FarceMultiplier,
@FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca avatar

en.wikipedia.org/…/Ending_Qualified_Immunity_Act

If you want this to stop, force your representatives to finally vote this into law.

Cabrio,

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  • Ilovethebomb,

    Are you really that far off the deep end?

    pensa,

    As someone who lived in Dallas at the time, shooting back does effect change. It's anecdotal but encounters with police really seemed to be less confrontational following this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

    malo,
    @malo@lemmy.world avatar

    How do you think this approach will end, genius?

    TruTollTroll,
    @TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

    We need some real brave mothsfuckers for that… But it is something I want to see too… some real push back against the bullies… I can’t understand how it hasn’t started yet

    SoylentBlake,

    You don’t even need to shoot them, just get a couple dozen of ya boys and arm up and open carry.

    Black Panthers did it and cops stopped patrolling their neighborhoods, which is what the BP wanted.

    Republicans got so fucking scared, Reagan, their fucking NeoLiberal Gawd, passed gun control laws!

    Seriously tho, we need more open 2A leftists

    Dangy,

    Is there a carry focused community here on lemmy?

    BackOnMyBS, (edited )
    @BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

    I had found !jbrc when Lemmy kicked off during the API scandal, but it seems to never have really caught on.

    bobman,

    force your representatives to finally vote this into law.

    Lol. We’d have to vote for new reps. And as soon as we do, the ruling class just spends more money on campaigns to make sure we don’t get any power.

    Lord_McAlister,

    So some neckbeard republicans are going to come out and say “She should have just complied”, but honestly what is the absolute worst scinerio if she WAS shop-lifting? In what world is it not a better option to just get her FUCKING CAR’S license-plate number, track her to her house, then arrest her there when she’s clearly cornered? Or just boot her car when it’s found again and force her to come to you to get it off?

    Because now you’ve killed a woman and her unborn baby over some God damn groceries.

    Katana314,

    What I want to do is make a satirical video game about complying perfectly with a police officer’s requests, and show just how hard it is.

    Throw in mixups where the player might be confronted by armed criminals, just to make sure players instill themselves with a sense of self-preservation.

    30mag,

    What I want to do is make a satirical video game about complying perfectly with a police officer’s requests, and show just how hard it is.

    Do you really need to?

    mrnotoriousman,

    Unsurprisingly you have downvotes too.

    sndmn,

    If this is a jurisdiction that says embryos are people then that cop executed a completely innocent person.

    Cethin,

    That would require logical consistency. I would never accuse a republican of such a thing.

    PP_BOY_,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    Shhh… don’t point out their own hypocrisy

    Compactor9679,

    Is nit that she shop lifted, is that she tried to run over the officer

    ieatpillowtags,

    She clearly didn’t try to run him over though, so what’s it really about?

    Compactor9679,

    She does not have to.

    Wookie,

    “Yes, sir, officer sir! How many licks?”

    Compactor9679,

    How many items you took aithout paying?

    Chetzemoka, (edited )
    Chetzemoka avatar

    I thought it wasn't about her shoplifting? Make up your mind.

    Oh, I'm sorry. It's not about any of that, is it? It's just about whatever you need to excuse a government agent murdering an American citizen without a proper trial by jury.

    Do us all a favor and never pretend you respect the United States Constitution ever again.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    When did that become a death sentence without a judge and jury?

    EndlessApollo,

    You can clearly see her turn the wheel away from the officer, and she doesn’t slam on the gas, she just accelerates at a normal speed. Not that that matters to you, you just love jacking off to pigs murdering people and don’t want to question for one second how shoplifting and resisting arrest is supposed to justify murder

    Cethin,

    If she was trying to run him over, she did a really shitty job. The cop put himself in front of the vehicle and she turned her steering wheel the wrong direction and didn’t slam the accelerator. I think if anything the cop was trying to be run over, not the other way around.

    Compactor9679,

    Its not about “doing a good job” or not. She had the intent. Its all it takes for an officer or even a person to defend themselfs

    Lord_McAlister,

    You’re not getting it. He wasn’t trying to defend himself, he was intentionally putting himself in a place of danger to justify murder in the name of defense.

    Compactor9679,

    Amazing how cops are put in that position. Putting yourself intentionally in a place of danger to do your job. We have to thank every single one of them

    Lord_McAlister,

    How’s that boot taste?

    Cethin,

    She clearly did not have intent. The cop just placed himself in front of the car. If he wasn’t there she still would have driven forward. She didn’t drive forward because he was there. It wasn’t intent to run him over, it was intent to flee. The cop had intent to be in the cars path though.

    danc4498,

    Same exact neck beard republican bitching is bitching about the injustice of arresting the good boys for Jan 6th.

