@retr0id crypto-scum are dirtbags but they do offer one piece of wisdom, that is if you don't control the keys you don't own jack. Control your own keys never trust anyone else.
@SecurityWriter@retr0id easier is indeed my primairy reason to do anything to do with security. Better yet, don't encrypt at all. No hacker will expect that powermove, and will think the data is worthless!
@saagar@signalapp@retr0id Even then I'd say this is flaky at best, since one can't really evidence that to be the case if tuere's neither FLOSS clients nor Server implementatioms to test against...
What's the point of an #anonymizing#messenger if they - in clear violation of #GDPR & #BDSG - conmect that to a #PhomeNumber which im more juristictions than ever can't be obtained anonymously in.any legal capacity???
@kkarhan@retr0id@signalapp Well, if you use Molly, you're basically using Signal fork built from source w/o proprietary blobs that's usable with the official Signal server. Then all you need to do, is to match the security number with your peer.
Dude, each time I am looking at the #signal hashtag I see a message from you ranting about it. I think you can relax and pick another fight. What about Google for example, you surely have things to point about them, don't you?
@kkarhan@retr0id@signalapp Agree. That's why I use @element for my daily conversations. It's just that my reason to avoid Signal is not bad encryption.
End-to-end encrypted
Open source
Federated
Self hosted
No required linkable identifiers (and no Signal's recent announcement on them hiding phone numbers doesn't even count.)
Good messaging alternatives include:
Matrix. XMPP, Briar, SimpleX
I recommend #XMPP - #OMEMO for most users [#Gajim and #monoclesChat are excellent clients for that!] but if you are an organization then consider #Zulip and if you already have a #Mailserver and use #PGP / MIME then @delta / #DeltaChat may be a good option [tho I'd recommend using a seperate eMail account for that!]...
@kkarhan@joeo10@anedroid@retr0id Don't forget the fake foundation ("Matrix Foundation") which is now apparently just Element the for-profit start-up (previously they were technically two different things).
It rubs me on all the wrong ends, whereas I can at least understand it when #Zulip does put some #Enterprise-y stuff behind a paywall but actually has a #FLOSS license to their product.
And unlike #Discord it's not a #centralized shit they host with #VC money on #aws, #GCP or whatever but instead you can #SelfHost and even write your own client because it has an actual #API...
@joeo10@kkarhan@retr0id@signalapp@element I already use SimpleX. I like it for reliable audio calls, no need to create account (and so choosing your username and storing your credentials somewhere). It's like an unlimited phone number generator with end-to-end encryption.
@kkarhan@anedroid@retr0id@signalapp you have completely pivoted your point yet signal has its downsides but signals number 1 biggest strength is you can definitely trust its encryption. maybe you don't trust their metadata handling etc but your first point was you didn't trust signal due to its encryption, which is just a wild thing to say.
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