hankg,

So as of today Mastodon now has a US 501(c)3 non-profit entity to go along with their German corporate entity that appears to be losing its non-profit status for reasons the don't know yet. blog.joinmastodon.org/2024/04/…

Onlineadviser,
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@hankg Congratulations. The IRS will eventually post information from the newly approved nonprofit organization on its web site but have you considered making it publicly available sooner? I imagine, for example, that the information from the 2022 annual report was translated to US currency in the Form 1023 application?

hankg,

@Onlineadviser Unfortunately I didn't tag @Gargron or any of the other Mastodon doers on my OP so they probably didn't see this question. I'm not involved with Mastodon in any way. I'm just a very excited fediverse citizen from the Friendica side that is very happy to share their news to the broader world.

benroyce,
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@hankg

From my experience with , it's extremely rulebound. I don't sense any malice by the govt of , just overbearing bureaucracy

I like the fact has more rules in general than the for . but there is a limit, and capricious bullsh** like taking away 's status over, what I assume, is some tiny clerical error or minor rule discrepancy, is just embarrassing for Germany.

hankg,

@benroyce I agree I don't think there is any nefariousness going on. It's just a Kafkaesque bureaucratic nightmare they have to go through which may have no joy at the end.

benroyce,
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@hankg dealing with German bureaucracy is pretty much the opposite definition of joy

carstenfranke,
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@benroyce @hankg you can get the same here in the US. My rocket club incorporated as 501(c)3 this year, but we can not get a sales tax exemption in the state, since our educational activity does not fit their definitions. Even though we have a lot of trainings and launches for aerospace students and engineers at the university and many colleges. While at the same time the boy scouts qualify for the exemption... But yes, German bureaucracy can be a special kind of joy.

benroyce,
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@carstenfranke @hankg

all you have to do is claim political activities and the IRS will cower in fear that GOP congresscritters will cry "deep state oppression!" when they apply normal rules to you

carstenfranke,
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@benroyce @hankg that is a strategy that I have not tried, I will bring that to the board 😜

benroyce,
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@carstenfranke @hankg please don't. I had no idea of your rocketry org and it sounds lovely. don't take advice from social media loudmouths! 😂

carstenfranke,
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@benroyce @hankg your remark reminded me of some of the trump tax files. I think I remember one quote from an IRS memo where the auditor said they thought Trump owed $40 million in taxes, but it was not really worth going after that because he had aggressive lawyers and it would be a hassle to deal with them.

hankg,

@carstenfranke @benroyce The situation with right wing groups abusing 501(c)3 groups is even more pernicious than that, sadly. Which is saying a lot.

benroyce,
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@carstenfranke @hankg

exactly

it's also why usa is stupid on mafia sleaze like while countries like treat them appropriately: the goons just literally infiltrated the , and bullied the motherf***ing irs, which is rather impressive if not revolting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

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