carloshr, Spanish
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Best Linux Distro Privacy/Usability for a mid level user

What do you think is the best linux distro for a user who wants to migrate from windows in terms of privacy, usability and respect for the FOSS spirit?

I'm thinking to give a chance to https://elementary.io

@privacy @linux

forteller,
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@carloshr @Openhuman @privacy @linux I think Zorin OS is good for this.

rasmus91,
@rasmus91@fosstodon.org avatar

@carloshr @privacy @linux i think you should.

It's not made for customization, but I've not found a better install and run experience.

michaeln,

@carloshr @privacy @linux
From Windows? Mint. After Mint? Manjaro. After Manjaro fucks again with the signing keys thing and their amnesia? Mint. Or MX Linux. Once you are past the learning curve, Debian. Want to get your hands dirty? *buntu based distro. Hype? EndeavourOS.

ErictheCerise,
@ErictheCerise@kolektiva.social avatar

@carloshr

For privacy and "FOSS ideals" stay away from Ubuntu and RedHat.

For "easy for a Windows user", I tried switching to Linux 6-7 times over 15 years, different distro every time.

The one that finally "stuck" for me was .

Although honestly, nowadays, most of the top distros are very good. I'm also a fan of

@privacy @linux

derbolle,

I would recommend what looks most promising/fun to you.

personally I am staying with the “big ones”. on my gaming pc I have installed fedora with kde. on my notebook(with touchscreen) I am trying Debian with gnome and eventually arch when I am clear on how I want my system to be exactly

for work and network stuff I use debian with kde.

If you are unsure I’d recommend either debian or fedora with kde. Ubuntu isn’t really something for me because snap is really annoying (apt installs sometimes default to snap but don’t tell you outright)

apt_install_coffee,

Do you just care about privacy, or is it your primary focus?

There are Linux distros like Tails which will be very hard to use day to day, but if you are laser focused on privacy, it’s between that and CubesOS (not Linux).

Most Linux distros will give you reasonable privacy from an OS standpoint, from there it’s up to you to have good practices with your data.

TooLameForLemmy,

There are Linux distros like Tails which will be very hard to use day to day, but if you are laser focused on privacy, it’s between that and CubesOS (not Linux).

QubesOS. Also TailsOS isn’t too bad if you do persistent memory and don’t mind slow internet traffic over Tor. I find it plenty usable for simple browsing and downloadikg small files.

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

TAILS

possiblylinux127,

Linux mint

ShovelLiz,

Fedora, mint or open suse tumbleweed. Pick your favorite DE and just give It a try. If you want to make distro hopping easier make a /home partition

carloshr,
@carloshr@lile.cl avatar

@privacy @linux
According to most of the responses so far, Eeementary is not the best choice. So I think I will try as the first option.

https://linuxmint.com

MarvinTheMartian,

@carloshr @privacy @linux good choice

mekuso,
@mekuso@fosstodon.org avatar

@carloshr @privacy @linux Elementary used to feel way ahead of its time, now it feels a bit behind instead. Not exactly a bad distro, but also not my top pick. Linux Mint has been rock solid for me for many years.

thecam,
@thecam@lemmy.world avatar

Linux Mint is great for beginners and is simular to Windows.

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Debian + GNOME + Flathub. The cool thing is that you can get the flatpak/flathub repository into GNOME’s “software store” so you’ve updated software and a very polished experience for your user.

TheAnonymouseJoker, (edited )
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Mid level Linux user, who was once a Windows user who switched to Ubuntu, and has migrated to Debian. DE > distro, and please pick DEB based distros for an easy life.

GNOME. This is the best DE, hands down. Anyone saying KDE or some window manager is a hobbyist who is detached from reality and “normal” use cases. GNOME is in a different ballpark than every other DE, with XFCE-like resource usage while having the best workflow. Its design is the most beautiful and polished besides Deepin (third party software looks odd with it) and KDE (very bad resource usage and overload of customisation).

qaz,

The desktop environment is much more important, I recommend going with Fedora, it’s easy and has a large community and has a large amount of desktop environments to pick from.

qwerty,

Distro doesn’t really mater that much, desktop environment (de) is a more important choice for a new user.

Comming from windows you might like cinnamon, mate, kde plasma or gnome with ArcPanel and Dash to Dock extensions. There’s also lxqt and xfce for low spec systems.

You can install any de on any distro but if you are new to linux you might want to stick with the default one.

If you want cinnamon or mate go with linux Mint.

For gnome ZorinOS looks decent. I think it comes with wine already set up to make running windows programs easier. If you have an nvidia gpu Pop!_OS comes with nvidia drivers but you’ll probably want some gnome extensions like ArcMenu and Dash to Panel.

Before installing any distro you should try them out in a live usb mode or a virtual machine.

Personally I started with Cinnamon Mint but it had issues with my multi monitor set up and poor gaming performance so now I’m on gnome Pop!_OS with ArcMenu and Dash to Panel on desktop and lxqt lubuntu on laptop.

I switched from windows about a year ago and now I’m absolutely certain I’m never comming back. The first 2 weeks or so are the most difficult because you feel like you have to learn a brand new skill every time you do something basic that would take you 30 seconds in windows but once you have everything set up and are more familiar with how things are done on linux it will feel completely natural.

