ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

True, but fuck KSL, it's a Mormon-owned entity.

otp,

What’s wrong with Mormons? In South Park, they were the only religion whose devout followers have been treated kindly.

Though I haven’t seen The Book of Mormon…

MutilationWave,

The race bigotry, the anything that isn’t hereto hate, the normalizing of totally cutting people off if they deviate from the cult?

But if you’re basing your views on south park I’ve got bad news for you.

otp,

But if you’re basing your views on south park I’ve got bad news for you.

I can’t keep up with all the spins on Christianity that the US comes up with. And the Mormonism episode didn’t drive me to do external research the way the Scientology episode did! Haha

Whirling_Ashandarei,

You mean besides being an uber controlling cult that embezzles millions if not billions of dollars?

Also Book of Mormon is excellent, highly encourage you to go see it! There’s not a bad seat in the house for Broadway.

RGB3x3,

“Some customers are fed up and pushing back”

But continuing to buy things from them, yeah? Companies are not going to change until people stop buying from them.

Nobody needs McDonald’s. I’m not even sure most people actually want McDonald’s. Just stop going, seriously.

MutilationWave,

I hate McDonald’s. I eat McDonald’s. If I get into some tiny town or get off work in a tiny town at 11pm or later it’s often the only place open.

What I don’t understand is people who eat there by choice. I sometimes work with a guy who will go to McDonald’s by choice, even with better/cheaper options, three times a day.

I wonder how much of McDonald’s average franchise net income is from road warriors.

Coreidan,

God damn. What fucked up nightmare is this if your ONLY choice is this toxic shitty unhealthy food?

You poor fucking bastard. Your health will pay for that in time.

thrawn,

A ton of people work poor jobs or unfortunate hours and have their health suffer for it. No need to rub it in, he clearly doesn’t think it will be healthy.

SeducingCamel,

You can get $1 breakfast sandwiches and $2 mcchicken with free fries in the app. I definitely use it when I want the cheapest lunch or breakfast option

Mac,

Lol who tf has the McDs app?

IchNichtenLichten,
@IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a burger place near me which makes a great burger - good quality ingredients, interesting toppings, great fries and they’re cheaper than McDonalds. Given McDonald’s prices on ingredients will be substantially cheaper, and their volume higher, this is just pure greed.

nul9o9,

My local burger places are just like that. Absolutely bonkers what people with a routine will tolerate if the change is slow.

IchNichtenLichten,
@IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world avatar

Some people are open to trying new things, they want the excitement of trying out a new restaurant or take out, they want to try types of food they’ve never eaten before.

Then there are the other type. They behave in the same way as children do, they want what they like, and will not take a risk on something new, even on something as pedestrian as a burger.

MutilationWave,

I’ve worked with a 50 year old man that gets upset if there isn’t a nearby Chick-fil-A. He eats the same thing every day. By his other behaviors I assume it’s undiagnosed OCD or something so we don’t give him shit about it.

ApathyTree,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My former coworker got the exact same thing from chipotle every single day. Nothing wrong with him, just really liked his routine. Some people are like that.

jaybone,

This seems pretty black and white. Ironically.

I love trying new food. But sometimes I just want to order something where I know what I am going to get.

IchNichtenLichten,
@IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world avatar

You’re bi.

BakerBagel,

Yeah there is a little drive through burger stand 2 blocks away from me. Amazing burger and fries combo for $11. The only downside is their service is super slow, but that’s a crapshoot at nearly every fast food chain at this point

TheIllustrativeMan,

Yeah there is a great place near me that does a really, really good double with pimento, chili, fresh onion and jalapeno for around that too. 2 people getting food, a loaded fry (that’s actually loaded), and tip is somewhere around $30. I don’t see why I would eat at any fast food chain.

somethingsnappy,
psud,

I don’t understand how McDonald’s does so well in Australia, since our traditional takeaways do such good burgers and better chips (fries) a home cooked version true to the fish and chip place original

Though my partner prefers the burger “plain” which omits the bacon, egg, and pineapple

13617,

Y’all aren’t boycotting?

shalafi,

I’m stunned people are bitching about fast food prices. Just don’t? FFS, what do you expect?!

“I keep buying and prices keep going up!”

Yeah. That’s how it works. Have you considered maybe stop giving them money?

“I can’t! I’m helpless and have excuses!”

aesthelete,

But but, people of limited means don’t have any option but to…overpay for fast food? Yeah that’s it. There’s just no competition in the food game at all… You’re forced to eat big macs even if they’re $3500 a mac… Because that’s the only option you have as a poor person I assume…or something.

31337,

A lot of people are time-poor (have kids, long work hours, multiple jobs, etc). McDonald’s used to be pretty competitive-priced compared to cooking from home. I remember when their cheeseburgers were something like $0.70, and I often would get 4 of them on my break (I was in highschool, and worked 6 hour days after school, so I obviously didn’t have time to cook).

