eloquence,
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This is a big deal:

The W3C, founded in 1994 by web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, has quit X and declared the fediverse to be their primary social media channel. Follow them at: @w3c

The future of the open web is .. the open web.

cenbe,
@cenbe@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@eloquence @w3c At first I thought you meant they'd switched to Wayland.

xs4me2,
@xs4me2@mastodon.social avatar

@eloquence @w3c

It is indeed, an a great gesture…

hvdsomp,
@hvdsomp@w3c.social avatar

@w3c @eloquence took them quite a while, actually,

w3c,
@w3c@w3c.social avatar

@hvdsomp @eloquence

We've been on Mastodon since 2017 (see our profile: https://w3c.social/@w3c).

We are just no longer are on both X/Twitter and Mastodon

fluepke,
@fluepke@chaos.social avatar

@eloquence why is it?

W3C does not stand for an open web. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions

fluepke,
@fluepke@chaos.social avatar

@eloquence ever tried participating in the W3C standardization process? Be rich or go home!

mima,

@fluepke has pretty much become a rubberstamp for the -led cartel that is the . An organization that doesn't give smaller browsers like , , and a voice in the writing of specs for web standards like and does not deserve support, and should not be seen as an ally of the .

@eloquence

f09fa681,
@f09fa681@digitalcourage.social avatar

@mima @fluepke @eloquence Can you elaborate on WHATWG? I did participate in both W3C and WHATWG groups and the latter was definitely open and friendly towards individuals and their contributions.

mima,

@f09fa681 Issue of whatwg/html pretty much explains for itself what it means for contributions which don't get "enough implementer interest" in the despite having a significant grassroots support.

This obsession in making sure at least two "implementers" have the feature baked into their codebases is frankly bull and is one of the factors of why we have such a -biased . Theoretically it's there so that every feature would be certain that there are players backing and seeing that feature being useful and good for the , but in reality it has become Google's veto in most cases, with the popular being one of the victims here. It has been a standard for quite some years, yet Chrome's developers seem to have an extreme case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome and decided not to implement it for whatever reason. Maybe they really don't have an interest in it and are therefore in "patches welcome" mode like a corporation would do in . Or maybe, they saw it as a threat to their Google because it pretty much satisfies most of the usecases their toy project is designed to solve, and web developers don't want to deal with such a complex feature just to limit the scope of their . Whatever the reason is, this should not kill a feature that has been long-awaited by many web developers to be supported in their and is backed by a well-maintained and developed (which is in this case).

Allowing comments in GitHub issues is ultimately useless if the final decisions are made by a closed cabal of big "implementers" who as history has shown has been pretty much Google's lapdogs most of the time.

@fluepke @eloquence

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