TechConnectify,

BTW, folks who think the US standard plug is scary have clearly never encountered one of our range plugs before.

(This plug is also often used for EV charging, supporting 9.6 kW continuously)

mjgraves,

@TechConnectify It's also used for RV hookups, and to connect larger portable generators for household backup power. Delivering 240 VAC @ 50A it can provide up to 12 kW.

Anigma,

@TechConnectify Every time when I see those I just love my german power outlets even more. 😅

halfbyte,

@TechConnectify is that two phase?

It does look a bit like it's cosplaying a UK plug, but I find the lack of isolation clearance very disturbing.

cassidy,
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@TechConnectify “Don’t talk to me or my son ever again…”

gentrifiedrose,

@TechConnectify That's bigger than my cat. Holy cow.

bedast,
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@TechConnectify To be fair, the 10-50 plug is that big for the current, not the voltage. There’s no reason a 15 amp version of this couldn’t be closer to the size of the smaller plug if we wanted it to be. But, typically, in the US, 240v means higher current. So need those chonky plugs.

tryst,

@TechConnectify I've come to share the good word of IEC 60309.

They come in 4kW, 8kW and 15kW, and 1 to 3 phases, and a variety of fetching colours.

kim,

@TechConnectify As a Brit I find that on a par with an old BS1363 plug without the shrouded pins (which, admittedly, I replace whenever I encounter one).

But since it's the functional equivalent of a 16A IEC 60309 Ceeform connector (ie. one that's rarely unplugged, and usually by people who know what they're doing) that doesn't bother me as much.

It looks like it does a decent job of staying attached to the socket, at least.

quixoticgeek,
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@kim @TechConnectify yikes I hadn't even noticed the lack of shroud on the pins. Does it at least have an earth before make feature?

dasos,

@TechConnectify I like my NEMA14-50P’s. Sorta like Tim Allan on the show “Tool Time” 😂 (and like the show bad things can happen 😆)

MarekKnapek,

@TechConnectify Obligatory unsolicited remainder that in Europe we have much better 380/400 Volt, 32 Amp, 12 kW, 3 phase, 5 pin plugs and sockets. For more info, search for IEC 60309 or for EN 60309.

outadoc,
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chrismarquardt,
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@TechConnectify That's what us Germans would call ‘Oschi’

captainchaos,
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@TechConnectify I like how it's designed so you can comfortably touch all four pins with your fingers while plugging it in.

mooklepticon,
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  • TechConnectify,

    @mooklepticon That's a different plug, though. You'd be using a 14-30 for a dryer, and this is a 14-50

    nobodynews,

    @TechConnectify we should call that The Patriot Plug

    X31Andy,
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    @TechConnectify I'd prefer the IEC/CEE 60309 3 phase connector. The body of the connector effectively shrouds the pins when plugging it in.

    Only issue is unless you are using an interlocked socket it is possible to pose something into the socket holes and potentially access live pins.

    arnemart,

    @TechConnectify That is horrifying

    dzwiedziu,
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    @TechConnectify
    Obligatory “it's over nine thousand!”

    crashglasshouses,

    @TechConnectify that's the standard three-phase/280V plug in canada.

    if you want to see a real big scary plug, check out the 300A SOPEX cable that professional audio sometimes use for the biggest concerts.

    two-prongs have always been a bad idea, but especially before they were polarised, and made of cheap brass. you could plug something in the wrong way and electrify the chassis.

    UK electricals are designed way better and safer, in many ways.

    epl692,

    @TechConnectify I have always found them a little unsettling... even more so once I had a toddler in the house... any plug is unsettling then. Yet to my knowlege, none of our kids have ever been shocked. And we have the new safety plugs now... not even the adults can put things in them!

    wesleyradcliffe,
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    @TechConnectify I took our range apart yesterday for the first time to clean and I just stared at that beast for 5 minutes.

    Mobile_dom,

    @TechConnectify how on earth are there not more fires in the US, damn

    TechConnectify,

    @Mobile_dom honestly, plug design is not going to affect fire risk. If anything, the conductors on this plug are oversized.

    This will give you a nasty shock if you don't hold it right when you plug it in, though

    wishy,
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    @TechConnectify @Mobile_dom most of the stuff with this sort of current carrying capacity in the UK would be hard wired (oven, hob, EVSE, electric shower). Portable high current is less common in a home, but it would be IEC if it is (design prevents fingers on contacts), and would require a mechanical interlock in non-industrial settings (connector can't be made live until a cable is firmly inserted).
    Dryers can operate on a standard 13a plug, nothing special needed.

    Mobile_dom,

    @TechConnectify i mean i guess, i just meant that the plug being so huge and those terminals being so exposed makes me think how easy it would be to make dodgy connections with bent wire and shit "temporarily" compared to the 240v32a (7.4kw) plugs we have here which are hugely overbuilt

    TechConnectify,

    @Mobile_dom eh, I figure the sort of person who is willing to do that is not going to be stopped by a better plug. They'll just take the receptacle apart

    Mobile_dom,

    @TechConnectify very fair

    deltatux,

    @TechConnectify @Mobile_dom

    Oh most definitely, these things are chonkers but must be handled with care. Preferably if you need to clean out your electric stove/range, it's always safest to turn it off at the breaker temporarily.... but you know, we're all lazy & don't do that, so one really needs to be careful.

    Denton,

    @TechConnectify I’m actually much more worried about 240v euro plugs that can pull over 2k watts, and some of them hooked up to thinner cords than my coffee machine! 😱

    I saw a melted portable a/c receptacle from someone in Europe, the amount of current that portable unit drew was comparable to my central system which has 6/8 awg wiring, but on a wall plug!

    suamme1,

    @TechConnectify At least that's the grounded version. Most of my old places have still used the three pin style. I love touching ungrounded appliances!

    billatq,

    @TechConnectify The name is a misnomer, but here’s the safe way to do this: https://quick220.com/

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