Blackrook7,

In high school, cheeseburgers were 0.39 and used ate 17 of them during lunch and my buddy ate 21. We didn’t go back for a long time after that haha.

TangledHyphae,

That’s the unfortunate side effect of rampant inflation where wages stay stagnant as markets decline. Look at how many restaurants and fast food places closed last year. I’m lower middle class and I have stopped getting fast food entirely. Every time I pass by on the way to and from work I just see the total for the meal in my head and drive past them now because it’s just not worth the overall financial damage. I honestly don’t know how everyone else is affording even Taco Bell meals regularly every week. I used to work there years ago and the food was significantly better back then, and way cheaper than other food sources. Where the hell did they all go so wrong this past year? Greed? There’s gotta be a price gouging greed mechanism in there somewhere.

prole,

That’s the unfortunate side effect of rampant inflation where wages stay stagnant as markets decline.

Markets aren’t declining though. That’s kind of the whole point isn’t it? These corporations are making record profits every quarter, yet workers wages are stagnant, and prices of their products have gone way up.

They’re doing great while also doing everything they can to make sure that the people doing the actual work don’t see a dime of it.

afraid_of_zombies,

Been wondering the same thing about apple products since the iPhone.

SendMePhotos,

Idk about boycotting but I’ll tell you that I haven’t had McDonald’s since I went and it was like $20+ for two people for some breakfast sandwiches (meals). I’d rather buy the frozen ones or just have none. Like everyone else, we don’t have a ton of extra money and if we do go out, we want our value for our time.

I got used to thinking about money being time. If you make 15/hr then one meal is roughly one hour. Don’t think of your dollar, think of how many hours something costs.

SuperCub,

Insane how little it costs to rent a human.

SendMePhotos,

It’s a lease-to-own

AlecSadler,

When/where was this? My wife and I just had breakfast sandwiches with sides and drinks, each, a week or so ago and it was like $8 total for both.

MagicShel,

I just checked here online and the cheapest breakfast meal is 6.99 in the middle of flyover country, with the high end being over $8.

SendMePhotos,

Part two of not ordering McDonald’s is that they updated their ToS back in October and basically bought your waiver of rights to sue for some free fries.

I can’t see prices online without accepting the terms. I refuse.

AlecSadler,

Ah, I checked as well and it was because of BOGO/BOGO1 deals in the mobile app (which seem to be a daily thing). It cost like $5 more to order two meals versus ordering the items individually and triggering BOGO/BOGO1. Brought it down to $9 for both.

JustUseMint,

“time is money” etc and inversely

whoelectroplateuntil,

There was an article on here the other day about the $20 big mac meal. Basically McDonald’s is trying to exploit higher grocery prices, assuming more consumers will go to them instead. But they seem to not realize that charging as much as a douchey hipster restaurant for a burger and fries while being literally on par with frozen food is a losing proposition. It’s like they forgot they’re still in competition with the entire rest of the restaurant industry and that their prices have to stay below grocery prices to be competitive with groceries in the first place.

Hilarious, not gonna lie.

prole,

and that their prices have to stay below grocery prices to be competitive with groceries in the first place.

What? You can get enough ingredients to make 4 burgers for that much at a grocery store. You just have to make it yourself. The entire concept of fast food is that you’re paying more for the convenience.

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  • prole,

    I was being generous in their favor. Basically steel-manning their argument.

    diannetea,

    There’s this one McDonald’s on this busy road where we live and I jokingly started calling the right lane the “McDonald’s lane” because so many cars in that lane were always turning in. I realized earlier this week that these days most cars drive past instead.

    TheIllustrativeMan,

    Here it’s Popeye’s… which they seem to have at least maintained a decent quality/price ratio. Their wait times are atrocious though. Zaxby’s is even worse, but they at least have a big enough parking lot to stay out of the road. That line has taken a half hour to move up 1 car length before.

    ramsgrl909,

    I worked for McDs in high school, around 2008. Big Mac meal used to be $6.08 with tax, $1 menu used to be $1.06 with tax. I went the other day and was shocked to see how much everything costs now plus I have to order via a screen (which I find bizarre, but maybe I’m just old now).

    I also feel like working there used to be kind of fun. I’d take the order from the drive thru/take the money, kitchen would secretly prioritize drive thru orders (everything is timed), and window person would get the order together. Now it seems like they take 1 or 2 drive thru orders at a time and make the line wait until those are done.

    Seems like fewer people working & prices went up - and I’m sure those poor folks working are making minimum wage. It’s just sad all around.

    flathead,

    so you order on a touch screen that has been used by every nosepickin’ customer before you and then chow down on food you eat with your hands? Sounds delicious.

    jeremyparker,

    In high school (~1995) I used to work in light construction/carpentry, and I was ravenous on a normal day, so work days I would eat huge amounts - on payday I would go to McDonald’s and order a Big Mac meal and a happy meal – both for me. (It probably would’ve been more cost effective to buy two adult meals, but the first time I did it the cute girl at the register said something about how I seemed like a nice dad … I should’ve just asked her out, rather than keeping up a bizarre charade for no reason – I was tan and fit from working outside all the time, I should’ve had more confidence, but I was also undiagnosed autistic too, so, well, that kind of explains that.)

