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dukepaaron, to queer
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"A Wider Bridge has called upon #Pride organizers across the country to ensure #Jewish people can safely participate in their events.

The group, which “advocates for justice, counters LGBTQphobia, and fights #antisemitism and other forms of hatred,” sent a letter to the Capital Pride Alliance and more than 60 other Pride organizers."

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2024/06/04/pride-organizers-urged-to-ensure-jewish-people-can-safely-participate-in-events/

jmb,
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@dukepaaron We had a good sized Jewish contingency in and everyone was treated very well.

I know there are places this is not the case, but I will mention that at least in OKC it went very well.

levjoy, to random

“I’ve been to a lot of Passover celebrations,” she added, “and it’s so weird that the story is only of Jewish subjugation, even though subjugation is still so present for other people.” She went on: “Black people still haven’t had their histories honored. We are still gaslit about the impact of slavery and the continued impacts of white supremacy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/18/magazine/black-jewish-activists-palestine.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ok0.RPHy.OoaQ7LAqhy_O&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

jmb,
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@emilyk @serge @levjoy

I have never been to a seder, ever, that only spoke of the oppression of Jewish people. These seders used a variety of hagadot (some homemade, some not), but all of them included multiple references to the ideals of solidarity and that our historic and present suffering is tied to the suffering of others.

This is painfully lazy reporting.

GreenFire, to random
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That they seem to be able to publish these types of lies with no repercussions is probably my biggest fear for our future.

I know it's a junk website putting out crap for clicks, but Microsoft has it up on their "news" page and no telling how much traction this crap gets other places.

jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @GreenFire I report far worse stuff than this, and many networks just ignore it.

One example from last week:: I reported two cases where users posted porn images and links on the comments of everyone who left criticism about a company (I seriously wonder if the company was behind it --- I was on the page myself to complain about their hyperaggressive salespeople who ignore "no soliciting" signs).

I reported both occasions to Facebook for violations of their TOS.

The reviewers say, "we don't think there is anything wrong" but you can appeal the decision . . .

Except the appeal button doesn't work.

I expect this from Birdsite but not on FB (which I thought had slightly higher standards). I was wrong.

MJ, to random
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One true believer with a degree in zoology is behind many of the legislative and courtroom efforts to push forward homeschooling today. The ideology that drives him is conservative right-wing Christianity and he is determined to break our public schools.

Public education matters.

How Brian Ray’s flawed research legitimized American homeschooling -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/11/brian-ray-homeschool-student-outcomes/

jmb, (edited )
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@shekinahcancook @MJ in Oklahoma, we homeschool so our son WILL learn about evolution (my high school bio teacher was so afraid she skipped the chapters on the subject), won't be forced to participate in compulsory flag salutes, will be able to be his proud neurodivergent self without shame and bullying, etc.

I know this is not what you are talking about, but I do you think it is important for folks to know that a significant number of the left-leaning and queer folks are choosing to opt out of public schools for the sake of their children's well-being, particularly in locales where fundamentalists and fascists have taken control of school boards.

jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @MJ

Strongly agree.

The lack of any real standards for homeschooling in many states (including my own) is absurd. We keep copious records (for the sake of college admissions), but none is required by the state.

glynmoody, to Israel
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‘People will die in the streets’: Gaza dreads onset of winter as disease rises - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/10/people-will-die-in-the-streets-gaza-dreads-onset-of-winter-as-disease-rises important: situation in is already catastrophic, but it will get much, much worse once winter sets in. we could see >100,000 deaths unless stops this slaughter

jmb,
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@baruch @glynmoody the battle of Mosul should not be something that should ever be repeated. The civilian death toll was far, far too high.

jmb,
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@glynmoody @baruch and just to be clear for anyone who accuses me of hypocrisy about this, I have been protesting the US involvement in wars since 2000, but especially us abuses in those wars.

Even the "good" war that the US fought (WW2) was the same war that the US committed some of its most atrocious of war crimes, including the atom bomb drops in Japan and the use of jellied burning gasoline being dropped on German cities. Both instances were textbook examples of intentionally targeting civilian populations, both were evil and wrong.

oregonmiles, to Israel

What a luxury and privilege it is to sit back and sagely proclaim that one is "against all violence." Such talk is truly a luxury of the privileged, to which not everyone can afford access.

