Die Erklärungen sind ja alle schön und gut. Aber die ganzen verschiedenen Einstellungen und Vorgehensweisen sind dann doch verwirrend. Dazu noch die verschiedenen Apps mit unterschiedlichem Vorgehen!
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Eingeladen sind ebenfalls alle, die bereits Erfahrungen mit Mastodon haben und gern ihr Wissen weitergeben wollen.
Wissensaustausch: Deine Kenntnisse im Fediverse und auf Mastodon könnte anderen Teilnehmern sehr nützlich sein, insbesondere denjenigen, die noch neu in der Community sind.
Networking: Dies ist eine hervorragende Gelegenheit, sich mit anderen engagierten Mitgliedern der Gemeinschaft zu vernetzen und neue Kontakte zu knüpfen.
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Kann ich leider nicht.
Bin ich hier @Lokal_K zum freien editieren in #wikipedia
Wäre auch eine gute Idee in Wikipedia die Dienste wie #peertube#pixelfed#mastodon#hubzilla#friendica u.a. des #fediverse besser zu beschreiben und auch die Bedienung derselben, um Fediverse und Anwendungen bekannter zu machen.
Wikipedia ist schon etabliert und wird von vielen gelesen.
man man man ist das Anstrengend mit jemanden aus dem "Mastodon-Netzerk" zu diskutieren, der davon überzeugt ist, das mastodon die besseren Features hat als alle anderen Fediverse Dienste.
Ich frage mich nur, was soll das sein?
Die Software, die die BenutzerInnen am meisten einschränkt, soll also die bessere sein?
I'm writing you because I came across your blog site and thought you may be able to leverage the Fediverse in conjunction with your WordPress site's publishing horsepower.
As a #FOSS advocate with great enthusiasm for mass #Fediverse adoption, I'd like to suggest a couple of things for you to consider, and the following treatment can also benefit others who also have bridged over to the Fediverse that already have a WordPress installation, or have been looking to deploy one.
First, that you think about establishing a Fediverse account other than that of a stock Mastodon instance. Sure, keep your @Teri_Kanefield@mastodon.social account, just create another account for yourself on a platform that will afford you more options that can facilitate your creative freedom (let's not dissect that word, lolz) to publish posts that are in excess of a paltry 500 characters, along with things like Markup capabilities, Etc. Just a thought. ...
This leads into the next suggestion, ...
Second, why not make that account your existing WordPress blog, where you already have a permanent, branded presence and readership? Let's supercharge your WordPress site by making it a full and complete publishing platform completely integrated with the Fediverse.
There's a couple of methodologies, but generally speaking, once you install the ActivityPub plugin any future blog posts are on the Fediverse as well as any other distribution channels you may already have (say, by virtue of having installed the JetPack Social plugin that propagates into the deprecated silo networks).
One method I can recommend is to follow this basic procedure to popularize your blog posts and gain followers - just like you probably have been with the mastodon.social account you already have:
) If you've already created a new account on a more feature complete platform that's better suited for long form posting, inline images, Etc., like #Friendica, #Socialhome, any #Misskey or #Pleroma family fork platform, #Hubzilla, or #Mitra (They all have excellent Markdown support too); simply follow your #WordPress user account @<username>@terikanefield.com. If not, then simply follow your WordPress Fediverse user account from your existing masto account - which you should do anyway since I gather you have some respectable measure of followers.
2.) Everytime you publish a new news article / blog post on your WordPress site, you'll see it in your stream on your fediverse accounts.
3.) Boost each article from those accounts, your followers will see what you boost in their streams.
4.) encourage them to boost as well and/or comment - you'll see those comments in the reply section of each article on your WordPress site - Awesome!
5.) Now that you have followers of your WordPress user's Fediverse account you should be able to garner more direct interaction on your WordPress site, instead of having to post links to those posts from your mastodon.social account.
) From your @<username>@terikanefield.com account at your WordPress site, you can now directly interact with your followers, even those who post replies/comments to your articles, whether or not they are a follower of yours.
I'm taking the time to write because I see that you have a relatively decent circulation and engagement between readers and your blog articles, and the more people that see you engaging with others in the Fediverse directly from your WordPress site, the more people are encouraged to Join the Fediverse.
I am, as stated in my profile and also leading in to this, a FOSS and Privacy Advocate.
