@TenPastTwo I think it's the Torygraph but I don't pay any attention to them either, only insofar as screenshots cross my timeline on the dark side.
God knows how they come up with this bollocks.
Sadly it works. An in-law of mine who I ended up showing my frustration to over the weekend just parroted all this conditioned outrage against utter trivia as his justification to vote Tory later in the year.
Literally on one hand there was climate, the fate of NATO, Covid corruption, trade embargo with our nearest neighbour etc etc, and his only counter argument was car free roads and positive discrimination being prejudiced again white males.
@TenPastTwo And I've just come across this, which is another prime example.
Telegraph: "Ramadan message on King’s Cross board ‘could generate resentment’ Network Rail told
A saying of Mohammed to mark the Islamic festival provoked criticism from the National Secular Society which said it revealed favouritism"
I mean, favouritism ffs?!?? https://archive.is/ZYx5M
@TenPastTwo I have the exact same problem talking to my neighbours, who are friendly, helpful and kind people but then spout utter garbage when you talk to them about politics. Despite understanding that the Tories are corrupt grifting thieves who have broken the country, they still justify voting for them based on things like the local council once giving a house to a brown person over a white friend/relative or bang on about 20mph and ULEZ.
Probably a bit of evolutionary baggage - we're "hard-wired" to react to the tiger in the long grass, even if it's not there, rather than the possibility that that glacier on the mountain over there will cover our hunting ground in the next decade. Politicians and their "friends" know this and play on it. It takes quite an effort of will to look closely and see that the tiger is actually a clump of interesting grasses which, hey maybe we could invent "bread"?
@muminitaly@TenPastTwo 99% of the time I do too but then one of them says something so outrageously stupid I can't keep my mouth shut. The infuriating thing is, they usually accept that whatever they think isn't the actual problem but then immediately revert to their ignorant racist culture war bullshit five seconds later 😡
@fkamiah17@TenPastTwo I’ve just resigned to the fact a lot of people are simply not very bright and too fixed in their views. No matter how you simply you explain why something works as it does or who is responsible (council vs devolved gov vs U.K. government) they listen then go off on a rant.
@Lassielmr@TenPastTwo One of the worst things is that they understand perfectly that the local council (and its budget) is funded by the UK govt and the Welsh govt is subject to Barnett, so in a sense it's of no consequence whether it's a Labour council or not. But that doesn't break through the cognitive dissonance.
@Lassielmr@fkamiah17@TenPastTwo Mother-in-law in Dundee is someone who still reads right-wing paper press and believes everything she is told by BBC. When she visited at Xmas she was telling us how the country is full. Facepalm.
@IndyRichard@Lassielmr@TenPastTwo It's insidious. Those most likely to vote Tory are (usually) the same as those most unlikely to seek independent sources of information or even question the garbage they're fed by the RW press and the BBC.
They actually look at you like you're some tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist when you mention any of the evidence that the Tories are the septic hateful thieving grifters they endlessly prove themselves to be.
We need to understand how we break such people out of their trance not condem them as irredeemable.
@TenPastTwo@IndyRichard@Lassielmr In my case, they absolutely do understand that but then reverse ferret when it comes to applying that knowledge to their voting intentions 🤦♀️
The other insidious MSM message that works really well is that all politicians are just as bad. I've heard other acquaintances, including some very progressive at heart, utter that as the rational for voting for the corruption you already know rather than some other corruption.
@fkamiah17@TenPastTwo I sympathise. Someone I know is an absolutely lovely man in almost all respects, but I do suspect he reads the Torygraph from some of the nonsense he spouts about things like ULEZ.
@fkamiah17 I mean, if your exit is clear when you enter the box junction, but subsequently becomes not clear because some idiot does something stupid, you can get caught by a camera. But these very rare examples are one of the things you have a dash cam for.
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