exscape, (edited )
exscape avatar

Indeed, pretty cool!

First thing I noticed though is that I'd really like to know which instance a thread is actually on.

For example, this post:

Going back to Reddit feels bad (kbin.social)
polygon, 2 hours ago to chat

... is actually on chat@beehaw.org, even though it says "kbin.social" and just "chat" below. Pretty confusing.

EDIT:
There's at least one fix for this in the meantime -- get this userscript:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script

czech,
czech avatar

Also: I think usernames from other instances should show which instance they're from.

Otome-chan,
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you can see this if you hover over their name. but it's not displayed by default. It'd be nice to have an option to have it written out rather than hidden.

Catch42,
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I think it'd make the comments a little cluttered looking. It doesn't really matter what instance someone is from for regular conversation and if someone's curious the can click through to the persons profile

SparkIT,
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It matters if 2 users have the same nickname.

czech,
czech avatar

I was thinking it should be included to avoid casual impersonation. I agree it would be a lop more cluttered though; maybe there's another way.

asjmcguire,
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I mean - on the desktop site at least, I can just hover over someone's name and see what instance they are on.

Otome-chan,
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It should be an option. Some people prefer the "clean" version of just showing username, with needing action to see url. while others prefer seeing the entire username+url even if it's "messy". I'd prefer the latter, while others might prefer the former. It should be a toggleable option.

Nepenthe,
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I think appending it to the username would be slightly messier for me, but for unexplainable brain reasons I seem to want to have this feature as well. Maybe if we stuck the instance below their avatar instead?? In any case, it would still be appreciated on articles

Otome-chan,
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Yeah, whatever ui to show it i'm fine with as long as i don't need to hover over every name to see it lol. whether it's just added to the end like how tagging works, or if it's shown underneath or something is fine too.

MeowdyPardner,
MeowdyPardner avatar

Yes the full username@instance for all remote users at a minimum would be good

exscape,
exscape avatar

There is a userscript for this now! Works a treat!

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script

Otome-chan,
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Threads are hosted on the instance that the magazine is on. I think instances viewing it also just make a copy?

You can check the @ to see the url for both users and magazines. I'm not fond of the fact that kbin often hides the @url for things. I'd much prefer to see it since it makes things feel bigger to me. @.chat@beehaw.org just ends up being shortened to @.chat lol. see? @chat @chat they are identical lmao. it's annoying.

Kichae,

I get what you're saying -- that the link source indicator should point to the instance that hosts the group -- but it's a quirk of how federation works that the thread is actually on kbin.social. And, well, any other site that's following the thread.

Everything is actually local on the fediverse. It's just that not everything has to originate from the local website. Federation works via content mirroring, which is why the URL for any given Magazine you're viewing still starts with kbin.social. You're not viewing remote content, you're viewing local content that was imported from a remote source. And the link indicator is telling you where kbin has been told the content resides.

And that's on kbin.social.

I think maybe the link source indicator just shouldn't render if the thread doesn't have a link purposefully attached to it, and the Magazine name should show the full name@host indicator.

Nepenthe,
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Cannot tell you how much I appreciate things like this and how long it's going to take me to get used to the idea of not being on a closed platform. It makes perfect sense, but it would seem to defeat the purpose of having the source there at all, like you've suggested. We know it's on kbin, that's where we are.

ernest,
ernest avatar

For now, I'm just preparing the groundwork, but first, I need to get some sleep :p

cowvin,

Lack of rest leads to bugs. Take your time.

ernest,
ernest avatar

just kidding

Fatalchemist,
Fatalchemist avatar

rip sleep

Saturdaycat,
Saturdaycat avatar

Get some rest!

gus,
gus avatar

You deserve it, we all appreciate your dedication and efforts

Blakerboy777,
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You're the man!

binnin,

you're the man too, the exodus is on? at least the 'traffic is enormous holy shit' prompt on the right is a good sign.

someone's gotta help this guy though if it's just one dude and his server rack in his spare room

*edit works looks like. yea this is cool, pretty much reddit, nice

awsamation,
awsamation avatar

Keep up the good work man, but also take care of yourself.

It doesn't do anyone any good if you burn yourself out from lack of self care.

Teali0,
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You are killing it. Keep it up and take care of yourself!

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  • Otome-chan,
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    The speed thing is interesting because for most of the time it's actually not unusable. It's a little delay here and there, but often fast or okay speed. it's only sometimes that it gets kinda unbearably slow. But IMO as long as it's up, I can deal with a slow speed here and there if it means I get to keep using kbin :). the dev/admin here is an absolute champ. kbin is awesome.

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  • Otome-chan,
    Otome-chan avatar

    So far I've used kbin entirely from my laptop web browser. I haven't tried accessing it with my phone just yet.

    RetroRandy,

    Definitely been more stable than reddit.

    Otome-chan,
    Otome-chan avatar

    I prefer "sometimes it's laggy/slow" over reddit's "btw we're gonna just die for an hour. lol you broke reddit, here's a pic of a cat unplugging a computer".

    artillect,
    artillect avatar

    I don't know why but the "you broke reddit" message always frustrated me. I didn't break shit lmao, it's the site that's broken

    EnglishMobster,
    EnglishMobster avatar

    I'm still not able to subscribe to magazines on here from Lemmy, which is interesting. Maybe federation needs some time to catch up.

