kkoyung, to apple
@kkoyung@mastodon.social avatar

Killing web app support is a terrible idea. It definitely hurts the openness of app distribution on the Internet.

https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-on-course-to-break-all-web-apps-in-eu-within-20-days/

mariani1, to apple

operates with much smaller teams than you think. Productive engineers plus focusing on the right features lets them deliver products that are competitive in the real world against much bigger teams.

Apple will also (almost?) never admit that they didn’t do something because the teams didn’t have enough time. Marketing wants to preserve the magic smoke.

So the decision is actually not that hard to imagine as an ex-insider.

gael, to random French
@gael@mastodon.social avatar

I'm pleased to say that Murena smartphones and /e/OS fully support - including with a selection of apps in its App Lounge.

brayd, to apple

Things like removing support and artificially slowing down the speed of their USB-C port, as well as the fact that they are stuck on SMS, an insecure, old technology just to keep people use and an iPhones is the reason I eventually switched over to after using an for 5-6 years

Their forcing of users to use their stuff instead of adapting standard technologies annoyed the hell out of me.

frumble, to apple German
@frumble@chaos.social avatar

Ich erkläre #Apple​s Entfernen von #PWA (Progressive Web Apps) in der EU mal kurz, damit alle die bösartige Strategie verstehen: Sie begründen das mit enormen technischen Umbauten, die nötig wären, um PWAs von Drittbrowsern auf iOS zu integrieren. Zu den Drittbrowsern (mit eigenen Engines) wurden sie von der EU verdonnert. Über PWAs wurde da nie gesprochen, Apple erfindet sich das Argument zum eigenen Nutzen, nämlich:
Zwar werden jetzt alternative Appstores erlaubt (müssen 1 Mio. Bürgschaft …

redsolver, to apple German

Es wird langsam lächerlich, wie offensichtlich bösartig Apple auf den DMA reagiert. Nun werden wohl auch PWAs (progressive web apps) einfach entfernt (natürlich nur für EU-User), um alternative App-Distributionskanäle noch mehr auszutrocknen! Es geht nur noch darum, alles außer den App Store so user-unfreundlich wie nur technisch möglich zu machen... Ich hoffe auf eine zügige und möglichst schlagkräftige Antwort der entsprechenden EU-Organe https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/14/24072764/apple-progressive-web-apps-eu-ios-17-4

mappingsupport, to hiking
@mappingsupport@m.ai6yr.org avatar

1/ Like maps?

Short 🧵 with version 2 screenshots. Launch data March 19 (or sooner).

Your own custom high quality offline maps for iOS and Android with NO ads, NO tracking, No signup and NO cost.

Step 1: Use GISsurfer screenshot mode to make georeferenced JPG screenshots of almost anything GISsurfer can display.

Step 2: Upload the JPGs to Google Drive.

Step 3: View the JPG maps offline with the GeoJPG ‘web app’.

Left screenshot shows Menu items available offline.
Right screenshot shows additional (blue) Menu items available when online.

syuilo, to random
@syuilo@misskey.io avatar

MastodonやMisskeyはサービスではなくソフトウェアなので、「MastodonやMisskey」が候補に挙がる(挙がってしまう)ことが問題そう(Mastodon的には分散の思想があるからそれで良いのかもしれないけど)
mastodon.socialやmisskey.ioといった具体的なサービスが挙がるようになって欲しい

RE: https://mstdn.yuicho.net/users/yuicho/statuses/111908321897018227

mima,

@syuilo Could this be a factor why doesn't have an "official" mobile app and you recommend people to use the instead? ​:sagume_think:​

zef, to random
@zef@hachyderm.io avatar

Just upgraded my iPad to iPadOS 14.4 beta 2 and full support is still there as before (I’m in the EU), so perhaps this breakage is just for iPhone?

cassidy, to iPhone
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

I’d lightweight been considering trying an once a few of my nits were solved—and appeared to be systematically addressing them over the years:

Default apps, , ,

But now they’re throwing a monumental tantrum and behaving in the most entitled, anti-consumer way possible—if you wrote it into a fictional plot, you’d get dragged for being unrealistically over the top!

So I’ve again lost interest. Apple can keep poisoning their walled garden; it doesn’t affect me. 🤷

niutech, to iOS
@niutech@fosstodon.org avatar

@jensimmons Could you please comment on the breakage of in 17.4 for users? See @firt's tweet: https://twitter.com/firt/status/1755406923485122615

royal, to Vivaldi
@royal@theres.life avatar

Where does / store its configurations? here.
I have a PWA or "shortcut open as desktop" that opens to the wrong URL. The behavior of the app makes that hard to configure using the UI (it automatically redirects); I want to hand-edit a file.

How do I find that file?

kepic, (edited ) to android
@kepic@shonk.social avatar

I need #Android #Browser recommendations. #Privacy, #PWA support, and #Sync with #Desktop are important. Current alternatives include (add yours in replies):

kepic,
@kepic@shonk.social avatar

#Vivaldi isn't an option. #PWA is broken on #Android. @Vivaldi

nhoizey, to apple French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar
mysk, to iOS
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar
mysk,
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

It will be a major blow for EU users if iOS 17.4 is released without PWA support. Many major European companies have already converted their native iOS apps into PWAs, mainly to skip the unnecessary overhead imposed by the App Store, such as app distribution and the App Review.

mysk,
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

This video illustrates the difference between a PWA and a normal browsing window, i.e. iOS 17.3 vs iOS 17.4 beta 2

https://youtu.be/VlH6IGmAeqU

patrickbrosset, to webdev
@patrickbrosset@mas.to avatar

Browsers have sidebars now, and it's great for side-by-side experiences.

On the Edge PWA team, we've been experimenting with giving web developers an API to leverage the sidebar:

⭐ The Side Panel API ⭐

If you have a minute, please try it out, or at least check out our explainer, and let us know if this is useful for your app!

📺 learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN3ntsSJXyI
💬 feedback: https://aka.ms/sidepanel-feedback

A short intro video about the Side Panel API. To find out more, visit https://aka.ms/sidepanel-explainer and https://aka.ms/sidepanel-docs

mappingsupport, to maps
@mappingsupport@m.ai6yr.org avatar

Trouble sleeping?
Try writing software documentation. 😴 😴 😴 😴😴 😴 😴 😴
Time for a 🛌

GeoJPG v2 launch on target for March 19 - maybe sooner.

Make your own custom maps, host them for free on Google Drive, view them offline and see your geolocation.

No ads. No tracking. No signup. No cost.

I am developing this as a public service and part of my way to "pay it forward". Plus I am having a blast doing this since - to the best of my knowledge - this is a new approach to offline maps.

zef, to random
@zef@hachyderm.io avatar

If Apple is really killing Home Screen on iOS 17.4 I’m going to be quite upset.

https://mastodon.social/@mysk/111857830238574891

snugug, to webdev
@snugug@mas.to avatar
nhoizey, to apple French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar
schizanon, (edited ) to webdev

Know what sucks about Progressive Web Apps? When you accidentally close one, you can't shift+ctrl+T it back.

joelanman, to webdev
@joelanman@hachyderm.io avatar

Is it not possible to use a 'magic link' email sign in with a pwa (progressive web app)?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65965020/how-can-i-sign-in-through-an-email-link-magic-url-to-open-a-pwa-instead-of-the-b

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