So here's a couple of links, one to the plugin itself - it's easy to install and deploy. Another older one that's still relevant that shows you how to do the install, and I think that's about it. We'll see ;)
HowTo with Video - Really simple, easy install, right from your WordPress admin panel
JetPac Social - I'm definitely not a fan of this kind of engagement (with the privacy mining, deprecated, monolithic silo networks), but you do you - it can afford you with even greater reach through syndication, and if you write about the Fediverse, well, ... So much the better!
You should also consider following the magnanimous @pfefferle - one of the primary authors of the #ActivityPub_Plugin.
Release banner for Hubzilla 9.0 Hubzilla 9.0 is here and delivers many improvements under the hood and at the UI level. Two of the most asked features have been implemented: repeats a.k.a. boosts and adjustable theme colors at the channel and site level. Hubmins can also customize other components via the bootstrap sass variables.
Under the hood we implemented a short term object cash which will improve performance when fetching objects. The internal use of ActivityStreams1 has been deprecated in favor of ActivityStreams2. Object integrity proofs (EddsaSignatures) according to fep-8b32 have been implemented. Interesting for developers: CI and the test environment have been vastly improved.
Other notable changes are: refactored browser to browser encryption using the modern sodium crypto library and support for custom emojis with configurable emoji sets.
For a complete list of changes in Hubzilla 9.0 please refer to the changelog.
A big THANK YOU! to all contributors and everybody who supports Hubzilla and its development.
Breaking changes
The .htaccess file has been updated to fix an issue with recent Apache versions
Require sodium PHP extension
Require bcmath or gmp PHP extension
Require intl PHP extension
Versions < 9.0 will not be able to decrypt encrypted messages composed in version 9.0 in the UI
Poke and Mood apps removed
Removed smiley button addon
Removed smiley_pack addon
Removed emojione addon (use the emoji addon instead)
Removed fediwordle addon (use the fediquest addon instead)
Individual connection filters need manual intervention (e.g. replace http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share with Announce when filtering repeats)
Update
Backup your data
Make sure that the sodium PHP extension is installed and enabled
Make sure that either the bcmath or gmp PHP extension is installed and enabled
Make sure that the intl PHP extension is installed and enabled
#Hubzilla is a powerful platform for creating interconnected websites featuring a decentralized identity, communications, and permissions framework built using common webserver technology.
@mario do you think there is any chance we'll see a #docker image for #Hubzilla as I had to give up my hub after moving away from cPanel hosting? I now keep all my services segmented in their own Docker containers.
For what seems like ages .... (about 6-8 weeks), I did not want to touch anything on my yunohost mastodon app, because the webinterface was broken, but the barebones settings were accessible. And I could still toot via my mobile app.
Finally, the interface is up and running again, but I fear a mastodon-move will be in the works, as I find the yunohost masto version very dodgy and not well maintained.
Any tips on how I can install my own server and keep all data of this version in the new one?
@leonieke@meneer why not do a trial run of #Hubzilla or its successor #Streams ? Available in Yunohost, I believe. Nowhere as complicated to admin, and compatible with many protocols, not just ActivityPub.
Or #Epicyon, which is said to be even less complicated.
Which, in many cases, is the very first time that Mastodon users even read that name and learn about the existence of that project. I mean, I've seen a poll just yesterday, according to which three out of four Fediverse users have never heard of Hubzilla.
This, in turn, piques their interest. All of a sudden, lots of Mastodon users are curious about Hubzilla as it's said to be able to do things that Mastodon can't, but that they wish Mastodon could.
Some like @dynamic who haven't used any other Fediverse projects than Mastodon so far actually go as far as trying it out themselves, only to discover something probably absolutely unexpected: Hubzilla works and handles absolutely nothing like Mastodon. And that's not simply due to the formerly-default-and-now-only UI that's perpetually stuck in 2012.
They may actually wonder why Mike had the audacity to build something that's so much different from Mastodon instead of just aping Mastodon and slapping extra stuff on. And I guess they're even more surprised when you tell them that Hubzilla was made before Mastodon. Which means that there was a Fediverse before Mastodon.
It occurred to me only recently just how many ways Hubzilla has to completely blow Mastodon users' minds.
However, it isn't like people who have come from Twitter to Mastodon to Hubzilla over the last year and a half are all happy about how Hubzilla is different from Mastodon. Switching from Mastodon to Hubzilla takes more getting used to than switching from Twitter to Mastodon, especially if you expect Mastodon to be a standard that everything else has to follow.
