How do I get informed on Joe Rogan without watching his videos.

I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

FoundTheVegan, (edited )
FoundTheVegan avatar

I think you need to take a few steps back and really think about what you are asking. If your husband is a fan and regular listener to a source you are so adamant against, that even giving him a view is a concern, then do you and your husband have the same values?

I am so sorry to say this but your post is just littered with red flags. Sis, he isn't hard to argue with, the man just doesn't care what you think. If he did why isn't this a discussion and not an argument where he shuts you/your concerns down? I would say that making yourself informed about the specifics of Joe Rogan matters more than his view count going up by 1. But frankly, you probably aren't going to like anything you hear (Because Rogan is a pig who washes conspiracies/bigotry as "just debate lol"). But since your husband knows you won't approve, that is why he is brushing you off.

This sounds like a really rough position to be in. I've been there with some of my past relationships so I am sending you all the warmth and strength I can muster! Big hugs!

alokir,

So many assumptions based on so little information.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

You’re right! Rogan and his Nazi allies totally do that!

ImplyingImplications,

I get the sense that your concerns aren’t who your husband watches but what your husband’s opinions are.

Instead of debating over what Rogan says, maybe just have a conversation with your husband about your concerns. Express your thoughts on issues important to you and see how that goes. Maybe your husband just likes the drama and doesn’t put much weight into Rogan’s hot takes.

Drewelite,

The real answer. Everyone is different, can’t really judge a person’s views by who they watch. I know people that watch a lot of Fox because they want to know what kind of crap they’re spreading.

player2,

This is good advice! I listened to his podcast for a little while because I was interested in a particular guest and I wanted to hear what the guest had to say, not what Rogan thought. I found a few other guests I liked but I quickly stopped listening because Rogan always makes interviews about his interests and it grew old.

PapaStevesy,

Just watch Tim Heidecker’s parody episode from his show Office Hours, it’s quite accurate.

AlteredStateBlob,
AlteredStateBlob avatar

Excuse me, why is this an 12 hour video?

PapaStevesy,

Lol, that’s just one more Rogan jab. It’s only 90 minutes I think, then looped over and over.

massive_bereavement,
massive_bereavement avatar

It's free real estate.

mikeboltonshair,

Don’t kid yourself, you “giving” him a few views isn’t gonna make any difference, taking a principled stance on it is like peeing in the ocean.

Just watch a few of his videos or listen to some of his podcasts, instead of letting other people give your their viewpoint on him just get your own viewpoint, do it without any bias either… pick an episode that you are interested in pick something you don’t agree with and pick something that could go either way. You might agree with some stuff and not other things but at least you determined that for yourself

I used to listen to his podcast but lost interest plus I’d only listen to the stuff I had any interest in, science and technology stuff. He had some odd views/stuff I didn’t agree with but that’s living in reality you aren’t always gonna agree with people.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

Ignore this, OP - this is classic cryptofascist bullshit. “Give it an honest, unbiased chance! I used to like it - but not the Nazi stuff! Which doesn’t exist, btw”

Yeah, Joe Rohan is a fascist. Don’t give him views and don’t believe anyone who talks like this about him, as they are also a fascist.

UnderwaterSwift,

Just curious, how are you defining fascist? Is Bernie Sanders a fascist for going on Joe Rogan? Lmao

mikeboltonshair,

If the OP was looking for someone’s opinion on Joe Rogan to argue on the internet with some rando then sure don’t waste your time or energy or give Joe Rogan any clicks (once again he already makes enough money so your principled non click doesn’t mean shit but anyway) but it’s concerning her cuz her husband likes him… so ya maybe go a little above and beyond for your significant other.

I never told OP to give Joe Rogan a chance I said to listen to him to see what her husband likes about him so she can form her own views on him and possibly understand what’s appealing to her husband about him or not, she can listen to him and think he’s a total shitstain… but pretty sure you actually have to listen to people to determine what they are all about… unless you have zero friends I’m not sure how you have met anyone with this amazing line of logic.

OP should ignore jackasses like you who tell her what to think. And because I’ve listened to some Joe Rogan podcasts that makes me a facsist? Lmao get the fuck off the internet for a few hours you are on this shit way too much. Saying that, OP could also ignore what I’m saying too since she can choose to do whatever she wants instead of being a mindless clown that listens to terminally online ass sniffers throwing around words like they are verbal diarrhea…

HobbitFoot,

Johnny Harris has a good video: youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=ckqeiEdfaknWnBeu

But if you want to debate your husband on what he sees, you’re going to need to get a good idea of the guest. The problem with Joe Rogan is that Rogan does very little pushback as an interviewer.

