inquiline,
@inquiline@union.place avatar

Do I have this straight... the US is air-dropping aid bc a country won't stop bombing long enough to let the US in to offer humanitarian aid on the ground, but the US supplied the weapons to the country that won't stop bombing

stacey_campbell,
@stacey_campbell@aus.social avatar

@inquiline 'Aid to Israel is now almost exclusively military assistance that can be used only to buy American weaponry. In reality, it’s not so much aid to Israel as it is a backdoor subsidy to American military contractors, which is one reason some Israelis are cool to it.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/22/opinion/israel-military-aid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Z00.1_FV.w8x0vfJ1e5jW&smid=url-share

stacey_campbell,
@stacey_campbell@aus.social avatar

@inquiline So, it's a convoluted, wasteful and cruel jobs program.

moondog548,
@moondog548@nerdculture.de avatar

@stacey_campbell @inquiline

THIS. The good old Military Industrial Complex.

"Aid" of this sort to many nations has always been taxpayer handouts to arms manufacturers.

It's a grift with the side-effect of exploding people.

morecowbell,
@morecowbell@mastodon.social avatar

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  • pete,

    @morecowbell @stacey_campbell @inquiline

    Just to note, the US also uses methods.

    paninid,
    @paninid@mastodon.world avatar

    @morecowbell @stacey_campbell @inquiline

    How many countries learned how to effectively fash from the U.S.?

    ukuku,
    @ukuku@mstdn.social avatar

    @inquiline but think about all the shareholder value that we’ve created

    inquiline,
    @inquiline@union.place avatar

    "On Friday, the International Rescue Committee said airdrops “do not and cannot substitute for humanitarian access.” The group urged Israel to reopen border crossings in northern and let aid flow in. Airdrops “distract time and effort from proven solutions to help at scale,” the committee said, adding that more than half million people in Gaza “are facing famine conditions.”" -NYT

    Eka_FOOF_A,
    @Eka_FOOF_A@spacey.space avatar

    @inquiline
    If they got to Berlin Airlift flight levels, maybe. I don't see that happening. It would take most Western military transports to do that.

    reinhilde,

    @inquiline thee aid is woefully insufficient, apparently deliberately

    BruceMirken,
    @BruceMirken@mas.to avatar

    @inquiline It's almost like we're doing it wrong.

    impermanen_,
    @impermanen_@zirk.us avatar

    @inquiline Biden’s made it pretty clear that his support for the bombings is unconditional, so he should be grateful if Netanyahu is so patient with him as to not shoot down our air-drop planes.

    ariaflame,
    @ariaflame@masto.ai avatar

    @impermanen_ @inquiline Citation needed.

    impermanen_,
    @impermanen_@zirk.us avatar

    @ariaflame No country gets more military aid from the US than Israel and as @inquiline points out, the aid has only grown in the last few months. https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

    If we’re to believe Biden has privately threatened to withdraw support or to stop vetoing ceasefires resolutions in the UN, then what are we to make of the fact that the civilian massacres continue and there has been no change from the US side? If that’s not unconditional, then what would be?

    I feel like I’m going insane.

    stiofi,
    @stiofi@troet.cafe avatar

    @impermanen_ @ariaflame @inquiline

    As a rule of thumb, I don't believe rich / powerful people when they claim that they are doing something, or will do something (often timed for when they are retired / out of office), until it is genuinely independently confirmed that they have done what they promised to do.

    You are not going mad, it is just par for the course.

    SparkleTea,
    @SparkleTea@toad.social avatar

    @inquiline

    Not quite

    The terrorists in control of the country that needs aid hijacks the aid so its people can’t get it on the ground.

    And they kidnapped people and won’t let the Red Cross in either.

    Eka_FOOF_A,
    @Eka_FOOF_A@spacey.space avatar

    @SparkleTea @inquiline
    By UN definitions, Hamas are freedom fighters. Mandatory Palestine is the homeland of Palestinians' ancestors, and Zionists have been forcing them out of it. The Zionists are even persecuting the native Christian and Sephardic Jewish Palestinian populations. What makes it even worse is you can't tell them apart genetically. They have a common genetic heritage that goes back over 4000 years.

    ravenonthill,
    @ravenonthill@mastodon.social avatar

    @inquiline they made most of their own weapons. I don't know where this stuff comes from. Israel is not a weak puppet state; they are a formidable military power in their own right and while the US helped them become that, that isn't the source of most of their weapons at this time.

    inquiline,
    @inquiline@union.place avatar
    railmeat,
    @railmeat@fosstodon.org avatar

    @ravenonthill @inquiline Israel purchases a lot of weapons from other countries. Their Air Force from the US and Navy from a few European countries. All expensive stuff. Also a lot of ammunition comes from the US.

    ravenonthill,
    @ravenonthill@mastodon.social avatar

    @railmeat @inquiline Do you have a breakdown? Because when I looked it up, they made something like 85% by cash value. They have a huge munitions industry. I was fairly startled, though I shouldn't have been.

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