There are, in fact, lots of things about Hubzilla that'll irritate people used to Mastodon to no end. The confusing difference between account and channel. The unusual conversation model that sends posts to other people than on Mastodon which doesn't have a conversation model. Separate editors for posts and comments. In fact, posts and comments being something different. ActivityPub not being on by default, and instead of having a simple opt-in switch in the settings, you have to "install" an "app" to be able to connect to Mastodon. No CW field (it's the summary field, but there's none for comments). No alt-text field. No distinction between followers and followed. Stuff in the settings not being where you'd expect it to be from your experience with Mastodon.
And I'm not even talking about the vast permission options yet. Or the filters which even I say need improvements. Or Hubzilla being unable to boost (shall be fixed with Hubzilla 9) and follow hashtags. Or people telling you that you have to type code manually if you want to have alt-text.
Even those who learn about Hubzilla without trying it are confused. Why is it so different? Why does it have to be so different? Why can't it be like Mastodon?
In fact, it doesn't really occur rarely that Mastodon users consider almost everything in which Hubzilla differs from Mastodon a bug which they think can be fixed. It seems to be hard to imagine that what they take for a bug is part of Hubzilla's concept, and it has often been part of the concept since the early days of Mistpark back in 2010, almost six years before Mastodon came out.
I think over the next days and weeks, Hubzilla will increasingly be considered not only weirdly different, but disturbingly different. Along with that, more and more Mastodon users will become aware of the "atrocities" from a Mastodon point of view which Hubzilla users commit in the Fediverse, and which they justify with their different culture. Enormously long posts, text formatting, quotes, quote-posts, as if it's all the most normal thing in the world. Which, for Hubzilla users, it is.
In the near future, Mastodon will likely produce two more forms of drama. One is strong opposition against nomadic identity anywhere in the Fediverse, not so much because it's "un-Mastodon-like", but because it's expected to be used in malicious ways.
The other one is increasing opposition against Hubzilla itself and more and more calls for Fediblocking it in its entirety, along with all Mastodon or otherwise Fediverse instances that don't Fediblock all Hubzilla hubs. All because it's got that disturbing stuff like nomadic identity and huge posts well over 500 characters and quote-posts with no opt-out for anyone. And because more and more Mastodon users become aware of it.
@jupiter_rowland@mikedev I think #Hubzilla would have been more cool and successful if it didn't had #ActivityPub app and was its own alternative Fediverse. I wonder if there probably are Hubzilla instances without it. And actually i find the way Hubzilla does "Share" posts to be better than Mastodon in a way that you really give additional visibility to self and post you share by making it appear once again on public timelines. As well it can prevent ActivityPub posts from appearing on your instance in case you'd want your instance to be zot protocol-only posts. I actually like current version of Hubzilla and I prefer old versions of Mastodon like Qoto and Fedibird.
Yesterday I did a quick test drive of a #Hubzilla instance. It was a somewhat mindtwisting experience for me as a Mastodon user, in a similar way to how Mastodon/Twitter was mind-twisting for me coming from a Livejournal/Dreamwidth/Facebook background.
But it has some really nice features and might be exactly the thing that some folks are looking for.
@dynamic just really wishing there was a proper Docker image for #Hubzilla as when I moved from cPanel hosting to Docker based, I could never find one. I'd love to run my own Hubzilla insance again with all its additional app functionality, nomadic ID, mirroring, etc.
Oh, Zot! Nomadic Identity is Coming to ActivityPub: This could change the Fediverse forever
Years before there was Mastodon and even ActivityPub, there was Mike Macgirvin who created the Zot protocol, which Hubzilla runs on. One of Hubzilla’s most amazing features (apart from also integrating with Activity and the Fediverse, and having cha ...continues
@danie10 can you give a little hint on how to use/activate this Nomadic Identity function so we could try it and understand what it is and how it works. I looked at my #hubzilla profile settings and didn't find any mention of it.
@danie10 thank you, I think I got it, though I should admit everything is really difficult to find with #hubzilla interface - even just to get to this Import function where Nomadic Identity is hidden you should unintuitively go to "Channels" - "Create new channel" page instead of just simply find it in Settings menu like with Mastodon.
@fisunov and #Hubzilla is now quite an old network. Mike has long moved onto other projects. But he is here on the Fediverse at @mikedev so I'll be watching his posts closely.
Mike Macgirvin, the long-time developer that brought us #Friendica, #Hubzilla, #Streams, and the #Zot protocol, is bringing his most powerful concept to the rest of the #Fediverse: Nomadic Identity.