There was one interview that I watched with Mel Gibson touting a stem cell cure-all treatment being given out in Panama and making claims about it helping to cure anything. That treatment was beginning to undergo Phase 2 FDA trials, which basically meant they were studying to see if it would kill people, not what benefits the drug had.

If you are going to debate, ask for a non-Rogan source to back him up. It will at least get your husband to start fact checking. And if your husband asks why you need a second source, you can tell him that Rogan describes himself as an idiot.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I’m sorry, but you are going to let someone else interpret what Rogan is saying for you, so you don’t have to watch his videos?

All you are doing is copying that person’s opinion about Rogan if you do that.

Watch the videos. Be an adult. Think for yourself.

Aghast,

One good way to get an understanding is to watch the summary of Joe Rogan that Johnny Harris, a YouTube journalist did.

While it won’t give you a summary of each episode that Joe Rogan does it will give you an unbiased look at what Joe Rogan’s program is all about

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Unbiased? Because a journalist is doing it, or how do you figure it’s unbiased?

Aghast,

A fair question.

I view him as unbiased because he doesn’t promote Joe Rogan but also doesn’t dismiss the the good aspects of Joe Rogan. He views Joe Rogan as nuanced as he should.

Johnny Harris didn’t rush to label him Joe Rogan as horrible or great.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I’d just find the comedy special from many years ago where he told his audience that “I’m not an expert in anything except smoking weed. I’m a moron. I don’t know anything. Nobody should listen to me or take me seriously.”

That bit on stage is the first thing I ever think of whenever his name is mentioned these days, since he didn’t even take his own God damn advice.

Spiracle,
Spiracle avatar

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen several different clips where he repeats the same "I’m a moron" spiel.

While I have only watched what few clips came my way, I was under the impression that was the entire point of his podcast: Invite interesting* people, then validating them in discussion by agreeing to most of their takes regardless of how bizarre they are so that they freely speak of their topic.

*wherein "interesting" is usually something from the categories of fringe beliefs (often conspiracies), drugs, culturally influential people, or experts on whatever is a big topic for his viewership at the time.

Many of the experts are also those of the fringe belief kind.


Basically, if you take Rogan’s views significantly more seriously than the beliefs of your local meth head, you are doing it wrong.

FeelzGoodMan420,

A divorce would probably be less painful than acrually watching Joe Rogan videos.

Hegar,
Hegar avatar

You can also read into some of the very easily disprovable professional morons that appear on show. Jordan Peterson is a great example because he's obviously wrong in a very well researched area.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

When it comes to psychology, I think Peterson has a lot of valuable insights.

When it comes to anything else I just wish he would shut his mouth.

That combination of feelings really sums up a lot of Joe’s guests.

can,

Some of the videos on this channel may give you some insights.

Like this one about how he can dish it out but can’t take it.

EdanGrey,

Thankyou for those that gave constructive answers and didn’t assume anything about my relationship

elouboub,
elouboub avatar

Watch it with him and discuss the video afterwards. No matter how many people sit in front of a screen, it counts as one view.

OceanSoap,

This. Watching them yourself is really the only way to go. Anyone else you watch to get info on him is highly likely to be either biased towards or against him and will be giving you incorrect information.

Baahb,

Sorta the problem with the joe Rogan podcast is that Joe doesn’t have an agenda, but every guest he has on does. Some folks think that platforming scumbags and allowing them to say awful things isn’t cool, and therefore refuse to go on the show, which means fewer same people and more insane. This then repeats until only insane guests are in the show.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

Way to blame the people who don’t want to help platform Nazis.

devz0r,

When has Rogan platformed Nazis?

thedirtyknapkin,

he definitely puts his own agenda into his show. like, with COVID, he only invited guests with one opinion. he picked the anecdotes and every part of the show that wasn’t pure interview. he very very clearly and strongly wanted to push that vaccines are bad and COVID is overblown. that was not a guest doing that.

sloppy_diffuser,

Only segment of his show I ever saw was Bill Burr calling him a Knuckle Scrapper when masks were brought up, lol.

justastranger,

He does have an agenda now, though it’s not a political one. It’s the chasing of those strokes to his ego that his alt-right audience gives him every time he says something they like.

Baahb,

I mean that’s fair. It may not even be ego, might be money. But the point stands either way.

psmgx,

wouldnt be the first time hard right wingers were found out to be only in it for the money. tucker carlson’s leaked texts and emails come to mind. or all of ann culters college law papers that were pretty moderate. grift the rubes, never fails.

Jackthelad,

What’s there to be concerned about?

I don’t watch/listen to Joe Rogan, but it’s not like your husband is watching some Nazi propaganda.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

That is literally what he’s doing.

morphballganon,

Bad take. There are literal nazis today who take their talking points from JR.

bane_killgrind,
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