    Anyway, the Big Mac meal was $2.99 united states dollerydoos, and I was making $7/hr. The price doubled in the 10 years between us… but wages stayed about the same.

    ramsgrl909,

    It’s truly scary how minimum wage hasn’t changed

    afraid_of_zombies,

    would secretly prioritize drive thru orders

    Fucking knew it! Thanks for confirming

    this_1_is_mine,

    Well metrics are collected for both dining and drivethru but dive thru was always pushed hard as the thing to maintain timing wise. That’s when we figured out the smile button. A no charge but very abusable button that would count as an order. Ring a smile and wait 10sec and clear it. Ring one every 3 orders to be sly to corporate… When your having wait time issues and you could clear them and have them count even before clearimg the order before it. Easy way to knock the occasional 5 to 10 minute order down that skewed my hours metrics.

    squidspinachfootball,

    That’s pretty funny, was ordering a smile actually a thing? What happens?

    this_1_is_mine,

    I think the idea was to add it as an additional argument on the order when when inputting an order as an ask me button or potentially just as a cheeky little Easter egg but it would ring up as no dollar charge nothing more really. But tracking was on individual orders and since you could ring a smile and summit it as a order "pay for it " $ 0.00. And then wait 10 to 20 seconds and you could dismiss the order as fulfilled. Each hand off station in the store has a set of screens that show what the order is and what’s coming next for a couple of orders. You can dissmis orders out of order buy using a keypad. So a small coffee order can be dismissed while leaving the 15 filet of fish order up as a reminder. Any time you would see a order for a smile. You would hunt that order down as soon as you saw it and dismiss it. It became a huge joke about how many smiles per hour were being done during district meetings. Can’t imagine corporate ones.

    prole,

    Well yeah, how else will they post profits every quarter until the end of time?

    saintshenanigans,

    The cool part is I started working there just after you! I started around 2013 and worked there until about 2016 and it was STILL about maybe $7 or $8 for a meal, and the dollar menu was still $1.06

    This shit happened during covid and they’re literally only doing it because they can. There have been reports that the current inflation isn’t driven by the state of the economy at all, but just corporate greed.

    Don’t waste your time and money guys, you can get food cheaper at the mom and pop restaurants now, and that food is usually at least half decent. When it’s the same price to eat at McDonald’s or a “healthier” place like tropical smoothie or Chipotle, why the fuck would I want to pay for ultra processed sludge

    olmec,

    I hear people talk like this, but I don’t think it is actually true. Sure, fast food use to be half of a smaller joint, but now you are only paying 20-30% less at the fast food places. That ignores the fact that a lot of the cheap food is on the apps now. My Mcdonalds has had buy one get one Big Macs for about 2 years now. Even if I get that and a fry, I am looking at a $8 bill as opposed to a local joint that is going to charge $9 for their basic burger, no fries.

    This doesn’t even take into account the speed of the fast food places, which is much slower than it use to be, but still the fastest places in town. So yes, the days of a late night snack run to Taco Bell are over, but the restaurants still have a purpose. The purpose is for when you need some food right now, and not for a huge price.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

    There have been reports that the current inflation isn’t driven by the state of the economy at all, but just corporate greed.

    Corporate greed definitely exists, but printing $15 Trillion also has an effect.

    saintshenanigans,

    I’m no financial analyst and im no good at all of the legal jargon, but aren’t the notes below this chart explaining they changed how they calculate this right around may 2020?

    Like I said, I’m illiterate when it comes to the technical side of this stuff, so I just googled and from what I’m gathering from this article below, the fed changed the rules for what defines a savings account so they’re almost the same as checking, and that caused them both to get reported in M1 and that’s the majority of that surge of cash.

    Feel free to correct me with better evidence, like I said again, I’m just trying to understand the legal wording here:

    collabfund.com/…/the-fed-isnt-printing-as-much-mo…

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In, (edited )

    True. If we stick to the older definition of M1 then it increases only by 125%. From 4 to 9bn

    If we look at M2 which includes M1 then we still see the massive recent increase in the money supply.

    prole,

    When it’s the same price to eat at McDonald’s or a “healthier” place like tropical smoothie or Chipotle, why the fuck would I want to pay for ultra processed sludge

    Yes, exactly. Maybe I just take the amazing variety of local food choices near me for granted, but it just makes no sense to me anymore.

    The only fast food I still get sometimes is Taco Bell. Not if I’m in the mood for Mexican, I’ve got a half dozen better places near me for that. Taco Bell is its own genre of food separate from Mexican and Tex-Mex.

    Crass_Spektakel, (edited )
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    Fun fact: In Germany, the big US fast food companies are in a constant price war. They hand out vouchers at least once a week and offer big discounts online and in their apps. Because if they didn’t their restaurants would be utterly empty. For the price of €12 for a Big Mac menu, I can go straight to a pretty good restaurant and have a Schnitzel with French Fries, a salad and a beer.