Good luck on your linux journey, I hope you see it through. :)

CookieJarObserver,

Mint is great, it runs on my refrigerator so it should run on most other Hardware as well, and its pretty Beginner-friendly, and the community is helpful.

possiblylinux127,

You serious?

CookieJarObserver,

Yes, its easy and just works out of the box.

possiblylinux127,

I need photo evidence. You also should post it on !Linuxmasterrace

pkotrcka,

Debian. If for some reason (software) you need a RPM based distribution then openSUSE. But the good thing is that in open-source world, you can try as many as you want almost for free (you invest your time, obviously).

j4yt33,

Mint helped me a lot when I switched from Windows. I found it very straightforward, as much as that’s possible with Linux

Encryption,

I think to start, Mint or Ubuntu is a good choice, it has support for most hardware and will probably run on whatever you install it.

Also something that I think most new Linux users should focus on; instead of distro pick the desktop environment (DE). As a beginner it does not really matter if you use, lets say, a Debian- or Fedora-based distro. Pick a DE that looks pleasing to you maybe GNOME or KDE and take the installation with that DE. Maybe do not start with Arch or Gentoo as they are for more experienced users that already have some Linux experience.

Distros will be way more interesting and important when you got a hold of Linux and you want to explore the differences of them.

Last tip: Make a separated /home directory, so when you want to change to a new distro you do not have to delete all your files and start over with an empty machine.

I wish you a good start into Linux and do not hesitate to ask questions if they arise!

nottheengineer,

I’d recommend against ubuntu (but not against derivatives of it) because they clearly don’t respect the FOSS spirit with their insistence on snaps.

Encryption,

True, but you can easily switch to Flatpaks and use them instead.

ChapolinColoradoNZ,

Mint all the way. Have had nothing but good experience with it.

carloshr,
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So far, I understand that mint doesn’t use snapd, right?

ChapolinColoradoNZ,

By default Mint uses Apt.

nottheengineer,

At that point, why not just run mint instead?

amanneedsamaid,

At that point, use Mint.

carloshr,
@carloshr@lile.cl avatar

@Encryption @privacy I've discarded Ubuntu due to snapd. Does Linux mint also use snapd? 🤔

floofloof,

Linux Mint makes a point of excluding all the Snap stuff. It’s a very good distro where everything usually just works.

FarLine99,

Please don’t. ElementaryOS is bad for new user this days. Try Fedora Workstation edition or Plasma spin, Linux Mint.

carloshr,
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@FarLine99 @privacy
what's the problem with elementary for new users?

Decentralizr,

I would say elementary is easy for new users? What did I miss haha. This said I go with fedora or popos for new users.

FarLine99,

It is buggy. Really old packages. Non enabled deb installation in Software Store. Non wayland support which is definetly the future.

Cube6392,

Its not a privacy problem, its a software being up to date problem. Elementary is slow to be updated so you’re going to spend a lot of your time debugging and troubleshooting why your wifi isn’t working, what’s the deal with your font rendering, why is the login screen acting like that?

ianmclean, (edited )

@carloshr @FarLine99 @privacy

has a very opinionated design and includes some defaults that would be desireable for pretty much absolutely nobody - the most prominent of them being that it only lists apps from its own store, which is almost empty, and then gives warnings to users to try and discourage them from going to a place like FlatHub for the software that they will no doubt need. There is a tone about the OS in its design and especially its language in dialogs that may make people feel like they are the ones who are "wrong" if they do not wish to stick with these defaults - I think that's what really rubs so many people the wrong way, and a brand-new user that doesn't know much about Linux would just be completely lost.

It also has no direct upgrade paths for major new versions, and they do their own apps and DE which is great, but they are also under-resourced and so the experience can be a bit glitchy sometimes.

You mention being a mid-level user though, so I think you'd be fine with it, if you like the look of it. In terms of privacy, usability and respect for the FOSS spirit, I think Elementary and its Pantheon desktop environment is fantastic, and I believe it's actually worth trying to adapt to its way of doing things. I use it and love it.

For someone brand new to Linux that just wants to get up and running quickly and get work done, I'd highly recommend instead. It's very much a counter-point in philosophy to Elementary OS and gives a vibe of: "You do things however you're used to, I just want to make it as easy for you as possible."

carloshr,
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@ianmclean @FarLine99 @privacy
thanks for your comments. I've already decided to install . Actually I've been using it for around a month and I'm very satisfied. Currently I almost don't use windows.

JackGreenEarth,

Manjaro is really easy to use and understand for beginners.

Cube6392,

They hold back security patches. That’s a 1000% nope distro

cerement,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

a distro that has let their SSL certificates expire four times

currawong,
@currawong@lemmy.ml avatar

No it’s not. Unless by beginner you mean geek that’s beginning with Linux.

I work with elderly people, they’re the real beginners and I’ll never install a Manjaro on their machines.

Kayel,

I’m looking to switch my parents over to something more friendly than windows which I can remote support. If it’s okay to ask, what have you found has been well accepted by old people?

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