North Texas man sues Cinemark claiming 24-ounce beer cups can't hold 24 ounces

A North Texas man has filed a class action lawsuit against Cinemark, claiming the movie theater chain is lying to customers about the size of its drinks.

Shane Waldrop claims that Cinemark’s 24 ounce cups can only hold 22 ounces of liquid, according to the lawsuit filed in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas.

Bell,

Waldrop took the empty container home and measured how much it could hold, discovering it only held 22 ounces.

I love this guy, totally something I would do

credo,

I like the thought of him picking up the cup at the counter, weighing it in his hand for just a moment, and saying to the kid young adult on the other side, “This feels a little light.”

Edit:I just remembered you had to be 18 to sell beer in Texas.

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

“I think it’s a half-gram heavy on the back end.”

Name that movie.

credo,

Ooh, John Wick or Resvoir Dogs. Now let me google it.

Lol, way off. Been a while on that one.

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Haha oh man, it’s one of my favorites. But you gotta watch the director’s cut.

SlopppyEngineer,

Pitch Black

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry false but close!

SlopppyEngineer,

Yeah, Chronicles of Riddick. The sequel to Pitch Black. I misremembered.

FilterItOut,

Wait, is it still a sequel if the other movie is a prequel?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Shame on you, mixing up Vin Diesel films.

He’s the Humphrey Bogart of our era.

Everythingispenguins,

Let’s face it Casablanca and XXX are really just the same movie.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Chronicles of Riddick. Keep what you kill. Which is weird because he was given that knife and not the body of the guy he stabbed in the head with it.

kent_eh,

Edit:I just remembered you had to be 18 to sell beer in Texas.

But you have to be 21 to drink it?

I’m sure nobody who is pouring draft at 18 would ever think to sample their wares… for quality control, of course.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

On the one hand, lolz. Classic move theater scam. Love to spend $15 on stale popcorn that’s 30% salt and then another $20 on a drink, after walking in with an $8 movie ticket to see 30 minutes of ads.

On the other hand, holy fuck dude. Maybe slightly less than half a pitcher of beer is more than enough?

BreakDecks,

Maybe slightly less than half a pitcher of beer is more than enough?

If I pay for half a pitcher of beer, and you give me less than half a pitcher of beer, you still owe me more beer.

Also, if you’re upset about how movie theaters are a scam, why are you defending this scammy behavior? No need to be self-righteous about alcohol consumption, Cinemark is defrauding customers by selling 24oz beers that aren’t 24oz. You can drink however little beer as you want, but you should still want honesty from the people selling it to you.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Also, if you’re upset about how movie theaters are a scam, why are you defending this scammy behavior?

Am I defending their behavior? I avoid theaters precisely because they’re such awful places to be.

No need to be self-righteous about alcohol consumption

24oz is a lot of beer. I just have no idea why theaters are even offering that much, except for the fact that a small sized anything at a theater is minimum 12oz and 10x the price you’d get it at a grocery store. Its just more of the scam inherent in the business model.

BreakDecks,

Why do you keep changing the subject to your opinion on alcohol consumption as if it were relevant to the conversation? If I pay for a set quantity of anything, and I get less than I paid for, I was cheated, your self-righteousness notwithstanding.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you keep changing the subject to your opinion

“Beer makes you piss” is hardly an opinion. Alcohol is a diuretic.

If I pay for a set quantity of anything, and I get less than I paid for, I was cheated

If you think you’re getting cheated on volume, wait till you find out how badly they watered that beer down.

your self-righteousness

Is it self-righteous to outwit The Man simply watching movies at home, by pirating them, as God intended?

You can down a full quart of liquor for less than one of those 24oz natty lites, while you’re at it.

BreakDecks,

It looks like you’re trying to post your way past a bad take.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/9735c6a3-52b1-4bf7-b0dd-525dea909cdf.png

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
AngryCommieKender,

Might be most in terms of land area and distribution. It’s definitely not the most in terms of the number of patrons. Both coasts allow beer sales in movie theaters, at least CA, NY, and FL all do, and clearly TX does. That’s 1/3-1/4 of the country (roughly 100 million people) just in those four states.

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

It only became legal in New York in 2022. Perhaps today most people in the US do live in states where it is legal, but that doesn’t mean they live near a theater that actually does it. This article from a year ago says the largest chain, AMC, has a bar in the lobby of 300 (of their 593 in the US, according to wikipedia) locations but that some of them don’t let you bring a beer into the theater. The second-largest chain, Regal Cinemas, was only serving alcohol in 80 of their 511 locations as of last year.

CptEnder,

Alamo Drafthouse is the way

DBT,

This is common at theaters that serve food inside the theater. It’s a restaurant movie theater.