    Especially Burger King and McDonalds are doing that all day. Subway and KFC a lot less.

    Then there are Turkish and German fast food restaurants. They often have prices so low they simply don’t have to lower then to beat the US chains. And to be honest, before I buy a burger for €5 I buy a Kebab or Shawarma which beat every burger in taste and amount of food. German fast food restaurants often sell grilled chicken, all sorts of fish, fried sausages and so on. And yes, we consider Pizza German Food nowadays. And the Italians agree, especially when talking about Pine-Apple Pizza or Pizza with pulled pork. They are usually cheaper than anyone else and the food is huge and easy to eat fast. German Fast Food makes all others look like slow food, you can easily stuff yourself in two minutes.

    Some prices:

    -The Croatian canteen in our town hall serves good Balkan cuisine from €5. A glass of tap water for €0.50. And it is a nice place, not looking like a canteen at all. Tips are included in these prices.

    -I have a ton of vouchers of 50% voucher for Chicken McNuggets, Big Macs and Salads. I don’t visit McDonalds too often as they require to order from a needless complicated touch screen but when I do I sometimes take a voucher “Two Big Macs for €5”.

    -a company I work for sometimes orders the “business menu” from Burger King which is something like “20 burgers of your choice and 2kg of fries” for €70. As the boss often invites his worker I am just happy with whatever I get.

    -the local furniture store offers 50% vouchers for a a complete fish dish on Friday for €5 in his nice restaurant.

    -they also offer Chinese and German Food often at 50% vouchers which equals to €4-€5 for a complete meal. And every day they have some cheap East European soup dishes like Borscht, Flaczki, Gulasch and so on for €2-3 and it is always a HUGE amount of food.

    Seriously, if you open your eyes you would be surprised how many really cheap and great restaurants are around.

    dangblingus,

    Americans were told sometime in the 1970s that fast food = freedom.

    9715698,

    It feels like the days of 5EUR döner are in the past now. I see for 7 or 8 EUR sometimes.

    fne8w2ah,

    Especially the much higher quality and freshness of food in Europe in general.

    oxideseven,

    It’s kind of the same here price wise. But people in the US tend not to care and love the convenience of fast food or are just stuck to a brand. Some of the lines I see at places here are nuts.

    prole, (edited )

    And to be honest, before I buy a burger for €5 I buy a Kebab or Shawarma which beat every burger in taste and amount of food.

    Compared to a BK or McD’s burger then yeah absolutely. But compared to burgers in general? Much closer call. If you haven’t had a really good cheeseburger, then you’re really missing out.

    Fast food burgers should have a different name, the difference is so stark.

    Crass_Spektakel,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    I know what you mean. A couple of years ago I bought a “Sandwich”. Man, it was THE BEST Sandwich I ever ate. It was just “from Heaven”. It was totally worth €10. And no, it wasn’t from Subway or the Kind. It was tiny Bavarian Restaurant pretty unknown outside its town. To bad it made a GREAT name meanwhile and nowadays charges like twice as much for anything.

    TheIllustrativeMan,

    And to be honest, before I buy a burger for €5 I buy a Kebab or Shawarma which beat every burger in taste and amount of food

    Man, I miss doner kababs so much. I haven’t quite found anything similar back stateside.

    Crass_Spektakel,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    A buddy came over here and fell totally for Turkish and Arab food in Germany. Seriously he started to sell Kebab and Döner on the US West Coast and got ludicrous rich. His trick, he doesn’t use Turkish or Arab names for his food. He sells it as “Yummy Wraps” and other fancy names and people stood half around the block to buy it.

    lntl,

    McDonald’s is a waste of time

    unphazed,

    I occasionally buy Chik Fil A (even though they’re assholes), and they cost just as mucj as McDs and are far better. I prefer KFC though (fam hates it).

    CaptainPedantic,

    Chil-Fil-A is a Y’all Queda owned restaurant that serves dry, mediocre chicken sandwiched between crappy bread.

    Their only notable contribution is managing to destroy traffic for blocks around their stupid restaurants.

    MagicShel,

    I don’t eat there for a bunch of reasons, not the least of which is it’s a twenty minute drive and then a twenty minute wait in line to get it. But I couldn’t name a better fast food spicy chicken sandwich. Wendy’s is the only place close, I think, although I feel like their quality has really gone down over the past twenty years.

    Which isn’t to defend Chick-fil-A (seriously, I don’t like their politics), but just express my curiosity about where you’re getting better ones because it has to be franchises that aren’t around here (not near a major population center) and I want to keep my eyes open when I travel.

    CaptainPedantic,

    I must’ve gotten leftovers or something because the 2 times I’ve been dragged to that establishment I’ve found the food to be severely overrated.

    unphazed,

    Honestly when I want a chicken sandwich I get Aldi redbag chicken with some pickle juice and their Ciabatta buns… better than Chik

    MagicShel,

    Will try, thanks!

    ohlaph,

    McDonald’s is absolute garbage.

