OC UPDATED: There are now multiple iOS / Android apps in development for kbin & lemmy!

hariette, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Not much love for Kbin! </3

But I get it, without an official API, it's a lot of work to get one going. I just refuse to use Lemmy, so I'm committed on getting a Kbin app ASAP. We're just about to have alpha.1 build ready and it's pretty darn usable.

Plugging our magazine here:
https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp

EDIT: me not going w Lemmy was due to devs. I still think it’s a viable platform for the fediverse, especially with all the instances out there besides theirs (and being open source). Kbin being completely separated just felt like the right choice for me when picking between the two.

leftbones, 10 months ago

Why do you refuse to use Lemmy?

!deleted201250, 10 months ago

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static, 10 months ago

I've seen that "problem" a lot, but they give away the source code for free as proper communists should do, and then it's out of their hands. Just don't go to lemmygrad.ml.

DarkenLM, 10 months ago

Microsoft also makes a lot of open source software but there's people that want to stay the fuck away from it.

As for me, I just prefer the Kbin layout.

phosphorik, 10 months ago

Tankies? Not familiar with that one.

I signed up for kbin because it was easier to understand. Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard. As for the developers supporting China… well, Lemmy is open source and the whole point is to make something where you don’t have to agree with the people running it.

kill, 10 months ago

Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard

how about any lol, any major instance is ok

and yeah lemmy is open source, there's a lemmy instance for every point on the political spectrum, devs being commies makes no difference for the end result which is a very diverse (fe)diverse

MxM111, 10 months ago

Do they have right to be commies? Sure.

Do I have right not to use their project because of that? You betcha! Especially since there is good (if not better) alternative (kbin)

Treebeard, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

There are alleged members of the communist party who are mods at lemmy.ml, or some kind of Chinese state apologists. Those who seek freedom of speech should be forewarned of this.

HidingCat, 10 months ago

Aww yes, looking forward to it! Will go sign up for testing if you're accepting.

acedelgado, 10 months ago

Gotta say, I'm really excited for the work you're doing on Artemis. Kbin's mobile site is really good especially considering how young it is, but I miss the smoothness of a real app. Thank you for jumping in on it so quickly and enthusiastically!!

ColonelSanders, 10 months ago

Thank you for your service kind citizen!

Xeelee, 10 months ago

I with you here but we should avoid fragmentation by all means. Having two competing platforms that aren't interoperable would be a huge disservice.,

hariette, 10 months ago

AFAIK, they are, right? I see lemmy posts on kbin all the time.

Xeelee, 10 months ago

Yes, and that is something we should promote as much as we can.

hariette, 10 months ago

100%!

z500, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

They are. Even Mastodon mentions of communities show up as posts.

bric, 10 months ago

They're fairly interoperable, and people are working to make the interop better daily

static, 10 months ago

Just communicate with the kbin developers a lot, ernest did disable the api for now because he might change it.

hariette, 10 months ago

Yeah, following along the active PR for the site’s API closely :)

Rn using homegrown one based on their DTOs. Using a scrapper. Just so we can run a small scale private beta. Has help us get a lot of the core functionality in place. Currently the app is looking pretty good.

static, 10 months ago

Yea, use anything to get started.
But with what you are doing it's fine to contact the dev team/mr dev directly; they'll love it.

jiji, 10 months ago

I much prefer kbin to lemmy so I really appreciate you putting in the effort! I put myself on the alpha list and I look forward to it. :)

brunofin, 10 months ago

While not mentioned in the list and no code was actually written towards Kbin yet, I do plan to support it and Mastodon if possible on Beyond when possible :)

Lilkev, 10 months ago

By the way, upon full release Artemis will be functional for both Lemmy and kbin, AND be available on both iOS and Android.

Alpha testing should be starting in the next day or two.

Noki, 10 months ago

you can add one more to the list for Kbin:
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110587136358486606
@dansup

He already created https://pixelfed.org/ (Instagramm like interface for the fedivers) and https://fedidb.org/ (tracking of the fedivers growth)

Very talented and hard working! Very happy to ses that.

aeharding, 10 months ago

Don't forget wefwef - an apollo-like progressive webapp (for iOS, android later) under active development I'm working on ^_^

Also works great on tablets and desktop! And it's hackable, self-hostable and open source, because it's a progressive webapp.

https://wefwef.app

https://github.com/aeharding/wefwef

https://lemmy.world/c/wefwef

firebat, 10 months ago

@aeharding Added!

Cloudless, 10 months ago

I like your app's simple and beautiful design. Some suggestions:

• Your "install app" page says Safari even though I'm using Firefox on the desktop. Perhaps you can change the instructions based on browser detection

• Images are always displayed in full height. Will you consider setting a maximum height for images so tall images won't affect browsing the posts?