DAMunzy,

Foot long subs have a deal for you!

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine getting 10" through one of those cardboard-tasting subway sandwiches and being sad there isn’t more to eat.

DAMunzy,

time to sue!

…for selling fake food. ;)

loudWaterEnjoyer,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

North Texas man sues Cinemark claiming 24-ounce beer cups can’t hold 24 ounces

Published April 19, 2024 2:56pm CDT

A North Texas man has filed a class action lawsuit against Cinemark, claiming the movie theater chain is lying to customers about the size of its drinks.

Shane Waldrop claims that Cinemark’s 24 ounce cups can only hold 22 ounces of liquid, according to the lawsuit filed in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/ea83eb17-5b72-4ec7-8ecb-64dd041f0b04.jpeg

On Feb. 14, Waldrop went to the Cinemark in Grapevine and purchased the 20 ounce and 24 ounce draft beer.

He noticed the 24 ounce cup did not appear to be big enough to hold 4 more ounces of liquid.

Waldrop took the empty container home and measured how much it could hold, discovering it only held 22 ounces.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/e32b9749-5454-4afa-a602-baabefa51bf9.pngThe cup was marked as a 24 oz cup.

Waldrop and his legal team says the movie theater chain is taking part in “deceptive” and “otherwise improper” business practices that violate state and federal laws about misbranding.

“This is especially misleading because the 24 oz drink should provide a deal for consumers over the 20 oz drink’s price: $0.37 per ounce vs. $0.39 per ounce. But due to the actual volume of 22 oz available in the ‘24 oz’ drink, the price is $0.40 per ounce making the larger drink more expensive per ounce, which is not a deal at all,” reads the lawsuit.

The lawsuit says Waldrop brought the suit for himself and “all other persons nationwide.”

He is seeking a jury trial.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting! Is it only me or EU users or maybe everyone who’s been blocked from their site?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/989aa946-d8f9-444b-a222-b4976b1bcadb.jpeg

festus, (edited )

I’m not in the EU but I got captchaed too.

RichieRich,

Yeah, exactly, they don’t want EU citizens lurking at there websites. You should use a VPN.

TankovayaDiviziya,

That page also appears even when using VPN.

Cqrd,

That’s probably just because they didn’t want to bother becoming GDPR compliant and instead blocked everyone that would have that requirement. Curious if they did anything for California though, since they have similar legislation.

DoomBot5,

I doesn’t operate in Europe, so they don’t care to be GDPR compliant. They do operate in California, so they need to support those laws. It’s still not worth it to look at changing their policy towards GDPR even if they’re complaint.

redlue,

I love cases like this.

Weigh your food. Do not trust corporations to give you a fair deal.

If you really wanna be smart, go to chipotle and weigh their meat. It should be 4oz (1/4lb), but it’s never anywhere close.

Everythingispenguins,

You do know that is pree cooked weight right? The cooking process evaporates water and renders fat. This makes cooked weight less than advertised weight.

redlue,

No, it’s not pre-cooked weight.

Chipotle is supposed to give 4oz of meat post-cooked.

It’s why McDonald’s has crosses specifying it’s pre-cooked weight and Chipotle does not.

Everythingispenguins,

Places like Chipotle have armies of lawyers just to make sure keyboard warriors don’t get the drop on them .

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/89c5a806-fc66-4cf5-bce2-f96e3d029040.png

redlue,

Where does it say meat serving sizes are based on uncooked weight?

“Serving sizes are approximations only based on how menu items are usually prepared” means what it’s like as it reaches the customer. If it said “unprepared”, then that would be pre-cooked weight.

Meanwhile here is Mcdonald’s page for the Quarter Pounder: mcdonalds.com/…/quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/bdd8273f-d0b7-40f9-9981-32e5c0adfb95.png

Everythingispenguins,

Wow did you not read the “Serving size is approximate” part??? That means that it doesn’t have to be exactly 4oz every time which was your original complaint.

redlue,

I was curious if you would mention that but thought better of you.

Sure, it doesn’t have to be exactly 4oz. But it’s usually not even close.

Here’s your comment:

You do know that is pree cooked weight right? The cooking process evaporates water and renders fat. This makes cooked weight less than advertised weight.

Now you’re moving the goalposts and saying it’s “approximate.”

Why can’t you people ever admit when you’re wrong? Lol.

Everythingispenguins,

Wait are you downvoting and complaining about this

Why can’t you people ever admit when you’re wrong? Lol.

When you straight up did that in you last post, completely ignoring that you were wrong.

Dude if you are this upset about Chipotle you need to get out more.