    Duamerthrax,

    There’s faster food for less and better food for the same price. There’s no point unless you’re traveling.

    aesthelete,

    It’s really the food of last resort. Most times if that’s the only option I’ll just wait until I’m somewhere more civilized with better options.

    Honytawk,

    I’ve had gas station sushi that was better on the road

    Duamerthrax,

    I’ve had a Wawa hotdog that gave me the shits. Point is that McD and other chain fast food is a known while traveling.

    electric_nan,

    If you have an alternative to McDonalds and you still eat McDonalds anyway, get some self-respect.

    FabledAepitaph,

    It’s easy to tolerate price increases on products when you don’t buy that product. The thing that concerns me though, is that if people stop buying McDonald’s and instead buy canned beans… is my chili going to get more expensive because McDonald’s wants 3 dollar hash browns? I’m pretty sure the answer is yes.

    Kase,

    Pro tip, if you have access to a stove and several hours of free time to spare for cooking-- dry beans are super cheap!

    e1219,

    Getting an Instant Pot was my game changer for dry beans.

    FabledAepitaph,

    It’s truuuuee. I actually cooked my first pot of dry beans in a crock pot over the course of like 8 hours the other week, and it was very satisfying.

    Churbleyimyam,

    Extra pro tip: put them in a bowl or pan of boiling water the night before to make them cook quicker the next day. Extra extra pro tip put bicarbonate of soda in the water to make them cook quicker.

    LordArtoria,

    You can also soak them in the fridge for 24 hours to rehydrate them if you want a more passive way to prep them.

    bss03,

    An InstantPot (or other pressure cooker) can cut that time down quite a bit. I set mine on 40 minutes, but it takes a little while to get up to temp/pressure at the start and at least 15 minutes to slow/natural release the pressure at the end.

    Still, dry beans to food in about an hour is great! Also much easier to control your sodium intake, it that’s a concern.

    Wh33lz,

    Not sure what I would do or how I made it before I got my Instant pot. Amazing little kitchen gadget.

    AdolfSchmitler,

    They won’t tho. If these people could just buy other things they would have already imo. I stopped going to McD’s when their prices got to high for me. That’s why they’re making a big stink about it, because they still want McD’s but don’t want to pay so much.

    wildwhitehorses,

    No Macdonalds is making a stink because it’s now cheaper to make foods at home for their core demographic -poor people. The article says they will drop some food prices accordingly.

    jeremyparker,

    I used to take my kids out to McDonald’s for a quick bite - it was easy, food-allergy safe, and cheap – but now it’s the same price as the local burger place so fuck mcd

    Churbleyimyam,

    Just think of all the hundreds of millions of people who won’t be affected by this because they refuse to eat at MacDonald’s regardless of their prices.

    FartsWithAnAccent,
    FartsWithAnAccent avatar

    Just uh... don't eat there?

    doingless,

    It’s the most convenient restaurant around the corner from my home but I stopped going there.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not many places open when 2nd shift closes.

    And yes, there’s food at home or in the lunchbox, but sometimes home is 40 minutes away and you already ate lunch 5 hours prior.

    shalafi,

    What happens if you go 6-hours without food?

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I see what you’re trying to do.

    Attempt this with physically demanding labor.

    Splitting hairs doesn’t Invalide my original point. Being contrarian by default doesn’t make you clever.

    feedum_sneedson,

    Yeah, I get low blood sugar and can’t think or use my limbs properly. Although I always carry food with me for this reason.

    SoylentBlake,

    [Hang with me a sec and it’ll become clear, I promise]

    Casino dealers get a break every 90-120min that they have to take (barring short staffing event outliers). Being a croupier is not what most would call physically demanding, when contrasted to, idk, framing. But it’s mentally exhausting.

    Just so everyone’s at the same understanding, in yr average 2000cal day, the brain burns 1200 of those calories. All your physical exertion burns the last 800cal. So some muscles are more energy intensive than others.

    Casinos did the science and found that people are cost effective, more or less good to go, with 90min of engaging mental exertion. Think arithmetic, not calculus. After 90 mistakes become more expensive then giving the person a 20 min break to let their brain clear out cortisol or lactic acid.

    That means there’s about a 2hr buffer of ATP in the body before we start slipping.

    Don’t deny workers their calories. It’s bad all around, for all parties.

    (Fantastic last lines, btw)

    theangryseal,

    This is my life. Home is 45 minutes away. I pull into McDonald’s praying, “Please let it be fresh, oh lord. Please. I haven’t eaten since 8:00 AM, it’s 10:30 PM now. I don’t want to gag it down. Please Buddha, Krishna, Allah, Jesus of Nazareth! Please!”

    I open the wrapper, it’s dry and cold, or it’s fresh but the dude cooking it decided I wanted a whole brick of salt on it, or they decided, “Hey, these onions are better than those! Fuck consistency! They want it like I want it! With different onions and 40 pickles!”

