far, I think it's just manual checking and people making lists that they share.

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I think I read that there is a bug with one of the apps for Lemmy (starts with a J, IIRC) that's causing that.

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Yeah, that's a bit weird .... kind of cool too, like we're all just part of a big party with no initial way to divide without specifically looking. With that said, the possibilities of duplicates are high and the opportunity for fuckery is even higher, lol

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Yeah, the one I joined is 100% clean of that bullshit because they made it very clear in the description that the BS would not be tolerated and they apparently either enforce it accordingly or those folks just never joined because of it.

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