    Ilovethebomb,

    Or, you could deal with the issue when and where it arises? Seriously, some of the commenters here are trying to rewrite history.

    She drove at a police officer dude.

    Lord_McAlister,

    She drove away from a police officer who intentionally stepped out in front of the car.

    Also that’s some grade a level hypocrisy right there.

    KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

    The argument will be that she was trying to use her car as a deadly weapon because she accelerated into an officer standing in front of the car.

    frunch,

    Which falls apart when you watch the cops body cam footage and see that never even happened

    30mag,

    I agree that she shouldn’t have been shot.

    In what world is it not a better option to just get her FUCKING CAR’S license-plate number,

    She was driving a car without license plates, which is unusual.

    Young got into a four-door Lexus sedan that did not have a license plate and was illegally parked in a handicapped spot, Belford said.

    www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/…/70680484007/

    sixCats,

    Okay but at that point shoot the tyres??

    !deleted95653,

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  • SaltySalamander,
    SaltySalamander avatar

    She should have complied for sure, but non-compliance shouldn't mean execution by firing squad.

    Chetzemoka,
    Chetzemoka avatar

    Sorry, I'm just gonna repeat that for the folks in the back...

    NONCOMPLIANCE SHOULDN'T MEAN EXECUTION BY FIRING SQUAD

    Cethin,

    I pretty sure she drove her car into a wall because she was bleeding to death. I don’t think that was really a decision.

    tryingtimes,

    she should have just complied,

    I’m surprised there isn’t an automod bot to filter out cliche comments exactly like this

    snooggums,
    snooggums avatar

    Probably thought they were going to kill her anyway, since cops be doing that on the regular.

    sab,
    sab avatar

    The headline "Pregnant lady caught shoplifting groceries; arrested" would already be telling of a society that has gone far over the edge.

    KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

    I thought it was alcohol?

    MelodiousFunk,
    MelodiousFunk avatar

    In this timeline, the edge is so far gone that it's faded into myth.

    Reddfugee42,

    American fascists continue to prove their belief that property damage isn’t an acceptable response to murder, but murder is an acceptable response to property damage.

    PalmTreeIsBestTree,

    Couldn’t have said it any better

    bobman,

    The social contract is breaking.

    Tygr,

    Is this where society is heading? Rampant theft resolved with murder to save corporations?

    To them, this probably sounds easier than lowering prices, reducing CEO’s millions in pay and propping up stock prices.

    grayman,

    Yes. To get back to normality, we must pass through this extreme, which is the necessary counter to defunding and demonizing the police as opposed to holding only the bad ones responsible for their actions. We’ll be in this state until we remove qualified immunity. So it will probably take a while.

    nublug,

    that’s some nazi ass bullshit right there holy shit

    zaph,

    The governor of Florida and presidential hopeful said looters will be shot on sight. So no, it’s not where we’re headed because we’ve passed that destination and it’s normal. Property is firmly above people.

    kautau,

    There’s a reason why Militech and Arasaka are the biggest players in the cyberpunk rpg universe. Once corporatocracy reigns supreme and public funding is gone they reap profits off private security, as intended. We’re just now seeing the horizon of “defund the police” becoming “hire a PMC as your ‘police force’”

    LukeMedia,

    Reminds me of the news in cyberpunk 2077 telling how “warning shots to the knee” became legal for police

    orrk,

    this may surprise you, but the police started out as PMC union-busting operations

    kautau, (edited )

    Oh lol I’m totally aware. There was a time in history where striking didn’t mean you’d be fired but instead fired upon. Just sucks to see it now coming back full circle

    Maebbie,

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  • FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh yeah, sure, they increase prices because of “theft.” They’re honest corporations who would never increase prices for another reason like greed or price gouging.

    WeebLife,

    How many times am I going to see this article.

    jpreston2005,

    This is run of the mill for Ohio cops. I grew up there, I’ve seen it all my life. They are a reckless, racist, violent group of thugs with the mentality of the KGB. If you’re ever so unfortunate as to find yourself there, and in the presence of one, LEAVE. don’t do a fuckin thing that might garner their attention.

    They’re also fanatical about pulling people over, they’ll pull you over for ANYTHING. and if you’re not the whitest of white, you’re gonna have a real bad time.

    just… just don’t go to Ohio.

    ilickfrogs,
    @ilickfrogs@lemmy.world avatar

    Anything short of two life sentences would be completely unacceptable. Can’t wait for that piece of trash to get suspended with pay. Homicidal scum…

    Kerred, (edited )

    That’s why I kind of prefer news about convictions and sentences rather than the crimes committed. In 9 years when and if they are finally convicted I will at least know if justice was served and what the final context was.

