maxamillion, to RedHat
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Red Hat’s commitment to open source: A response to the git.centos.org changes

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes

bookwar, to random
@bookwar@fosstodon.org avatar

Another day, another overreaction in world :(

I am glad that people finally start to pay attention to what we do.

I wish they listen more to what we say we do.

Currently people continue to be surprised that CentOS Stream is not what they imagined it to be.

And the only thing I can answer is - yes, I told you so.

maxamillion, to linux
@maxamillion@fosstodon.org avatar

I get the feeling too many people are sleeping on CentOS Stream because of how the CentOS EOL thing went down.

I mean sure, the messaging wasn't great but it happened and it is what it is. Don't let that detract from the greatness of the Stream project in its own right and as a collaboration point for all the based distros.

The gravity seems lost on most that for the first time ever the RHEL development process happens in the open. That's amazing. I love it.

jzb, to RedHat
@jzb@mastodon.social avatar

This is the first of, probably, many posts about the changes to how Red Hat distributes RHEL sources, RHEL clones in general. Not to mention the past, present, and future of FOSS development and business.

Short version: There's probably something in this post for everybody to disagree with.

https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/06/24/red-hat-and-the-clone-wars/

vwbusguy, to RedHat
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One of the hard things about the thing is that 's existence as a community rebuild was so often touted by people at Red Hat as a testiment to Red Hat's commitment to . It wasn't whether or not they could shut it down, but that they knew about it and intentionally didn't. Of course, there were those at Red Hat who disagreed with that back then, but it was very much a pitch point for what Red Hat was about in the space.

carlwgeorge, to RedHat
@carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org avatar

Can we all agree to stop referring to the RHEL source export decision as CentOS drama? It doesn't affect CentOS at all. CentOS knew the rebuild model was fundamentally flawed and moved on to something better.

gordonmessmer, to random

Personally, I think the idea that Stream will be the next version of RHEL a little backward. It makes Stream seem like a hypothetical, and supports the annoyingly persistent idea that it's something that hasn't been tested.

It's more accurate to view Stream as the current state of RHEL, while RHEL point releases are snapshots of a past state that receive extended support.

rysiek, (edited ) to sysadmin
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

Hey folks, now that the dust has settled, what is the wisdom of the crowd on how the recent kerfuffle affects long-term?

Is still considered a ~sane choice for infra work?
Is it something to migrate off of?

I am mostly a Debian person, and I am not following the RedHat/CentOS space too closely. Can anyone help out here?

fwilhe, to fedora
@fwilhe@social.tchncs.de avatar

I know this is a hot topic and I don't want to be guilty of bike shedding, but boy do I wish the installer would not create a separate home partition when I select automated partitioning. asks, rh just assumes this is 'correct'. Why? What advantages does this have, really?

nixCraft, to random
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jonathanspw, to fedora
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Earlier today at #almalinux we patched CVE-2023-38403 in iperf3 and released it prior to anyone else in the EL-ecosystem. We promptly submitted PRs with #centos and #fedora.

A lot was learned during this process so we can nail down the processes of doing our own patches while contributing upstream and ultimately deliver on our promises from https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/

#rhel #redhat

vwbusguy, (edited ) to RedHat
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

Were there any new 1:1 clone projects during the period when owned and before the CentOS retirement announcement?

Not asking about Scientific or Oracle who were before or AlmaLinux and Rocky who came after.

Bonus points if you can point to one that offered commercial support for its own branded rebuild from RHEL sources.

vwbusguy, to RedHat
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

I have to admit that whenever I have weird server problems on Stream, there's always a question of whether or not it's Stream or something else and that lack of certainty usually is just enough that I often might not file an issue for Stream, but also just enough that I second guess running CentOS Stream over in cases where I don't want/need full on . When stuff breaks on AlmaLinux, I'm less likely to question the distro (even though bugs happen everywhere).

carlwgeorge, to RedHat
@carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org avatar

> We will also start asking anyone who reports bugs in AlmaLinux OS to attempt to test and replicate the problem in CentOS Stream as well, so we can focus our energy on correcting it in the right place.

👏

#CentOS #RHEL #AlmaLinux

https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/

passthejoe, (edited ) to RedHat
@passthejoe@ruby.social avatar

The hosts of @DestinationLinux seem like very nice people, but they are 1000% buying what is selling.

They do point out RH's communication issues, but they don't admit to the bait-and-switch nature of the company's moves.

They're trying to make the case that Stream, Leap and LTS are roughly equal in not being the "bug for bug" source of the paid products.

There's a lot more nuance there, and that should be acknowledged.

https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-329/

tongpu, to random
@tongpu@hachyderm.io avatar

It's interesting to see how the two distributions which started out to replace are now reacting differently to the recent changes by Red Hat.

is using the opportunity to free themselves from the shackles of "bug-for-bug compatibility" and are focusing their efforts on ABI compatibility: https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/

on the other hand is looking for alternative ways to still access the RHEL sources and aims to maintain the 1:1 compatibility: https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/

fossrob, to RedHat

FWIW much love to all the having a tough time (again). Not all of us are part of the pitch fork wielding mob 😔

Appreciate you 💖

@carlwgeorge @Conan_Kudo @itguyeric @omenos

Linux_Is_Best, to RedHat

Advantages of SUSE Enterprise over Red Hat:

  1. Flexible support options, including LTSS and Priority Support.

  2. Comprehensive virtualization support (Xen, KVM, VMware).

  3. Integrated high availability for improved uptime.

  4. Powerful system management tools (YaST, SUSE Manager).

  5. Extended hardware compatibility and support.

  6. Strong collaboration with partners for integrated solutions.

vwbusguy, to RedHat
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Attention #AlmaLinux users!! Other #CentOS, #RHEL, etc. users might want to tune into this one as well.

https://jonathanspw.com/posts/2024-03-31-dealing-with-cve-2024-1086/

#Linux #InfoSec

centos, to fedora
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On more look back to CentOS at Flock while we look forward to CentOS Connect at FOSDEM. Troy Dawson took the stage yet again, this time with @carlwgeorge, to tell us the state of EPEL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEPqd-ghiY

derthomas, to RedHat
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

Wait what? Did just basically kill , or am I reading this wrong?

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream

jzb, to RedHat
@jzb@mastodon.social avatar

Following up Saturday's post on Red Hat and the Clone Wars with a prequel.

This is a look at early days of Linux and Red Hat's first controversial changes that disrupted clones and copies as it prepared to take on proprietary UNIX and Windows NT.

#RHEL #CentOS #AlmaLinux #opensource #GPL #SUSE #Debian

https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/06/26/red-hat-and-the-clone-wars-ii-a-history-of-the-early-2000s-linux-landscape/

alatiera, to linux
@alatiera@mastodon.social avatar

I think what we are really missing in the industry is a RHEL compatible distro. I really hope Amazon makes the spiritual successor to CentOS! RIP!

kwf, (edited ) to RedHat
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Lol.

For those following along at home, literally the only statement in this paragraph which is true is that centos stream 9 is ending in 2027.

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