evan, (edited )
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

US residents only: which of these countries would you move to?

mnot,
@mnot@techpolicy.social avatar

@evan s/would/did/

rbos,
@rbos@mastodon.novylen.net avatar

@evan
As flawed as it is, of those choices I would stay in Canada. The Netherlands might tempt me, though.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

Interesting results. I'm not a US resident but when I was I chose Canada.

ckape,

@evan I suspect that if I actually looked into it practically my choice might be different.

Chigaze,
@Chigaze@mstdn.ca avatar

@evan I’m in Canada but if I could have voted I would have voted New Zealand. I’m sure it has it’s flaws but from here it looks like it has all the things I love in a small, compact package.

Also we’ve been watching Taskmaster New Zealand and their comedians are amazingly deranged.

andrewfeeney,
@andrewfeeney@phpc.social avatar

@evan Oof, unexpectedly harsh on Australia! Fair enough though, New Zealand and Canada both have lots of great stuff that we don’t have. UK not popular right now? Yeah, I get it.

milesizdead,
@milesizdead@mementomori.social avatar

@evan Had I voted (as a European I didn’t) I would’ve voted for Aotearoa for sure. A lovely country with friendly people.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@milesizdead thank you for complying with the unenforceable rules of the poll!

MardraS,
@MardraS@mas.to avatar

@evan because My son is an adult with Down syndrome, all of these countries say on paper they wouldn’t “take us.” We are very likely trapped here. Asterisk is that I’ve heard from real people, Canada would be difficult, but maybe possible. 😕

ItsGregory,

@evan
New Zealand- they're accepting climate change immigration status refugees Australia refused entry which speaks volumes about compassion The world needs love- each and every one of us !

dankennedy_nu,
@dankennedy_nu@journa.host avatar

@evan Any of them, although Canada would be the easiest.

empathicqubit,
@empathicqubit@dizl.de avatar

@evan
Can I recall my vote? I missed the resident bit. I already moved but I chose New Zealand because they managed to coordinate well on covid from my understanding.

Not the UK: Terf-land. Brexit. Although I've been treated nicely through the airport, at least.
Not Australia: friendlyjordies
Not Canada: Conservative party is platforming on Terf rhetoric.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@empathicqubit sure, noted.

Archnemysis,
@Archnemysis@mastodon.social avatar

@evan this one is shaping up to really surprise me. Due to proximity I expected Canada to do well, but would not have guessed New Zealand to place as high.

aeva, (edited )
@aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@evan if I moved it would have to be because I no longer felt safe here in Chicago or could no longer access trans health resources here (or possibly because it suddenly got really easy to move, but I think that's somewhat doubtful that would ever happen). Canada is the only place on the list I know would be an improvement. UK is a hell no. Idk how the other two stack up, but I don't think I want to move that far away if I can help it.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@aeva this is a good comment.

aeva,
@aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@evan

colo_lee,
@colo_lee@zirk.us avatar

@evan almost moved to the UK pre-brexit. times change ...

tanfonto,

@evan you forgot Poland

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@tanfonto I am aware that there are ~190 other countries not on this list.

tanfonto,

@evan it was supposed to be a quotation ;(

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@tanfonto oh, ha. That's a deep cut!

pthenq1,
@pthenq1@mastodon.la avatar

@evan
What about none? :awesome:

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@pthenq1 indeed, what about it?

The point of the poll is to think about moving to another country, and consider what it would entail. Maybe also thinking about what you need from the country you live in, what these countries have to offer, and what your priorities are.

There are a lot of other options besides these four choices: none of them, all of them, don't move, move somewhere else, die, upload mind to a computer, move to space.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@pthenq1 Choosing from the constrained list can be helpful for creative thinking. People who want to order off the menu are welcome to just reply. But I only get four slots in my polls, so I try to get maximum optionality within a small set of choices.

I hope that helps!

SeumanOtwal,
@SeumanOtwal@vivaldi.net avatar

@evan — None of the above.

bluecanary3,

@evan moving to Sweden!

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@bluecanary3 nice! What will you do there?

bluecanary3,

@evan Be retired!

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@bluecanary3 hells yeah

mattb,
@mattb@hachyderm.io avatar

@evan This needs a 'show me the results' button for non residents.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@mattb no

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@evan Is this a trap? Those are all part of the Commonwealth.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar
aaron,

@evan I’m currently working on convincing my, US based multinational tech company, to transfer me to the London office.

Anikka_Duka,

@evan Canada is ok. But it seems like American right wing is infecting Canada. Thus, I preferred to avoid any place with MAGA influence. New Zealand seems to be less right wing crap.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@Anikka_Duka that's an incorrect impression of Canada.

Anikka_Duka,

@evan That’s good. I was listening to America political commentators talking about right wing movements in Canada.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@Anikka_Duka maybe American political commentators are not the people you should listen to about Canadian politics.

They're going to be focused on American politics, and they'll see the rest of the world through that lens.

You can instead read about it yourself from Wikipedia or from Canadian sources. One of our official languages is English, so there's a lot to read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Canada

gwhilts,
@gwhilts@xoxo.zone avatar

@evan

All of the above? None of the above? It all depends. U.K. politics isn't exactly what it could be, but its proximity to Europe is very appealing. As far as Canada goes are we talking about Vancouver? (in a heartbeat) Montreal? (Sure) Toronto? (Okay) Winnipeg? (Brrr.) Lethbridge? (Hard pass) Similar questions re Oz and NZ.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@gwhilts so, yeah, the point of these polls is that you do all this math in your head, think it through, and then come up with an answer for yourself and push the button.

evan, (edited )
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@gwhilts if you're sharing your thought process, fine. It helps me a lot if you say that, though. Right now it sounds like you want me to make a 200-page form for every town and village in these countries and others, under various circumstances, which is a ridiculous request.

aeisenberg,
@aeisenberg@cosocial.ca avatar

@evan too late. Moved from the US to Canada 21 years ago. Every day I’m grateful that I made the move when I did.

jessamyn,
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@evan I would move to any of them but Canada would be the easiest one to do without having to get on an airplane. Or leave my friends very far behind.

skyfaller,
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@evan I voted Canada, because:

  • I've been there, it seems fine, despite suffering from some of the same problems as the US
  • I should be able to travel to and from the USA by train, or theoretically by bicycle. Pretty important since I refuse to use airplanes (or cars), and I'd want to see my family in the US.

I think I might like NZ better than Canada, but I've never been, and it would mean leaving everything and everyone I've ever known on a more permanent basis.

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    @evan
    I voted UK, even though it is also a complete dumpster fire, because I have citizenship there already. 🙁

    BalooUriza,

    @evan Australia is Oceania's Oklahoma. Change my mind.

    evan,
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    @BalooUriza thank you for the cw and congrats on your awesome server domain name.

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