• The login page says "Due to CORS, all requests to will be proxied through wefwef.app". Can you elaborate and give reassurance that privacy would be respected by your app? Perhaps a privacy policy under the settings page would help.

• The profile page has a very short list of instances. Is there a logic on how those instances are selected? I support that you are selective about what instances are included. I hope to see the instance managed by weirdos to be excluded.

aeharding, 10 months ago

Hi! These are great questions 🥰

• Yes, there are absolutely plans to make install app logic smarter!
• Currently, image render in the feed similar to apollo. However... are you viewing on mobile or desktop? Is there a particular post that's problematic? I might add more logic around this, but for mobile in portrait, it should be intended. Note that in the post page, there is a height limitation to 50% viewport. Oh, and a compact feed view is planned!
• Yeah, I need to write a privacy policy. I'll get this done today or tomorrow.
• The short instance list is just for an MVP. I definitely plan on expanding it!

You can also choose any instance by adjusting the URL on the posts page. For example, (assuming you're logged out) you can view midwest.social with the following link: https://wefwef.app/posts/midwest.social/all. However, you make a good point about being selective - I might create a blacklist, as I don't want wefwef to be used by hate groups.

DARbarian, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

In table format for your (desktop) viewing pleasure:

FOSS	Name	Platform	OS	Stage	Source Code	Info
YES	Memmy	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Android Release (Pending Play Store Approval)	Github	memmy@lemmy.ml
YES	Morpha	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Under Development	Gitlab	morpha@vlemmy.net
YES	Thunder	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Alpha Release	Github	thunder_app@lemmy.world
YES	Mlem	Lemmy	iOS	Submitted for App Store Review (July 1)	Github	mlemapp@lemmy.ml
YES	Jerboa	Lemmy	Android	Released	Github	jerboa@lemmy.ml
YES	Artemis	Kbin, Lemmy	Android, iOS	Private Beta (Starts End of June)	Unreleased	ArtemisApp@kbin.social
YES	Limbo	Lemmy	iOS	TestFlight Beta	Unreleased	limbo@lemmy.world
YES	Beyond	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Under Development	Unreleased	original Beehaw post
NO	Sync	Lemmy	Android	Research	N/A	syncforlemmy@lemmy.world
YES	Slide	Lemmy	Android	Under Development (More information coming)	N/A	original Lemmy post
YES	Lemmynade	Lemmy	Android	Under Development	N/A	original Lemmy post
NO	Connect	Lemmy	Android	Released	N/A	lemmy community
NO	Summit	Lemmy	Android	Open Beta	N/A	lemmy.world
YES	Unnamed	Kbin	Android, iOS	Research	N/A	kbin post
TBD	Lemon	Lemmy	iOS	Development, Beta in Early July	N/A	lemm.ee
YES	WefWef	Kbin	Web App	Released	Github	lemmy.world

imperator, 10 months ago

Hmm on Jebora it's completely illegible lol

DARbarian, 10 months ago

Yeah I realized it's only readable on desktop :(

gkd, 10 months ago

Memmy dev here. I am waiting to see what happens with this new API. As long as that is ready, I’ll be ready. I’m working on wrapping the Lemmy API client a bit differently so I can easily just plug in the KBin API whenever that time comes.

alin, 10 months ago

If there isn't one already, we should pin this post and keep it updated with all the apps that are coming out.
Might need @ernest to do it since he's mod.

firebat, 10 months ago

@alin I’m keeping an eye on any new apps and updating the post

@ernest

ProvokedGamer, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

There’s now also boost for Lemmy on android that you can pre register

g0nz0li0, 10 months ago

How is wefwef so good? It’s incredible!

sqraw, 10 months ago

Can we add this? (Terminal) neonmodem.com

iamhazel, 10 months ago

I don't have a link but there's an app Lemming for Android being released to Play next week and the dev posted the APK for testing. Saw it in all so not sure where it is.

BrollyLSSJ, 10 months ago

The Limbo Dev and the Lemmynade Dev joined forces and both their clients will be merged to Liftoff. Maybe the list above could be adjusted to reflect that.

Sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/520520
https://lemmy.world/post/520809
https://bigfoot.ninja/post/6474

firebat, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

@BrollyLSSJ Thanks I just saw your comment right after I updated the list! :)

cianmor, 10 months ago

there is one more, lemon at https://lemm.ee/c/lemon

cianmor, 10 months ago

There is one more, https://lemmy.world/c/lemon@lemm.ee

LazaroFilm, 10 months ago

Could you update the list with the release status of each app? Some apps are available via FlightTest, some are closed Betas, some need AltStore sole loading, some are only announcements with screenshots.