randahl,
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UN human rights experts horrified: Seven mass graves found in northern Gaza with 520 Palestinian bodies. Some beheaded, some showing signs of torture.

The Israeli government can scream "anti-semitism" as much as they want — The International Criminal Court is coming for Benjamin Netanyahu, and the world will never forget what his government did.

Never again.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4652018-reports-mount-of-mass-graves-at-gaza-hospitals-some-without-heads/amp/

darnell,
@darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

@randahl You are forgetting that Hamas ruled over Gaza & mass graves are a common occurrence amongst terrorist groups who rule over territory.

👉🏾 Islamic State: https://www.npr.org/2018/11/06/664641098/islamic-state-dumped-at-least-6-000-bodies-in-mass-graves-in-iraq-u-n-says

👉🏾 Taliban: https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/afghanistan/mass-graves-and-missing-persons-in-afghanistan

👉🏾 M23: https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mass-graves-found-east-congo-village-after-m23-rebel-retreat-hrw-says-2023-06-14/

Israel 🇮🇱 is being watched by the world, & “if” Israel 🇮🇱 intended to conduct war crimes, I doubt they would leave any evidence in Gaza for others to discover.

This needs to be investigated, & we should await to hear the results.

FrankFrank,
@FrankFrank@newsie.social avatar

@darnell @randahl

The story as you suggest needs the Who, What, Where, When, and Why.

Many stories are written with incomplete information, but are penned with biased pointed fingers at the outset.

The Hamas GoPro's chronicle such actions and behaviors that match up with these discoveries.

It's popular Journalistic malpractice. Allege a claim through innuendo.

darnell,
@darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

@FrankFrank @randahl That is true. Have soldiers in modernized/western militaries engaged in war crimes before‽ Yes. But usually they try to destroy the evidence (via fire), not bury bodies in the ground where animals & living humans can find them.

👉🏾 Marines investigate photos from Iraq that reportedly show troops burning bodies https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/us/iraq-war-photos/index.html

Either way, an investigation is needed after discovering these mass graves.

FrankFrank,
@FrankFrank@newsie.social avatar

@darnell @randahl

In my day an example was the killings of civilians in My Lai. It morphed from the practice of Search & Destroy.

Like Abu Ghraib, it was prosecuted as a few bad apples.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

clintruin,
@clintruin@mastodon.social avatar

@darnell @randahl
34,971 dead. At least 13000 of them children.
"Israel is being watched by the world..."
🙈 🙉 🙊
That's true.

rob,
@rob@skol.social avatar

@clintruin @darnell @randahl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

The Palestinian Authority set up a fund to pay the parents of suicide bombers and the people who kill Israeli soldiers. The fund has paid out over $300 million to date. This fund is supported by over 90% of Palestinians.

People who do not want their children to die would not set up such a fund.

It’s sad that children are dying. Really sad. But this cartoon is offensive and wrong.

clintruin,
@clintruin@mastodon.social avatar

@rob @darnell @randahl
Sure.
Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify the killing of 35000 people...right?
🙈 🙉 🙊

rob,
@rob@skol.social avatar

@clintruin @darnell @randahl

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

Whatever you have to tell yourself to believe Hamas (which controls the news) or get behind rape as a tool of war. Where were your cartoons on October 8?

I’m not sure I am the one lying to myself. If Palestinians cared about their kids they #1: wouldn’t have started the war, #2: wouldn’t have established a fund for blowing up their own children.

You do not dispute the facts. And I think your support is misguided and sad.

randahl,
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@rob are you seriously suggesting, civilian Palestinians started the Hamas war? There were polls last summer showing that a huge majority of Palestinians wanted to maintain peace.
@clintruin @darnell

Extra_Special_Carbon,
@Extra_Special_Carbon@mastodon.world avatar

@darnell @randahl I appreciate that this is not cut and dry. I’m nevertheless very skeptical of Israel because of what is blatantly true on the West Bank. They can blame Arafat and Abbas all they want, but Israel is doing this, not the PLO.

But in Gaza, it’s not clear. Hamas is a very bad actor. They are maximizing civilian casualties. I suspect both sides are. We’ve heard what right wing Israeli government officials say. There is no compassion.

darnell,
@darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

@Extra_Special_Carbon @randahl Hamas is a genocidal, theocratic terrorist organization who needs to be destroyed. After they are removed as a threat, Israelis will be able to remove Bibi from political power due to corruption charges (unrelated to this conflict).

Most governments are dealing with existential threats to invest anything beyond sound bites regarding the conflict. I do believe the November 5th election in America 🇺🇸 will determine what happens in Gaza.

RememberUsAlways,
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gimulnautti,
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@randahl This just needs to stop.

People need to stop giving the far-right crooks ot Netanyahu’s army a free pass to use Palestinian children for target practice and decapitate enemy combatants for shits & giggles.

And this happens because ”the people I know from Israel are such nice people”.

That’s what the bad people are counting on. Using the nice people as shields to get their killing streak on. 😔

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