    The cop was in the front corner of the car, so I imagine it will be dismissed for self defense easily in these kinds of scenarios since the cop had a risk of being run over? Haven’t seen how other cases involving potential hits turn out in the US

    ArmokGoB,

    Can’t wait for this to blow over in two weeks. People need to start physically fighting against the departments that allow this stuff to happen.

    flowerofanarchy,

    More 👏 dead 👏 cops 👏 ACAB Worldwide🏴

    old_ghost, (edited )

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  • ShunkW,

    She literally turned the car to try and avoid the pig. Go fuck yourself.

    Amazed, (edited )

    What an ignorant hot take.

    She was clearly afraid when they surrounded her and drew their weapons. I mean, my god she’s black and pregnant, and surrounded by cops harassing her for a false accusation. She was terrified it was the end. It’s not her fault. It’s theirs. And she can’t take it back. Read the damn article. It went against policy for that cop to stand in front of the car in the first place.

    Further, this is why cops shouldn’t even fucking have guns. They are too dumb and quick to agro to realize they shouldn’t draw it ever. Especially for such a low stakes, stupid crime. When you start with the gun, it can only get worse.

    valentino,

    Everybody is at fault here. Her for shoplifting, him for shooting. Both for being fat Americans. What a shithole of a country, fucking nuke it already

    Murais,
    @Murais@lemmy.one avatar

    Shoplifting shouldn’t carry a death sentence. Ever.

    bobman,

    That’s fucking horrible.

    First off, I wish they would show the full uncut raw footage. People need to see the reality of getting shot.

    Second, he literally just pulls the gun out and says “get out of the car.” Like, what the fuck man? Get out of the car or I’m going to shoot you? For stealing from a fucking kroger? One of the biggest businesses in the US?

    Dude. This is bullshit. He needs criminal charges.

    cheery_coffee,

    If only there was some sort of metallic plate attached to the car that could be used as an identifier, which combined with police footage of the thief could be used to safely locate them, with nobody needing to draw a gun unless there was immediate danger.

    tym,

    What a great idea! They could register that metal plate with local govt, almost like a license to operate a motor vehicle…

    jimmux,

    Sounds like communism.

    /s

    sentient_loom,
    @sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s too early in the morning for me to watch uncut footage of a pregnant woman getting shot.

    bobman,

    Cool. That doesn’t mean everyone else shouldn’t.

    sentient_loom,
    @sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s a good thing you refuted my attempt to restrict people from seeing things. I was literally gouging people’s eyes out with a fork, destroying all computer screens and light bulbs, bringing a new age of permemant darkness so that nobody shall ever behold the glorious videos of preggos getting riddled with bullets… until One True Hero had the courage to Rise Up against my reign of tyranny and said,

    bobman,

    Settle down.

    dope,

    aren’t you supposed to be offering some kind of actual threat before they pull out the guns?

    lingh0e,

    Cop: stands in front of car Cop: I feared for my life!

    Don’t get in front of fucking cars, asshole.

    Delusional,

    Haha no way. US cops pull out their gun for no reason whatsoever all the time. Nothing like what actual trained police in other countries are like.

    CafecitoHippo,

    Another benefit of protecting gun rights over everything. Now the police can say they were worried that the suspect had a gun and had to fire first. The same people that claim to support the police also make their jobs harder every day by wanting every American to be armed…well every white American.

    Aux,

    British cops don’t even have guns. And yet they’re capable of dealing with organised mass shoplifting lbc.co.uk/…/police-descend-oxford-street-tiktok-m… I can imagine American cops machine gunning the crowd in this scenario.

    biofaust,
    instamat,

    I’m a firm believer of “if you see someone stealing food, no you didn’t”

    AWittyUsername,

    Also depends who they’re stealing from though. Massive corporation… I didn’t see shit. A small family run restaurant struggling to get by then I saw it with both eyes.

    instamat,

    ASTERISK, what you said. And a farmers market vendor.

    bobman,

    A small family run restaurant struggling to get by

    What does ‘get by’ mean to you?

    ArmokGoB,

    Make enough to not get evicted after expenses.

    bobman,

    That’s fair.

    Would it be okay to steal from a family-run restaurant if the family lives in a $300k house and has no real financial troubles beyond keeping up with the Jones’?

    ArmokGoB,

    Yes

    tym,

    Dang - today I learned it’s okay to rob me after a lifetime of successful decisions. Noted. This is how republicans are born btw… lucky for society the grand ole wizard party is unviable nowadays!

    funkless_eck,

    get a load of this Javert

    jesus_talks,

    Thanks for your service

    Nurse_Robot,

    What a cringe take. You could really benefit from doing some community service and getting to know how other people live.

    instamat,

    yes

    PowerSeries,

    Alcohol while pregnant though?

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