@carnage4life “immigrants are taking American jobs!” UHHH, No. American CEOs are increasing their profits by firing Americans and replacing them with cheaper workers overseas. It isn’t the government’s fault. Personally I’m glad that Biden is financially incentivizing corporations to keep jobs in the US.
@carnage4life Hypocrites no doubt, but it does underscore the point that a remote worker sitting in the U.S. will struggle to compete with a remote worker sitting in Mexico.
@manchicken@carnage4life I'm afraid in the long run, they are in economic competition. And all other things being equal, a remote worker in Mexico offers an identical service to a remote worker in the US. Wouldn't that lead to wage convergence between the two?
@cford@manchicken@carnage4life well we and Google’s executives are going to find out in a few months why one is paid more than the other and why some core stuff shouldn’t be offshored. I hope you are ready for some randomly catastrophic broken updates in your favorite Google products/services.
@ppn@cford@carnage4life yeah, I imagine there will be issues. I’m sure they’ll figure it out, there are a lot of talented people in Mexico and India. Country of origin is a notoriously bad predictor of talent and competence.
@carnage4life@manchicken@cford I think Chris and you slightly misread what I mean. I come from one of the countries where a lot of tech companies usually off-shore their devs and engineers and saw the shoddy local formation outside of reputable schools. In a world where remote work is still not the norm, most of the talented ones have already tried to emigrate either to study or to work. Executives are going to get “exactly” what they paid for.
@ppn@carnage4life@manchicken Ah, apologies if I misconstrued. In my experience, there is a big gap between offshoring well i.e. respecting the talent and creativity of the offshore workers, and offshoring badly i.e. treating them as order-takers.
@manchicken@cford@carnage4life from my first-hand experience I have not seen a single company I work for do the right thing. Executives all went for cheap order-takers from consulting companies that do a horrible job of hiring the right profil and giving them the adequate formation. Also often underestimating language barrier and time zones. After a year or 2 of things going off the rail, they are quick to give up and blame anyone but themselves.
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