I just wish everyone would quit trying to turn this into Reddit. We left Reddit because we don't like what it is/is becoming. Let's not rush to make this an identical copy, ya know?
I'm curious about the normal numbers thing. I left the website (I needed to anyway, was obsessively checking it in my free time) and I figure there must be at least a few like me. So if that's true, how could it be back to original numbers after such a fiasco?
Most users don't know a fiasco happened, or care, really. You gotta remember your average user doesn't comment at all and really just scrolls while upvoting posts every once in a while. Their engagement is far more casual.
Reddit lost some of it's most committed users, though. It's also solidly not 'cool', not that it was ever cool-cool, I mean that it's reputation has been harmed among their target market.
It seems likely since they already have or will end up with executives or shareholders in pretty much the same group as other SV tech companies. It seems like reddit has fair potential for growth ahead of it though, while Zuckerberg copies or purchases other apps in light of Facebook's old core product and users essentially dying out, and the unpopularity of facebook with younger people.
Wait and see what happens when the third party apps don't work. Sure some will install the crappy official app being forced upon them but the cool kids will be looking for the next big thing.
I'm enjoying Lemmy, but I think perhaps it needs to do more to differentiate itself from Reddit by being better in some major way if users are going to move to it. Right now it's essentially just decentralised Reddit, but if it develops in the right way, that could be enough. I think it depends on how easy it is to find and filter content, contribute and avoid seeing the things or people you don't want to, as well as what kind of communities grow around major instances.
I think it is very plausible that the numbers only appear to be back to normal. I agree probably nothing will change but at the very least I am not using reddit any more - and I feel like I have seen a similar sentiment from other users of Lemmy/kbin.
True, but reddit's portion of bots is also massive. Anecdotally I saw bots constantly in reddit's comments. I have yet to see one in the fediverse so far.
Yeah, I think at this point, regardless of what happens on Reddit, Lemmy/KBin seem to have a decently active base and speaking only for myself, I'm not planning on even lurking on Reddit ... the most I'll do is hit a link that I find on Google or that gets linked elsewhere.
For me, there is plenty of new content popping up in the Fediverse to keep me interested, I'd just like too see more people commenting. Then, I realize I need to be the change I want to see, so am attempting to become more active than I was on Reddit and actively engage in more conversations (ex: this post :-D ).
I had heard of lemmy but not checked it out until this debacle made it clear that jettisoning reddit was the right move. It's been a lot of fun so far. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet, which is a breath of fresh air.
The culture on reddit has been clicheed for a long time now. At least people stopped saying 'the narwhal bacons at midnight', and 'and my axe' is only ironic now, but the pun threads, the Ouija chains, the silly automods and bots - I had enough of that. Also it's absurd to try to comment on a post that has 6,500 or whatever replies already.
What would make me hard quit a thread was when somebody would comment a quote from a show that was actually relevant & funny to the topic at hand, but then it would create an endless chain of reply comments of completely irrelevant quotes from the same show. Like, ok we get it, you got the joke, please stop.
Splez is obviously incredibly incompetent - "New Reddit" is been a complete disaster technically and design-wise. It's also amazing how they have a top 20 website worldwide and haven't figured out how to make a profit from it, while meanwhile companies like facebook make money like they're printing it.
People make fun of me when I tell them I am still mad about when ElementaryOS pulled the exact same thing. But I am, I'll never use their product because the people who make it revealed who they truly are. I took note of them and will never use anything they are ever involved with. Now spez is on that list, too.
Seriously, all they had to do was let users rebel by making weird content. People love rebelling and making weird ass content. Most of them would have stuck around just for that.
It’s a feature of tech entrepreneurship. You go until it’s boring and repeat. The problem is these fucks made so much money they don’t need to do shit. They won life and now they’re trying to take it to the next level. Even worse, they try to appeal to the masses as “regular people.” Lol
The precise outline of the dysfunction varies a little bit, even within a particular BigCo. Usually it boils down to managers who don't know how people work, and middle-to-upper management living in a reality of their own invention.
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