    I’m about to try to find tv dinners that taste good or something. I legit starve sometimes because I literally can’t eat it.

    It’s the only restaurant that’s open on my way home.

    asteriskeverything,

    Hi!! If you live in an area that has trader Joe’s they have some fantastic TV dinners! I’ve enjoyed any pasta I’ve tried and they have various frozen chicken like Kung pow and orange chicken, with sauce on the side so you could also just use it for the protein and mix up seasoning and dishes!

    theangryseal,

    We have a Walmart, that’s it.

    Rural hell.

    asteriskeverything,

    Fuck dude yeah I’m sorry. There are always a few frozen things that can be doable… having an air fryer can make a big difference with some of the frozen type stuff like taquitos, fries, frozen burritos, anything you would be too lazy to put in an oven even though you know it would taste better.

    But really the lesson is this shit is fucked up and there shouldn’t some people who have to come up with creative ideas just to feed themselves

    unphazed,

    Soups in a soup thermos (get the steel good ohes, dont cheap out), shit stays warm for 8+ hours. I lived on that shit working security.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    “Please let it be fresh, oh lord. Please. I haven’t eaten since …"

    Wow, I really felt that lament.

    Alexstarfire,

    You got McD’s but no TB?

    theangryseal,

    Well, I’m sure McDonald’s will give me tuberculosis eventually, but other than that I don’t even know what TB is. I live in Appalachia. We have nothing.

    zalgotext,

    TB is Taco Bell

    theangryseal,

    I’m an idiot haha.

    TheIllustrativeMan,

    I’m about to try to find tv dinners that taste good or something. I legit starve sometimes because I literally can’t eat it.

    Impossible has some vegi-based microwave dinners that are about $6 a pop at Walmart, and are absolutely fantastic. The “chicken” ones are a bit high on the sugar content though.

    brbposting,

    :(

    Ever asked for it fresh / cooked to order? Easier in the restaurant, but in the drive through you can mention you don’t mind parking and waiting. If unsuccessful, you can politely get more elaborate with the request: “I know I’ll have to park since dropping the fries and cooking the burger to order will take some time, but I don’t mind at all. Just as long as it’s fresh, please!”

    Fries w/o salt would let you control that variable on your own as well.

    Your mileage will certainly vary but cold McD is really barely worth paying for. Scalding hot McD is harder to knock: e.g. they bully suppliers into giving them quality long Russets for their fries.

    SoylentBlake,

    Order the meat without salt too. They all season on the flattop so it’ll force them to make fresh.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yes! Make life harder for service workers!!

    SoylentBlake,

    I’ve done the job, I know exactly how much work I’m asking for for 90secs under a clamshell. The reality is there’s too much salt on the food anyway, take it up with the boss dictating not the consumer looking to minimize damage to their health.

    whalebiologist,

    knowing you live somewhere with limited options, rather than yoke your health and well being to a single fast food restaurant, consider that this is the time to learn how to cook, store, and prepare your own food. Even a humble peanut butter and jelly sandwich can come in clutch in this situation, and all you have to do is make it ahead of time. You eat 2-3 meals a day every day. It’s okay to eat simple things, not every meal has to be special.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah but when you are working 12 hour days, not counting the commute, sometimes you don’t want to be constructive at home. You want to enjoy your freedom.

    aesthelete,

    when you are working 12 hour days

    You want to enjoy your freedom.

    Man, there’s no freedom in working 12 hour days. Hats off to you I guess but that’s not any kind of freedom at all.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I was referring to the time I wasn’t clocked in.

    I’m glad you have other options. Not everyone does. My friend who currently works at Ford does so because he took custody of his nephew when his worthless brother went to jail.

    He has no choice but to work and provide.

    People are a kaleidoscope. There are a multitude of reasons one would take a job, and to so whimsically brush that notion aside is intellectually irresponsible

    andros_rex,

    People are a kaleidoscope.

    Yea! This discussion always dives into “oh well you can live off oats and beans!” There’s so many assumptions about space to cook, storage options, time… I quit my full time and my food budget has gone down quite a bit, because I have time to make these things. If you work multiple jobs and live in a tiny space, rice and beans aren’t always that practical.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Plus… I’m not eating instant mashed potatoes and Ramen noodles while driving my car home.

    And I’m not staying at work even later to sit there and eat that poor excuse of a meal

    SoylentBlake,

    When I had that commute I would buy boxes of clifbars and power bars that permanently populated my glovebox. Trail mix in Adams peanut butter jars. Flavored oatmeal with raisins in old jam jars, just grab a cup of boiling water on your way out and pour it in. See also, instant mash potatoes, stuffing, ramen (adding boiling water to ramen and just waiting for it to be ready is the only way I like it now). That was the best idea I ever had before a multi day road trip, please use it.