In the real world, difficult choices must be made, and sometimes they involve legitimate violence, in self-defense, to protect or rescue innocents, to prevent even greater violence, and even to administer justice.

It is very important to be clear in one's own mind about the cost and the value of different deployments of violence.

Everyone one has the right to be a pacifist and to "turn the other cheek", but no one has the right to demand that others live by their personal pieties.

Justice and ethics are too pressing for such small-scale personal piety.

If only we actually could say truthfully that "violence is not the way." Tragically, sometimes violence is exactly the only way.

jmb,
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@oregonmiles When our collective tax dollars pay for the violence, we all have a duty and obligation to speak out if we believe it is wrong.

This is what being in a democracy is all about. We all have a voice.

jmb,
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@oregonmiles will you also be supporting the plans being discussed to flood the tunnels?

18+ chaimbenaharon, to random

Can you all help me with a -succinct- answer to "Why does Israel have a right to the land?" In a rare reversal (because it's actually from the far right), the (would-be) leftists have rhetorical punch on their side. Phrases like "stolen land" and "from the river to the sea" resonate easily, (thoughtlessly) and I've never heard a succinct, dare I say, "catchy," response. My best answer is to point people to 30-50 pages of history in a book. Not exactly sound-bite worthy. "The holocaust" doesn't work - the flat response is "being wronged doesn't allow you to wrong." "The UN!" doesn't work - international bodies can be wrong, it only shifts blame, it doesn't correct the perceived "wrong." In this sound-bite, social media age, the reality is that short, catchy, punchy phrases win hearts and minds. Though I understand the "Jews must never explain themselves, because it never works/is never enough" position, it's a bit navel-gazing and unrealistic. What do YOU say?

18+ jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @dukepaaron @chaimbenaharon I'm not saying it likely any time soon but I do think it needs to be the end goal.

Fyi - I'm modeling this shared sovereignty idea after our legal situation in Oklahoma where the Native American tribal governments and the state government have to share sovereignty. It doesn't always work smoothly (especially with our current governor) but often it does. Admittedly it is easier when the last shooting wars between indigenous folks and white Americans in Oklahoma was more than 100 years ago --- so maybe the dream of shared sovereignty in Israel/Palestine will take 100 years to achieve too.

18+ jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @dukepaaron @chaimbenaharon

No, Native Americans are already organizing for this struggle. I don't anticipate that armed struggle is a viable option (Wounded Knee made that painfully obvious) but there will be struggle through other means.

Going back to the main issue of conversation --- the issue of unfairness is reasonable to raise, but it shouldn't stop the conversation about international law standards either.

18+ jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @dukepaaron @chaimbenaharon

I don't disagree about the USA.

I think we are talking past each other, so I'm going to restate this in a different way...

International law is still in its infancy and has been inconsistently enforced, but nevertheless I don't think the answer to the uneven application of international law is to abandon .

raf, to random
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Don't forget, what's happening in Ukraine is also a genocide by the UN definition of genocide

jmb,
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@shekinahcancook @raf but is the answer to throw away the standards?

dukepaaron, to Jewish
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Micah Halpern making the case that (types) should be put in .

I believe the Satmars and Chabad both did this with Neturei Karta.

Obviously, this is a 'not-to-be-taken-seriously' proposal from a typically over the top media/policy personality. But the overt declarations of ostracism he includes probably will play out somewhat in the real world, at least socially, in terms of shul and holidays.

Which creates lots of problems. The more isolated and ostracized the community makes them, the less the connection they'll have to the Jewish community and the weirder shit will get over time. We create pariahs at our own risk.

And even as I say that, I couldn't possibly see myself chatting over kiddush or hosting them at my seder. 🤷‍♂️

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-774473

jmb,
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@dukepaaron I would say verbally acknowledging that they were wrong would be a good start towards Teshuvah.

jmb,
@jmb@babka.social avatar

@dukepaaron in other words, not saying that these people are no longer Jews, but rather stating that their behavior makes being a part of the community impossible right now.

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