Google fires 28 workers for protesting $1.2 billion Israel contract

“Google issued a stern warning to its employees, with the company’s vice president of global security, Chris Rackow, saying, “If you’re one of the few who are tempted to think we’re going to overlook conduct that violates our policies, think again,” according to an internal memo obtained by CNBC.”

sonori,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

Well on the bright side, getting fired from one of the largest mega corps in the world for complaining about the company’s providing resources to kill civilians is a hell of a thing to be able to put on your resume.

On the not so bright side, I don’t like being a background character in a cyberpunk story.

Hazzia,

From what I’ve seen, being a main character in one would suck way worse though.

sonori,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

Probably, but I would much rather be a background character in the intro to a space opera instead.

rammer,
@rammer@sopuli.xyz avatar

You mean those who are on a huge space station that gets blown to bits during the intro sequence?

renard_roux,

Yay, space opera! 🥰

Highly recommend almost everything by Peter F. Hamilton if you haven’t read them, arguably top 3 space opera authors ❤️

Edit …: and Boo! Google!

Twig,
@Twig@sopuli.xyz avatar

Where’s the best place to start?

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Google would murder every single one of these people for that contract get real. I can’t see how anyone expected to keep their jobs after this.

I’m just shocked it went on for like 8h lmao

kandoh,

Love all the people that see repercussions for protesting and their first thought is ‘boy, those guys sure we’re stupid. Now they’ve lost their jobs’

Maybe the people doing the protests accepted that as a risk they were willing to take? Perhaps even the next steps were mass resignations? Hmmmmmm

lemmyreader,

Yes, maybe all those commenters could be simply called self-censored vendor locked in. This is also not the first time Google has been firing critical voices, it is quite frankly tempting to say “it happens all the time”.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Is it not perfectly fine to fire people who think it’s OK to come into an office and disrupt work for 9 hours and force law enforcement to be called. I can’t think of a single place that wouldn’t sack me on the spot for doing that.

I’m not fully aware of us protest laws but i was under the impression to protest you had to do it on public property. Seems like this is blown out of proportion because the writer agrees with the cause.

Ashelyn,

Imo their issue was in not forming a broader union coalition before picking their workplace

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Would a union be able to do this? I feel like a union doing this would be just as bad but Google might hesitate to fire them due to union backlash.

Hirom, (edited )

That’s a convenient way to make troublemakers go away. Even it some of these terminations are technically justified, it gives the appearance the company is looking for an excuse to fire critics.

Protesters probably need to be more savvy and respectful, but also need better protection against retribution.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I am pretty sure they could sue for wrongful termination if they conducted their protest properly and respectfully. You can’t fire someone for exercising a right.

off_brand_,

You really can. Right to work, + free speech is only applicable wrt the government.

The fact that it’s legal does not make it moral.

Butterbee,
@Butterbee@beehaw.org avatar

The don’t be evil to you must help us commit genocide pipeline

AFC1886VCC,

Google is complicit in mass murder.

Moonrise2473,

So, protesting for human rights is “violating Google policies”???

Imprudent3449,

Don’t be evil.

eveninghere,

Why did you put the question marks there?

thebardingreen,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

“Don’t be evil.”

tesseract,

Google would like to apologize for that inadvertent mistake. All efforts are being made to identify how this came to be and to avoid doing the same in the future.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@beehaw.org avatar

Isn’t it illegal to fire protesting workers? At least here in Germany its illegal as far as I know. But it must be a protest event (which it seems to be).

Toes,

My understanding is that in America, you’re only allowed to protest in ways that don’t interfere with capital interests.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@beehaw.org avatar

That reads like something out of South Park. :D

queue,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

South Park would probably be on the side of Google and other corporations, Matt and Trey are diehard libertarian capitalists.

livus,
livus avatar

I never really forgave them for the original ManBearPig climat change denialism.

Hazzia,

Even though the eventually admitted their mistake with the whole “ManBearPig is real” episode, the damage had been done years prior. I haven’t watched many recent South Park episodes, but I hope they learned their lesson to maybe not ignore actual scientists next time.

livus,
livus avatar

If it had happened like in the 1980s or something it would have been forgiveable but it was like 2006, at that point we all already knew climate change was real.

anachronist,

2000s were peak libertarian for SP. They were against the war on terror so they didn’t code “Bush-right” but they were extremely libertarian. I remember the media trying to push this “millennials are conservative actually” line by inventing the phrase “South-park republican”

Still I remember them landing some good observations. For instance, in one episode the boys learn how veal is made and become animal rights activists. You can tell TP/MS are not animal rights activists, but after the boys steal the cows the media, police, government, etc all instantly start calling the boys “terrorists.” It really caught the whole post-9/11 zeitgeist of “anybody you don’t like is a terrorist.”

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

I’d recommend to watch later episodes. They’ve pretty much abandoned the 90s libertarian edge-lord moments and explicitly disclaimed and apologized for it. They’ve had quite a few “wow, we were the problem” fourth-wall-breaking moments in recent years.

onlinepersona,

Every time I read what’s going on in the USA and how so many countries want to emulate it, the cynic in me thinks that we kind of deserve what we’re getting.

Anti Commercial-AI license

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

yup

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Oh no, here in America we have FREEDOM. the freedom to work! We have something called “right to work” which means we have the RIGHTS to work and quit a job with no contracts. We also gave up every single worker protection for these supposed rights, but since it was named right to work we are meant to believe it’s good for us

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

That is not at all what right to work means.

I get the frustration, but if you're going to criticize a thing, it's a lot more effective if you actually know what the thing is.

t3rmit3, (edited )

You’re confusing At-Will employment with Right-to-Work.

Right to work laws make it illegal to require union membership for employment at a place with a union.

At-Will Employment makes it legal for the employee or employer to terminate employment at-will.

They’re both bad, you just got them mixed up. :)

Whimseymimple,
@Whimseymimple@beehaw.org avatar

I think you’re talking about “at-will” employment, which allows the employer or employee to terminate employment for no reason at any time. Only Montana doesn’t have that (unfortunately for the rest of us), and employers must show good cause for termination after a set probationary period. “Right-to-work” means that you can’t be required to join a union or pay fair share fees as a requirement of employment. 26 states have this on the books.

I live in a state with both laws, and it sucks as much as you’d imagine… (mainly because it’s fairly indicative of other issues throughout the state).

drwho,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

I think yinz missed the sarcasm in the comment you’re replying to.

LeFrog,
@LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Please note that Germany has (compared to other EU members) quite strict and company-friendly protesting laws.

Such protests may be even considered as political protest (Politischer Streik) which makes them not illegal per se but could be illegal. bpb.de/…/ein-bisschen-verboten-politischer-streik…

quatschkopf34,

Yes, I don‘t think such protests would fall under the general protesting laws as they have nothing to do with your working conditions.

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

What did they think would happen? Google removed “don’t be evil” a long time ago.

Admetus,

It got on the news. They sacrificed their jobs for that at least.

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