Oh and by the way I guarantee that it is oz volume not oz weight. I worked in kitchens when I was younger. They have a 4oz volume scope and just scoop some in the meal. If you are trying to get a 4oz weight it will never be close.

Maybe just hang that keyboard up for the day and take a walk

redlue,

Alright, I see you’re just going to flail and argue no matter what.

Goodbye.

Everythingispenguins,

👋

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

redlue,

Might wanna brush up on your reading comprehension while you’re at it.

londos,

reddit.com/…/here_are_the_proper_portioning_sizes…

Sorry to post a link to the old place. I don’t care about Chipotle but this just seemed like something easily googleable. Does this not seem to show that it’s by weight, after cooking?

Katana314,

He’s right though. Approximations are still derived from averages and data, they can’t just be routinely completely wrong.

If I have 10,000 steaks that were 15oz before cooking, and generally weigh 11oz after cooking, with maybe 100 outliers that are still 14oz, then I can’t say they weigh “approximately 14oz”, just as I can’t say they weigh “approximately 8 tons”.

Similarly, cereal is often “sold by weight, not volume” to ensure consumers aren’t suing about cereal boxes that are half full. There’s actually a logical explanation behind the missing quantity.

Sam_Bass,

Cooking reduces moisture and reducing weight. Gotta weigh the raw for accuracy

redlue,

No, it’s not pre-cooked weight.

Chipotle is supposed to give 4oz of meat post-cooked.

It’s why McDonald’s has crosses specifying it’s pre-cooked weight and Chipotle does not.

notannpc,

Fuck em up Shane!

Deello,

I thought they just pour a bottle/can in a cup and call it a day. That’s what happened when I bought a buzzball for my wife last week. We weren’t expecting a full cup of buzzball but we weren’t complaining because we still got a full drink. They literally opened and poured it in front of us and tossed the empty container. I don’t remember seeing anything on tap but that could just be my local Cinemark.

Track_Shovel,

Not all heroes wear capes

chookity,
@chookity@kbin.run avatar

Florida man has some competition

transmatrix,

Love how this guy is admitting to drinking alcohol in the theater.

DAMunzy,

I need to start sneaking beers into my AMC.

breetai,

How weird since they sold it to him. Where do you think they want him to drink it?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s like most movie theaters, I assume they wanted him to spill it on the floor.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

?
Pretty normal to drink in the theater when they sell alcohol.
Maybe you should go sit in the corner and reread the article.

ringwraithfish,

I like to imagine op thinks the guy is sneaking in alcohol and buying an empty cup from the theater. The Texas man is pissed because he doesn’t know what to do with the remaining 2 oz after he planned on their cup holding 24oz.

PappyWappy,

Lol what?

hydrashok,

My theater has a full bar and allows you to drink whilst watching a movie. Pretty normal these days around here.

catloaf,

Next thing you know, people will be openly eating popcorn too!

speck,

Texan civility would never stoop to such levels

Potatos_are_not_friends,

These are the lawsuits that I want to know more about!

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

Sadly businesses straight up lying about alcohol servings is very normal.

streetfestival,
@streetfestival@lemmy.ca avatar

Shrinkflation noobs. Never specify the size of a (pseudo-)prepared product. It’s better to use abstract terms like large, extra large, and jumbo that can be shrunk down in size without increasing legal liability down whenever you wish to juice your profits a bit (/s)

Furedadmins,

Alcohol is usually held to stricter portion control than other foodstuffs since it’s more tightly regulated.

Rubanski,

Like the mega pint

Jimmycakes,

Thirst buster

DAMunzy,

Kid sized soda. Parks and Rec

catloaf,

The cup itself is labeled 24oz, but it sounds like it can’t even fit that much liquid when filled.

9488fcea02a9,

I canada, it’s illegal to call something a pint if it’s not 20oz/568mL

But i havent seen a real pint glass at any bar for many years a nobody calls out this behaviour or enforces the rules.

brianorca,

I thought a pint was 16 oz. Quart is 32oz and gallon 128 oz.

Glimpythegoblin,

It is in the us. Imperial gallons are bigger than us gallons for some reason.

model_tar_gz,

Because a unified, standard, and consistent International System of units is BOOOORRRIINNNGGG

AlecSadler,

In the US a pint is 16oz, unless you go to McMenamins in which case it’s 14oz.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

This is capitalism gone too far!!

mojo_raisin,

This is what the second amendment is for!

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Scaring them with bear arms?

assassin_aragorn,

Only if they’re still attached to the bear

whodatdair,

Raaaar

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

Scaring them with bear arms?

Beer arms.

betheydocrime,

No, the right to bare arms. Like, you can wear a tank top if you wanna

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You’ll be cold in the movie theater.

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