    Attempted_Render,

    Same. I've tried searching for kbin from lemmy, but nothing ever pops up. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or it just isn't fully working yet.

    EnglishMobster,
    EnglishMobster avatar

    Figured it out - you have to put the entire URL into the Lemmy search bar. For example, to find @modeltrains, you need to search Lemmy for https://kbin.social/m/modeltrains.

    Once one person subscribes, then the community will show up in searches for "modeltrains".

    Zana,

    What about for Lemmy from Kbin? Like on the Lemmy page it says to type !streetfighter into your search to get the result, but when I enter that in the Kbin search bar it errors out.

    EnglishMobster,
    EnglishMobster avatar

    For Lemmy -> Kbin, type @streetfighter@lemmy.world in the search at the top.

    Zana,

    Yo, you rock! Thank you so much, friend!

    Nepenthe,
    Nepenthe avatar

    This would insinuate kbin is the only one requiring the whole URL, and it seems like that would severely hamper the discovery of only kbin magazines from non-kbin instances. Which is like. Most instances in existence. :/

    Unless you mean the discovery is fine and it's only how you have to subscribe to them, which I can't check because I have no interest in setting up other accounts atm

    EnglishMobster,
    EnglishMobster avatar

    IMO, Lemmy is the one that's incorrect by requiring the URL. Kbin does the same thing Mastodon does by having it use the @ instead.

    LollerCorleone,
    LollerCorleone avatar

    Looks like a one way traffic right now.

    Dream_state,

    This is the first post I've seen from kbin! Hello 👋

    Otome-chan,
    Otome-chan avatar

    yes I've been seeing much more activity at least from lemmy world and beehaw. moreso than these past few days. I've actually had a "live" chat with some of them!

    blaise,

    I can see this (and am posting from) from my personal kbin instance, so it seems to be working!

    Vortex,

    Wonderful. Let the "Threadiverse" grow!

    Sausage,
    Sausage avatar

    @ernest doing the business. What a dude.

    If you have the means, sling him some funds

    parrot-party,
    parrot-party avatar

    Chucked another coffee. The black gold will power the servers through.

    CoderKat,
    CoderKat avatar

    Do you have the link on hand? I'll pour one out too.

    parrot-party,
    parrot-party avatar

    Sausage linked it above

    CoderKat,
    CoderKat avatar

    Ah, thanks. Done! To save anyone else thinking similar from having to scroll up, it's: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

    samwise,
    samwise avatar

    Thanks for the link just donated!

    Lells,
    Lells avatar

    Bought him several coffees earlier today, he deserves it!

    Teali0,
    Teali0 avatar

    I mean seriously? This dude's project has had hardly any downtime (like 100% inaccessible downtime) in the last few days during a massive migration. How impressive is that? He was able to find a solution with cloudflare where, sure things were a little slow to load and didn't federate, but I never found myself unable to access kbin. On top of that, he's communicating clearly and often. I hope this succeeds. @ernest has absolutely earned it.

    Sausage,
    Sausage avatar

    There have been a few times I've been unable to log in, unresponsive pages etc., but considering how recently kbin.social was created, the massive influx of users and the fact that @ernest is managing all this himself - absolutely phenomenal job.

    CoderKat,
    CoderKat avatar

    I haven't looked into just what the backend architecture is like, but I've seen comments that suggested it may be a single physical server? If so, some short periods of downtime are unavoidable. I do high availability backend dev and it's no easy task to have near perfect uptime. Having distributed servers across multiple locations is essential for that, but generally requires careful design. Databases also get more complicated when using distributed databases (but I swear by them).

    TheYang,

    not really, while apparently there is read access for other instances, I couldn't get a post to this thread from lemmy

    artillect,
    artillect avatar

    Dang, well it looks like it's moving in the right direction regardless. Glad to see that progress is being made!

    Zana,

    Is this why when I search for Lemmy instances from Kbin it just shows error?

    BreadDog,
    BreadDog avatar

    Hmm, yeah, looks like my posts aren't showing up on beehaw. Curious what the actual state is.

    BiggestBulb,
    BiggestBulb avatar

    Seems a lot faster for me as well!

    olrik,
    olrik avatar

    I believe it's because the big first wave of migration from reddit has settled down and cloudfare protection has been turned off. This makes it a lot easier and faster for everyone.

    boondock,
    boondock avatar

    Just curious, are you guys exclusively using phone or computer, mix?

    I’ve only used my phone so far out of habit and it’s definitely kept me more limited in exploring

    onceuponaban,
    onceuponaban avatar

    A mix of both, and on that note I'm thankful that this website actually works well on mobile.

    exohuman,
    exohuman avatar

    I’m using my phone. I’ve added kbin to the home screen so it’s in its own app. I have logged in using the computer and I just prefer my phone.

    Calcharger,
    Calcharger avatar

    Holy Moly everything is flying now. Wow!

    simple,
    simple avatar

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  • masterX244,
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    cloudflare was the reason why federation was borked. federation communications is server<-->server traffic and that can't pass the bot filter

    kjr,
    kjr avatar

    @artillect I'm not sure, I cannot see myself in Mastodon, and I cannot see the content of my Mastodon followers. Maybe the federation is yet on the way.

    lixus98,
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    Is slowly coming back, ernest is testing the waters, he said recently that he was working on upgrading the server and that federation will slowly come back.

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