    If anyone has ideas to add to that, I’m all ears. Or any other food-from-home non-shopping ideas (like eating potato salad with Tims salt and vinegar chips, bombdotcom)

    Katana314,

    From what I’ve seen, clif bars are more expensive than I’d like to frequently pay, and they’re not a very satisfying meal - probably not even so nutritious.

    DadVolante,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m not referring to my current situation. I’m adding context to their question.

    I’m fully aware that someone can put stuff like that in their car.

    However, when I was working in a factory til 11 pm, I don’t want cliff bars and peanut butter.

    I understand what you’re saying. Not everyone has those options, whether you want to believe it or not.

    People are a kaleidoscope. There is no single way to live or fix your problems. This is information I hope you too can use.

    SoylentBlake,

    I’m glad he not in this situation now and for sure, sometimes you just need protein and want something hot, I get it.

    When I was in that situation there were def days when I’d hit up Jack in box, with my very specific order, knowing 100% full well that I could do this once a week and not go into the red. I tried to avoid it, but sometimes the body wants what it wants.

    And absolutely, I wasn’t adding to offer an end all solution, nor do I think one exists, just to elucidate other options for either yourself, but mainly for posterity and those who potentially stumble upon this down the way

    I think we all might do well to assume our internetting will outlive us, which no one could really know and I doubt it will, but it might and I think pascals wager here might be prudent, but that’s just one of many takes im sure.

    kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Inflation and wage theft are absolutely out of control in this country. I’m a barista. My store makes $1600 in a eight-hour day. Mine and all of my coworker’s wage in there probably adds up to about $50/hour on average. So the profit margin is ridiculous. And these businesses have the gall to think they can make MORE MONEY. No, fuck you. At some point the human beings doing the hard work need to get a bigger cut.

    FarmTaco,

    make sure you count utilities and rent for the building and supplies etc, its still ridiculous but slightly less so

    Jode,

    Not to mention one of those la marcozzo espresso machines cost like 40k

    kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah of course there are operating expenses, but you have these same companies buying the lowest quality equipment and products they can get away with as well. It’s inexcusable.

    Got_Bent,

    And franchise fees. They take a percentage of gross. I really don’t know why anybody gets involved with that stuff.

    PraiseTheSoup,

    ngl if you think being a barista is hard work you’ve never really worked hard

    kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s brutal. More draining than any other retail job I’ve worked, and I’ve been in warehouses, unloaded trucks. Especially near a airport or hospital some locations do business NONSTOP. And the customers? FIENDING for sugar and caffeine in the form of some obscure, brand new tiktok hack that uses ingredients we probably don’t have in stock and is made the total opposite of how a reasonable person would want it. It’s like any other job, a lot of people DO put in hard work and most of those get nowhere but burned out.

    assassin_aragorn,

    Thank you for what you do. On top of that there’s cultivating the place’s atmosphere, which isn’t easy. I used to do homework and study at coffee shops all the time in college

    kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Right back atcha - atmosphere is SO important to the higher-ups, and it really is a big challenge to maintain given the low pay, early mornings, demanding customers and scammy, if all-too-normalized business practices.

    assassin_aragorn,

    It’s one of the few times I’ll agree with a higher-up’s priorities. There’s a very significant difference between a fast, bustling coffee shop atmosphere and a laid back one. The former makes me think of an airport or mall kiosk – or most Starbucks, honestly. You go in, you get your drink, you get out.

    The laid back, homey atmosphere is definitely my favorite though. That’s where you can actually catch up with friends or play a board game, read a book, or get homework/work/studying done.

    And a big part of that is you guys. It’s a nice surprise when a barista at the place I usually go to recognizes me and knows what I want to order. Or they’ll strike up a conversation or tell me that technically, the butterbeer latte can be ordered year round.

    You guys are some of my favorite people :). Don’t let haters talk you down.

    EssentialCoffee,

    Ah yes, let’s start belittling people so that the working class continues to infight. Thank you for your contributions to the rich.

    FabledAepitaph,

    I’ve literally worked in the oil field throwing pipe wrenches around, and it was usually easier than what I see some food service employees putting up with lol

    hardcoreufo,

    I’ve worked a lot of jobs. I much preferred moving furniture and pulling carpet to my work as a barista. It’s still a physical job where you are on your feet all day but with the added stress of dealing with entitled customers.

    Now that I’ve moved on dealing with other humans is still the worst part of my job. Leave me alone and let me fix shit and I’m happy.

    MrsDoyle,

    What most irritates me about this - plus layoffs to increase profits- is that the corporate numbnuts overlook the fact that every employee they stiff is a customer. Everyone is someone’s customer. A customer who has a shrinking amount of disposable income to spend on white goods, new clothes, eating out etc. They think hurrah, with AI we’ll be able to sack our creatives! Next thing they’re whining because there are so many homeless people on the streets. There’s a link! It’s exasperating.

