brown567,

I grew up near the coast, so this actually helped me conceptualize the size of the starship more XD

CCF_100,

What’s the Enterprise-E look like in comparison?

Stamets,

Enterprise-E is 685ish meters if I remember correctly (previously my favorite Enterprise/Starship). So its not that much longer than the cargo ship.

MrShankles,

That’s what she said.

supercriticalcheese,

Or this sort of a boat at 488 m ! boat

AndyLikesCandy,

I know we only ever see a handful of rooms, that’s fine, but with over 100 crew they always all have personal quarters that are probably the square footage of 3/4’ish containers.

150m in diameter is one way to think about it. But then it’s also 8 containers long, or 25 containers circumference at the largest point down to no more than a few in circumference at the bridge.

You know, that seems tiny, it’s like there’s no volume left for the hardware that needs to be between every room and all over the hull

CoolBeance,
@CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

Should we start having villages on boats?

NickwithaC,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Those are called cruise ships and they suck.

CoolBeance,
@CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

That settles it, we now need spaceships pronto

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I remember many years ago seeing a size comparison between an aircraft carrier and the TOS Enterprise. The aircraft carrier was bigger. I didn’t even know how to process that because of how big the Enterprise seemed to me.

Ryumast3r,

305m is 1000 feet. The USS ENTERPRISE was 342m or 1,123 feet.

A modern day FORD class carrier is 1092 ft or 333m.

For personnel comparison, ENTERPRISE held ~5000 people and a FORD class has between 4-5000 people.

The fact that NCC-1701 only had like 1000 people is…a big difference.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I can understand that on a mathematical level, but on a more emotional one, it’s hard to process. Just like I know that the speed of light is 186,000 mps, but I can’t really fathom how fast that actually is.

OutlierBlue,

I think the scientific term is “very”.

jana,

It’s actually “most”

BluesF,

Well the speed of light is actually faster than you can reasonably comprehend… you can’t see or experience the travel time of something going that fast. 300m is not unreasonable to understand once you’ve experienced it though - that’s a big boat, but you can see one and get a sense of the scale.

ParsnipWitch,

This made me realise you could probably fit an entire small town including all it’s drama on a container ship.

Comment105,

Should’ve done that with Flint

Twipped,

Flnt is NOT a small town

Comment105,

How many people can stand in one container?

1 TEU ≈ 13.6m², so 27 @ ~0.5m² per person to not be too dense?

The Ever Given has a 20,124 TEU capacity, so that’s 543,348 people. With fewer people you get more space, including space for food stocks, sleeping quarters, kitchen area, etc.

Honytawk,

Star Trek: Evergreen

supercriticalcheese,

Stuck sideways in a hyperplane!

TWeaK,

It helps that containers are a standard size.

Comment105,

“I literally can’t fathom”

BlueKittyMeow,

I really hate/love that is is what actually put the size of those container ships in perspective for me. I’ve seen the massive liquid natural gas tankers and those things are terrifying big but like… I still didn’t get the scale of these. Thanks sci-fi (look you guys that box set of TOS pays off irl!!!) 🤪

(Fr tho, anyone else have that set with the plastic curved cases with one of the uniform colors for each season? Prtty curves, infuriating snag-the-case,drop-the-DVD-on-the-floor-and-swear-and-snag-the-insert-pamphlet-closing-it-up-every-singlegoddang-time. But prtty curves)

SeaJ,

Container ships are fucking massive. The Enterprise only held like 1000 people which is only a small portion of a basketball arena.

Kolanaki,
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Well damn, how tiny was Voyager? It only had like 1-200 people IIRC.

VindictiveJudge,

Voyager is just a hair longer than the classic Enterprise, but it’s also chonkier so it has more volume. About 150 people on an Intrepid-class, 200 on a Constitution-class.

BowtiesAreCool,

The original ship was also packed. Many many packed bunks and crowded halls. Even as noted in DS9 time travel to TOS episode

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The ship itself felt huge to me, but even Kirk’s quarters were pretty modest.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/af78d740-725d-4036-9a50-4e8d80f990b1.png

ursakhiin,

This Is the 1701, Kirk’s. It only had 430 people on it.

Nurgle,

More context, Empire State Building is 380m without the spire, 443m with spire and antenna.

Munrock,
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I always used athletics tracks as a frame of reference. On a 400m track, the saucer section sitting in the center would be longer than the straights, but wouldn’t reach the ouside edges of the curves.

xantoxis,

Honestly thought it was way bigger than this.

livedeified,
@livedeified@lemmy.world avatar

the Enterprise “D” (632.5m long) held 1000 people IIRC. crazy!

aeronmelon,

Even crazier, the Galaxy-class has the capacity to evacuate an additional 10,000+ humanoids.

When you watch videos like this, you realize that 1,000 is not that much against the actual size of the ship. The entire crew can comfortably gather in the main shuttlebay at the same time.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwx5uB0pyhQ

MenacingPerson,

Uhm what are you guys talking about?? I don’t quite understand…

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