aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

A timely reminder that “punishable by fine” means “legal for the rich.”

amd,

@aral Example: I once knew a VC who would take the HOV lane when alone and just pay the couple of tickets a year they got for violating the rules. They believed the time savings accrued by staying out of traffic was worth the fine.

aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

@amd A VC, you say. How shocking.

kkarhan,
wraptile,
@wraptile@fosstodon.org avatar

@aral Unless the fine is adjusted to your wealth. Like the news from Finland where dudes get multi-million euro fines for speeding lol

allenstenhaus,

@aral The only fine this wouldn't entirely apply to would be one based on a percentage of net worth.

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@aral

but do we want to lock up people that aren't dangerous? all the options suck. maybe fines that vary by wealth?

CP93,
@CP93@mstdn.social avatar

@aral
“Guilty until proven wealthy”

cowvin,

@aral What you do is fine if you can pay this much.

BillySmith,
@BillySmith@social.coop avatar

@aral

Only if the fine is a fixed amount. :D

In Finland parking fines are a percentage of your yearly income, so the more money you earn, the more you pay. :D

xahteiwi,
@xahteiwi@mastodon.social avatar
Aviva_Gary,
@Aviva_Gary@noc.social avatar

@aral word

revolt3d,

@aral that Fox News, supposedly a news org and no one makes money on the news, can cough up $787 million and not be ruined is wrong.

RD4Anarchy,
@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social avatar
Susan_Larson_TN,
@Susan_Larson_TN@mastodon.online avatar

@aral All fines should automatically increase or reduce based on the target's financial means — a 10$ fine for a poor person should be thousands of dollars for the middle class, and millions of dollars for the rich, billions for corporations.

AdrianRiskin,
@AdrianRiskin@kolektiva.social avatar

@aral

Just as before the US civil war it meant "legal for white people" since punishments for Black people meant whippings, mutilations, and murders. In many cases the laws are unchanged apart from subbing in jail time for brutality.

lispi314,

@aral Asset-proportional fines would fix that.

JJPeterson,

@aral this wasn’t a fine. But ok.

rachel_maria65,

@aral 👀

angelmountain,
@angelmountain@mas.to avatar

@aral fines are not the issue, it's just that amounts for fines should be relative to income/wealth, not an absolute number.

mcole,

@aral unless your lesislature fines per means such as Finland

buru5,
minervakoenig,
@minervakoenig@mastodon.social avatar

@aral it's almost like they hoarded resources precisely for this purpose

Kitai,

@aral nothing has changed. This is from 1764.

bloodravenlib,
@bloodravenlib@mas.to avatar
marchuff,

@aral thinking about it rich pay fines poor go to jail. THEY BOTH PAY ...

marchuff,

@aral OH, I AGREE one hundred percent aral but look what the internet is giving us. TRUMP COMMITTED crimes his whole live but now in advanced social media with platforms he's like doesn't need to campaign he can just do rally's when he's in town being indicted deposed or at trial. FOXNEWS MOST POWERFUL MAN IN WORLD BOOM, elon musk forced to buy twitter 44 billion. alex jones one billion. INTERNET HAS NOW AND COURT THE RICH ON NOTICE. derek chauvin 30 years.

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