    TengoDosVacas,

    McDs is one of a handful of optuons I have so I cant really boycott; however, today I found a dastardly trick: the order kiosks suddenly switched medium and large so you will accidentally order the large size. Almost got me, but not quite

    herescunty,

    That’s the McConomy

    (badum tsst)

    oxjox,
    @oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

    This is how supply and demand and inflation are supposed to work. Prices get inflated because the supply is low and the demand is high. We’re now at the tipping point where the market is saying it’s too much. We should have been saying it was too much, via our wallets, years ago.

    Cry all you want about corporate greed but it’s largely unregulated so the supply for their wallet still counts as supply. If you’re still paying for it, they’re going to keep raising the prices. What’s something worth? What someone will pay for it.

    Why is beef still expensive? Because people keep buying it. marketplace.org/…/if-inflation-slowed-down-in-202…

    Corkyskog,

    It’s not supply being low, it’s about captured markets via strategic regulation chokes.

    I can literally buy a half pallet of hasbrowns for less than 4 or 5 trips to the family at McD. I just am not going to invest in a fryer…

    deur,

    The worst part is a fryer is the cost of 4-6 value meals or 20 hashbrowns on the low end.

    wunami,
    @wunami@lemmy.world avatar

    Air fryer works extremely well for hash browns and tater tots.

    Corkyskog,

    Air fryer is GOAT. You can cook anything in there, even regular old chicken comes out delicious.

    lagomorphlecture, (edited )

    Bruh mine is not the basket style, it’s like a mini oven that includes a convection oven feature. I can bake a pizza and it’s so much more convenient I’ve been making these ridiculously healthy but delicious bran muffins every week lol

    Edit: muffin recipe

    2 ripe mashed bananas

    1 chopped apple

    Flax egg (1 tbsp ground flax, 2.5 tbsp water, mix and let set while you prepare the other ingredients)

    1 tbsp avocado oil

    1/4 C oat or soy milk

    1 tsp vanilla

    1/4 cup unsweetened apple sauce

    1 C whole wheat flour

    1 C wheat bran

    1tsp baking soda

    1 tsp baking powder

    1/4 tsp salt

    1 tsp cinnamon

    1/3 cup chopped walnuts

    You can sub oat bran for wheat bran if you can find anyone selling it.

    1. Preheat oven to 350 (or don’t if using a convection oven)
    2. Lightly spray muffin tin with avocado oil
    3. Add banana, oil, milk, vanilla, applesauce, flax egg into mixing bowl and stir well.
    4. Add dry ingredients plus chopped apple to another bowl and mix well. Don’t add walnuts at this step.
    5. Add dry ingredients to the wet ingredients and stir until combined. Add extra applesauce or milk if it’s a little dry.
    6. Add to muffin pan in 12 equal portions. Add walnuts to the top and press them in a little or they’ll fall off when the muffins are done.
    7. Bake 20 minutes or until a toothpick inserted into the center of a muffin comes out clean.
    8. Cool for a few minutes before removing from pan.
    Buddahriffic,

    If it fits in my air fryer/toaster oven, I’ll use that instead of the main oven. It’s great, I reduce the suggested time by 25% and don’t even have to preheat it for food to come out cooked right.

    zalgotext,

    Yo, you wanna drop a recipe for those bran muffins?

    lagomorphlecture,

    Lol I’ll do that in the morning, way too tired right now. I didn’t think anyone would be interested in my by bran muffins but me. This is exciting!

    zip,

    I am also looking forward to your brand muffin recipe! I have the same type of air fryer oven thing, I love it!

    lagomorphlecture,

    I edited the original comment to add the muffin recipe.

    lagomorphlecture,

    I edited the original comment to add the muffin recipe.

    zalgotext,

    Thanks dawg, you the real mvp

    lagomorphlecture,

    You’re welcome!

    eerongal,
    @eerongal@ttrpg.network avatar

    Fwiw - an air fryer and a convection oven are basically the same thing. In fact, “air fryer” is just a renamed and shrunk down convection oven for branding/sales purposes.

    My air fryer is an air fryer microwave combo, and it has the ability to turn on the air fryer and the microwave at the same time, which is an amazing feature.

    You can cook food like a frozen lasagna in it, and it comes out like you cooked it in the oven in something like 1/3rd the time.

    lagomorphlecture,

    I knew the air fryer is a convection oven but I didn’t know there were microwaves that had one. That sounds amazing.

    SkippingRelax,

    You air fryer people are becoming worse than vegans /s

    Alexstarfire,

    You could probably cook those in a toaster.

    FarFarAway,

    They sell mini fryers for under $100. I was gifted one that I never use because one liter of oil, is one liter too many.

    Corkyskog,

    The “investment” is not purely about the initial cost. It’s about buying oil and either having to chill it between uses and clean the machine or using it almost daily. The less you use a fryer the more time it takes to use, and if your using it constantly that just means your constantly eating like shit. The fact of the matter is I don’t need a fryer and I don’t actually need a hashbrown.

    oxjox,
    @oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

    You’re going to have to explain this to me better. What “market” is being captured by what strategic regulation chokes?

    Crashumbc,

    Around here I can get shrimp cheaper than most beef, if I hit a good sale…

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