atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

I can’t block this racist on Bluesky.

I can only mute him.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

By the way, my content moderation is set to hide political hate groups.

I got a racist message anyway.

Clearly, moderation by algorithm isn’t working.

skymtf,

@atomicpoet the fact that its like we will allow them but you can hide them is awful! I do wonder what moderation tools will be available for the first FOSS implantations of AT Protocol.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Again for everyone saying, “Why are you using Bluesky?”

I’m demonstrating that their algorithmic moderation settings aren’t working.

Tech media isn’t reporting this. But I am.

I’m telling you that setting “Political Hate Groups” to “Hide” on Bluesky isn’t working so far.

Oceane,

@atomicpoet I'm sorry because I feel like you took my comment on Fediverse users considering getting an invite for Bluesky as direct criticism. It wasn't. Thank you for reporting about this, we need it to keep the Fediverse relevant as a serious concurrent.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@Oceane It’s okay, I wasn’t writing that in response to your comment. All good 👍

acm_redfox,
@acm_redfox@jawns.club avatar

@atomicpoet @mekkaokereke Apparently they haven't implemented blocking yet?? 😳
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1651783347759194112

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@acm_redfox @mekkaokereke Nope! You can’t block!

acm_redfox,
@acm_redfox@jawns.club avatar

@atomicpoet @mekkaokereke Yes, that's what I said?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@acm_redfox @mekkaokereke I know. We’re agreeing 😊

ahimsa_pdx,
@ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social avatar

@atomicpoet Thank you for doing this reporting. I appreciate your posts!

thejohnr,

@atomicpoet
Not saying you're wrong, but does anyone ever list themselves as a political hate group when they sign up? They think they are patriots. Not sure how that button would ever work.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@thejohnr That's the problem 😆

Homebrewandhacking,

@atomicpoet

It's in their financial (advertising) interests to get as close to hate speech as legally permissible.

It's just how the economic incentives of non-subscription media work.

Obviously as private platform owners they could refuse to platform Nazis.

RufusJCooter,
@RufusJCooter@mstdn.social avatar

@atomicpoet Some things that I haven't seen explained with any real clarity is, how does the "political hate group" tag get attached? Who does the tagging? If you disagree with a tag applied to you, can you appeal? What happens when Nazis & BLM both claim that the other are the 'real' political hate groups?

etc.

It's a shame, because like you, I do see that BlueSKy has potential, but it seems they too are determined to speed run the content moderation learning curve

BetaCuck4Lyfe,
@BetaCuck4Lyfe@kolektiva.social avatar

@atomicpoet Jesus, that's worse than I thought

zanna_92,

@atomicpoet in my opinion that shouldn’t even be an option, I get the ‘freedom of choice’ angle and all but.. come on, some things should transcend personal preferences.

also, by not filtering that stuff out by default they’re essentially admitting that they don’t care about their service being used to spread hate, and I don’t think that’s very good optics..

marjolica,

@atomicpoet the question I would ask is what is the mechanism on Blue Sky for a poster on Blue Sky to be associated with a Political Hate Group?
Do they simply self-declare "I'm a Nazi"?
Surely the normal route would be for you to be able to report them and, based on their post for moderators to decide that the poster belonged in one of those groups and should be categorised as such.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@marjolica Yes, that's another problem because the current algorithmic approach seems like a black box.

soudsider,

@atomicpoet I think that’s a feature

astroPug,

@atomicpoet

yikes! That's awful.

JIMNOBU,

@atomicpoet You can report the account itself

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@JIMNOBU Which means you have to wait for a moderator to take action. That's a problem.

JIMNOBU,

@atomicpoet Oh, agreed. Hence the slow scaling.

craignicol,

@atomicpoet interesting thread here about why it's so bad. Top line is that the bluesky team learned nothing from Twitter and are making the same mistakes, even though there's collective experience this time around

https://sfba.social/@williampietri/110277493208164161

kagan,
@kagan@wandering.shop avatar

@atomicpoet And apparently you can only mute the thread, not the whole racist? So every time this racist asshole starts a new racist thread of assholery, you'd have to mute it separately?

This service doesn't sound like it's usable yet.

Tengrain,
@Tengrain@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet

Hard pass.

cappiello,

@atomicpoet Got any invites?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@cappiello Nope!

cappiello,

@atomicpoet Thank you, sir. I shall wait patiently until my number is called.

Cassandra,

@atomicpoet
Why would anyone in a targeted group want to be there?

dom,
@dom@mstdn.ca avatar

@atomicpoet It's actually not wrong...but it misses some punctuation. It's an Anti-"white hate group".

quirk,
@quirk@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet if everyone just stopped talking about Bluesky, it would simply turn back into a supermarket in the public consciousness. Your efforts only gives them relevance.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@quirk LOL. Pretending that Bluesky doesn’t exist won’t prevent it from existing. I talk about Bluesky because I talk about everything that’s supposed to be decentralized. Even stuff that fails in this purpose.

quirk,
@quirk@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet Why should it be decentralized? And what about Mewe?

yuki2501,

@atomicpoet Okay, so basically Twitter is broken and Jack decided to go "fuck it, I'll make a new one" and guess what, it sucks too!

So this is basically just pre-Elon Twitter, but worse.

liberate,
@liberate@mastodon.au avatar

@atomicpoet I'm not interested in an environment where I can't punish racists

ToddVierling,

@atomicpoet
...there's no block function on it, at all!?

Or just that you have to go look at their profile to get there?

Quisley,

@atomicpoet If I'm reading this right it says "mute thread." Not mute the individual. Is there a separate menu with user level settings? Are the 'impersonation' and 'hate group' tags part of the reporting mechanism? This menu is very odd to me.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@Quisley Nope! This is it!

Quisley,

@atomicpoet That is deeply bizarre. It's like they have the whole system atomized down to the post level.

jkb,

@atomicpoet And that is by design I'm sure. Jack Dorsey knows what kind of voices will promote his new service.

Muting just makes you not hear the negative anti-human voices. But Bluesky can still deliver said voices for the rest of the anti-humans to read.

violet_cerue,
@violet_cerue@toot.garden avatar

@atomicpoet presumably a white person, yet they use something called bluesky. makes you think.

NerdRage42,

@atomicpoet I usually mute harmless annoying trolls, but the harmful bigots get a block. I would not like Bluesky.

RufusJCooter,
@RufusJCooter@mstdn.social avatar

@atomicpoet Yeah, that's a 'no' from me, dawg

990000,
@990000@mstdn.social avatar

@atomicpoet +1 stop using Bluesky

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar
BetaCuck4Lyfe,
@BetaCuck4Lyfe@kolektiva.social avatar
John,
@John@socks.masto.host avatar

@atomicpoet Accidentally were on purpose Blue Sky seems to have shown everybody what happens when you have easy sign up and limited moderation.

Easy search might even have something to do with it.

lessa,

@atomicpoet Assim o BS conseguirá a proeza de ser mais tóxico que o Twitter.

EricCarroll,
@EricCarroll@cosocial.ca avatar
Fayedray,
Lazarou,
@Lazarou@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet the PR department of that there Bluesky leave a lot to be desired.....

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