Guy I knew had a phrase, "can't stand prosperity." It refers to people who can't take good news, who have to turn it into bad news.
That's a lot of you. STOP IT.
See link. Is this a complete victory? No. Is it a step? Yes.
The response of a lot of lefties is "that's not perfect so it's shit, and you're shit for being happy about it." Not those exact words, but close, and it's exactly the attitude.
If that's not what you mean you react that way, then here's the correct response:
"Fuck yeah! Now let's make them do [the next step]."
Because "that's shit and you're wrong for being happy?" THAT'S NOT ANALYSIS, THAT'S SELF-SABOTAGE AND AIDING THE ENEMY.
@moira Left leaning #Libtard here. I don't think it's a loss at all:
#JoeBiden won Colorado by 13 points so kicking #tRunt of the ballot really wouldn't have mattered.
#MAGA will celebrate the fact that #tRunt hasn't been kicked off of the ballot and miss entirely the major part of the decision. There is now a judge on the record saying that #tRunt has "engaged in insurrection"
I could go on and on here (and if anyone asks, I will); suffice it to say, it's a huge win for Democracy.
This is legitimately a huge problem with the political left.
It's a form of purity culture. If a politician, company, law, whatever is not perfectly ideologically pure, then it's completely worthless and not worth supporting at all.
It's like we have all these #Exvangelicals on the left and literally the only thing they kept when they walked away from the religion they grew up with was the purity culture.
Often they don't even acknowledge that something good even occurred.
They are so clouded by their need for a ceasefire in Gaza, they never actually acknowledged humanitarian pauses that are still very much a success and a step in the right direction.
For me, the most obvious example is leftists distaste for Joe Biden. We have a guy who is easily in the top 5 most progressive US Presidents in history in terms of actually getting stuff passed, but because he has not literally solved every single problem in the world there are lots of leftists on mastodon that proudly declare they aren't voting for him.
@Gregnee@1dalm@chiclet Oh the troll farms are definitely at work already. Started ramping up a couple of months ago. Not just here, of course, but I've seen it here.
We've got to face facts, a not insignificant number of "lefists" don't want to win, don't want change. They love being on the losing side and complaining about it.
Therefore they feel like they have to keep the good news in check.
Crazy Republicans used this for a long time, "If we were in charge and did things our way it would be so much better". But the problem there is when you get that chance you have to come through. It's much easier to just stay the underdog and complain.
Whilest the the rights are scanding paroles, recruiting, following leaders, building up their shit, people on the left are still reevaluating some basics in attempt of some perfectionism.
@moira your message rings true, but at the same time by using the term “lefties” - which sounds like a derogatory term - you’re setting people apart as a group and make it easy to attack them 🙂
I’d love to see constructive criticism framed in a friendly and inclusive way. And to be clear, I wholeheartedly agree with your message, just not the tone
@moira As a leftie, for all I care, fucking anti-consumer robber baron capitalist Apple and anti-trans fascist Musk can have each other and I give a fuck.
@ssfckdt Did I say any of that? You have very odd interpretations of my words.
Here, I'll make it easier:
The good part is, "Elon Musk's fascist propaganda and disinformation machine that he bought to try to shape the 2024 election discussion as far to the fascist as possible suddenly has a whole lot less income and money to do these things."
That's called a win! Yay!
And the "and" of "yes, and" is now we work to make sure he doesn't get that money back.
This has a manic aspect to it that makes it unpalatable. It’ll resonate with fellow manics, but will it seed any progress toward wherever it is you want to go? Doubt it.
@GottaLaff@moira There's a saying I find useful when I encounter that approach: "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
It's reassuring to see other people who prefer to celebrate the victories (even if small or temporary). I think it makes the Fediverse a happier place.
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