matthieu_xyz

matthieu_xyz, 10 months ago

@matthieu_xyz @fediverse @vaguerant @PabloDiscobar
If I use mastodon. I don't need to signup or install anything. I can just get the content for free. They get minimal info about me (less metadata than in an email even!!) and I gave them no authorization to datamine anything! I'm also free from their terrible algorithm. It's like all good content in my inbox at no cost.

(And OP is right. Posting from mastodon is a pain in the ass)

matthieu_xyz, 10 months ago

@fediverse
@vaguerant
@PabloDiscobar
If I install Threads I need to signup. To signup I need to sign their ToS and give up all my rights. Then I need to install an app that will spy on my phone and send them a ton of info about me. And private info, not just the content of what I post. And they can resell and datamine that info because I gave them the right to do it.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@kbinMeta
@10A
Considering the issue about tankies on some lemmy instances, I think we understand how much left is too far left. And what you describe as "woke" isn’t it.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@MicroWave
There is a huge bot issue right now (started 3 days ago). All the numbers are worthless.

It’s a known issue, all admins should add captcha to the subscription page, delete the bots and re-compute the actual number of users. Unless we do that, we won’t have a correct number.

We can still look at the Monthly Active Users. Bots don’t post (yet)

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@gumchain @Bilbo_Hobbit
Pour moi l’intérêt principal, c’est d’esquiver les loi anti-monopoles et de se préparer à l’EU Digital Markets Act qui impose "l’interopérabilité" aux géants du numérique. On parle surtout des chats instantannés, mais ça pourrait aussi concerner les réseaux sociaux.

L’autre intérêt c’est que les réseaux sociaux ont une date d’expiration. Facebook se fait ringardiser par insta qui se fait ringardiser par tiktok, donc c’est normal d’expérimenter de nouvelles choses

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@thegiddystitcher @RedirectedPotato
Another con: You become an admin/moderator and have to keep up to date with the latest bad servers to defederate from and you’ll have to deal with all kind of bad posts yourself instead of relying on a moderation team.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@2014MU69 @MicroWave
Lemmy’s first big bot campaign, yay.

Bots only target successful platforms and mastodon has survived many bot campaigns, so I’m not too worried by this. But let’s give a hug to our admins. When all those accounts start spamming, they’ll need to do a lot of mitigation. Especially if the bots come from many different domains. (and also because lemmy moderation tools are not great)

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@slicedcheesegremlin
Mastodon users have the option to opt-out of search engines indexing by adding tags to their post hat are readable by web crawlers.

So you might not find everything from mastodon, but for a reddit-like it makes sense to be indexed.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@Trebach @slicedcheesegremlin
Yeah....

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.

And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A decided to migrate the community to !A and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.

And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A decided to migrate the community to !A and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@programming
@WatTyler
There is a demo of an algorithmic timeline thingy for mastodon at https://fedifeed.herokuapp.com/ and I really really like how it has a bunch of sliders for fine-tuning. The time penalty in particular is very important.

Would be absolutely awesome to have the same on lemmy.

Edit: Lemmy doesn’t show my picture...

https://static.piaille.fr/media_attachments/files/110/542/349/085/964/483/original/23daedec7cd17277.png

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.

Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@cedarmesa @c2h6
Diaspora is one of the oldest of the oldest. Much older than mastodon. They’re federated too, but not on the same network.

Mastodon and lemmy uses ActivityPub. (Mastodon used to run on OStatus, but then switched to ActivituPub later) Diaspora uses its own protocol and refuses to ever switch to a most recent one.

Some fediverse services however (friendica and hubzilla which are kinda facebook-like) are using multiple protocols and can federate with both mastodon and diaspora.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@aka_quant_noir @Bicyclejohn

Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!

Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about "replace", but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

• Meta (insta/twt replacement)
• Tumblr
• Wordpress.com
• Medium (currently only running mastodon)
• Discourse
• Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.

A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.

You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.

Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.

Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.

The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@fomo_erotic @mstrbtr
Lemmy and kbin are two softwares who speak the same language. You can see kbin posts on lemmy and lemmy posts on kbin. Communities from lemmy are called magazines on kbin.

The features and UI are different. Kbin is more integrated to Twitter-like softwares like mastodon.

matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.

There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.

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matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.

Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.

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matthieu_xyz, 11 months ago

@uthredii Hopefully they consider kbin. Mastodon has already enough client support.