DemocracyMattersALot,
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It's Biden or fascism.

Having trouble voting for Biden? Boost another ticket in the run up to 2028—when the incumbent is ineligible.

In 2024, a vote for ANYONE BUT Biden/Harris IS A VOTE FOR THE GOP.

Sit it out? That’s a vote for GOP.

Democrats are far from perfect. Change the system! If you choose to destroy it, you may not see democracy again in your lifetime. Trust the collective history of third-party and other spoilers.

billyjoebowers,
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@DemocracyMattersALot

Having no trouble voting for Biden. Thrilled to do it.
Might do it 2 or 3 times.

nilsskirnir,
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@DemocracyMattersALot The worst thing to do is to sit it out. That can guarantee a Repuke House and Senate.
It`s the sad state of affairs that our choice in 2024 will again be Biden/Trump.

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Jon_Kramer,
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@DemocracyMattersALot I will not vote for anyone who supports what Israel is doing. I will not support anyone who thinks social security is on the table, got Thomas on the court, lied about meeting Mandela, his class rank, anyone who left the post master in his job, who watched Roe overturned, who hasn't arrested seditionists, long list.

Hard pass on Biden.

I suggest replacing him, if you want a Democrat to win.

daylightatheism,

@Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot Who "watched Roe overturned"?

There are fair criticisms of Biden, but you're really reaching for something to blame him for. Do you think he's responsible for any bad thing he glances at?

Jon_Kramer,
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@daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot he could be demanding federal law to put the protection of Roe back into force.

But he isn't.

That is his responsibility. His path. His legacy.

daylightatheism,

@Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot Do you think there's even the slightest chance that the Republicans who currently control the House would vote for that?

Jon_Kramer,
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@daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot he had 2 years of a Democrat controlled house.

DemocracyMattersALot,
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@Jon_Kramer

He should have anticipated Roe's overturn? Roe was overturned on June 24, 2022.

@daylightatheism

Jon_Kramer,
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@DemocracyMattersALot @daylightatheism who was speaker of the house on that day?

daylightatheism,

@Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot The House passed a bill in 2022 to protect abortion rights that was then blocked by Republican obstruction of the Senate: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-vote-abortion-rights-bills-supreme-courts-reversal-roe-rcna38369

Jon_Kramer,
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@daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot and then they gave up.

Not good enough.

daylightatheism,

@Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot How many failed, doomed attempts to do the same thing would it have taken to satisfy you?

You can say America's governmental system is set up badly and gives too much power to obstructionists. But it's just absurd griping to blame Biden or the Democrats for not doing something they literally didn't have the power to do.

violetmadder,
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@daylightatheism @Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot

Obama promised to codify Roe v Wade. When the time came and he had the majority to do it, he said it was "not a priority", and just didn't fucking BOTHER.

Jon_Kramer,
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@violetmadder @daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot it is so much better to these monsters to use it as campaign fodder. To keep the voters fighting over the issue, rather than solving it and moving on.

violetmadder,
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@Jon_Kramer @daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot

I swear they gave it to the GOP on purpose. They'd rather feed us to Republicans to terrorize us, than actually earn votes.

People who use fascists as attack dogs to terrorize us... are not our friends.

cat_static,
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violetmadder,
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@cat_static @daylightatheism @Jon_Kramer @DemocracyMattersALot

"The first thing I will do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act," --Obama 2007

"The Freedom of Choice Act is not my highest legislative priority," Obama said. "The most important thing we can do is to tamp down some of the anger surrounding the issue" --Obama 2009

Oops, can't protect the bodily autonomy of women, it'll make forced birthers mad. So much for hope and change.

CatDragon,
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@Jon_Kramer @daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot no. Trump SCOTUS appointees overturned Roe. You know the SCOTUS appointees we got because people were too busy sulking over Bernie to see the big picture?

Jon_Kramer,
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@CatDragon @daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot ya, those guys, the ones Biden helped get on the court, and didn't fight to impeach or didnt expand the court to mitigate the fallout, didn't fight for federal law... nothing.

Ya. Those guys.

CatDragon,
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@Jon_Kramer @daylightatheism @DemocracyMattersALot well enjoy your purity politics.

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    @accretionist @DemocracyMattersALot your religion is wrong.

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  • Jon_Kramer,
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    @accretionist @DemocracyMattersALot and more pants. You are fixated on pants.

    Tattered,
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    @DemocracyMattersALot You are right. And that, in a nutshell is all that is wrong with what masquerades as democracy.

    Voting for the guy who has allowed the slaughter in Gaza, and dropped bombs on Iraq and Yemen, is the only way to stop something worse…

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    @accretionist @DemocracyMattersALot I am not sure that I said that. In fact, I think I agreed that voting for Biden was the best option; and then stated that that was problematic. I thought that was quite clear.

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    @accretionist @DemocracyMattersALot I take your point.

    Unfortunately, I will be voting for no-one, as I am a Brit in Japan, watching the American hegemony spin the world towards its doom, as oil, and arms, and tech oligarchs get greedier and more desperate.

    But, if I were American, I would hold my nose and vote for Biden; because a GOP lunatic really would be worse, whoever gets picked.

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  • Tattered,
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    @accretionist @DemocracyMattersALot I have no question regarding Russia. Putin is very dangerous. China is more complex. There are possibilities of positive developments there, as Xi is not a lunatic. However, officially, as far as China is concerned, Taiwan is a disobedient province, not a sovereign state. It remains unfinished business after the civil war.

    I’d rather no state was throwing weapons around. Xi is less likely to listen to those who only profess peace.

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