strypey

strypey, 1 year ago

@idanoo
@aurynn @lightweight
Specifically, right now I'm interested in scaling Mastodon. Like, roughly where have you found the transition points to be, as users numbers/ posting activity grows, where new tactics are called for to keep the server efficient and reliable?

Also, have you tried any of the alternatives to Mastodon (eg Pleroma/ Akkoma or MissKey/ CalcKey)? Better or worse performance wise? Do they follow the same scaling curve?

strypey, 1 year ago

@idanoo
Bonus question for extra points; have you tried out any of the single-user AP server packages and how did they perform?

@aurynn @lightweight

strypey, 1 year ago

@davidgarywood
> “the marketplace of algorithms” has a big “debate me in the marketplace of ideas” tone to it, to me

The latter is a metaphor. The former is a literal marketplace, like an app store, where you can choose the filtering algorithms you want to use, and pay to access them (although there may also be gratis ones).

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@davidgarywood
If you like, we can debate whether “debate me in the marketplace of ideas” is a useful metaphor or not. But that's an entirely separate issue :)

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@og
> How can Federation be an algorithm??

They're separate things. Federation is how posts travel between servers. Algorithms (in this context) is how they're displayed when they get there. 'Chronological ordering of posts by people I follow' is an algorithm. 'Everything on my server containing #ThisHashtag ' is another one. What BlueSky proposes is to make sorting and filtering algorithms a third-party service users can choose between at their end, and toggle on and off.

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@sam
> One of the things activitypub has going for it is that the first time I read the spec I was like “ok I can imagine how I’d write something

You'll love Nostr then:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110318756245227721

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago)

@TheVoyageur
> competing distributed social protocols could become religious wars

I'm seeing signs of this as people here react to the BlueSky beta in a way that suggests they see it as a threat. Those of us who've been here for a while know that competing protocols is just part of the way decentralized stuff evolves. Before ActivityPub there were Diaspora, OStatus, Friendica's original protocol (LFRN?), and Zot. Software running those is mostly dead (or dying), or running AP.

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago)

@markb
> is it possible that Mastodon and BS can co exist in a way that if my local news TV stations and local paper start putting content on BS it could be seen in my Mastodon feed?

Possible, certainly. Will it happen, who knows? Probably. Bridges are already being written to enable users of AP software (eg Mastodon) to connect with users of AT software (eg BlueSky). It depends if BS is cooperative with or obstructive of such efforts.

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@PDFlynn
AT is a documented federation protocol. Source code is available. We can evaluate on technical merits without going down rabbitholes about one of the people involved.

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@PDFlynn
This kind of gotcha "journalism"...

https://www.cnet.com/culture/neo-nazi-ad-on-twitter-prompts-apology-from-ceo/

... serves nobody except the publisher who gets clicks, the ad networks who get data from clickers, and the advertisers who get eyeballs.

@atomicpoet

strypey, 1 year ago

@thull
> saying finally as if they've been around for decades.

They've been around for years and had more funding than any decentralized social web startup since Diaspora. Probably more than all fediverse software put together. Putting up a beta without even finishing the federation protocol, let alone their implementation, is kind of embarrassing. Particularly because it also meant their moderation system was unfinished.

@atomicpoet @mike

strypey, 1 year ago

@koherecoWatchdog
> Bizarre cases aside, you would be hard pressed to find narcassists who align w/the democratic party

The Dems are like any large, hierarchical organisation, narcissists and psychopaths naturally rise towards the top. One quality shared by both is their ability to charm their target audience with a vaneer of shared values, which collapses as soon as you scratch the surface. Dems like OAC and Bernie who aren't either are the bizarre cases.

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@tobestewart @Gogs

strypey, 1 year ago

@koherecoWatchdog
> Hillary put a lot of energy into a healthcare plan

Before or after getting the nomination? The Clinton campaign grudgingly adopted watered down versions of some of Bernie's policies in the hopes that would make his supporters vote for her, despite the shocking way they circumvented the primaries process to get the nomination. As the election result clearly shows, it didn't work.

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@tobestewart @Gogs

strypey, 1 year ago

@canusfeminacanis
> Still would, if there was a decent distro for Mac's

Define "decent". Trisquel ran on most Mac hardware while they were using Intel chips.

@dusnm @onepict

strypey, 1 year ago

@dusnm
> I don't think abstracting this away from the user is a good idea

If a user is trusting a service to host not only email servers but webmail clients too, why wouldn't you trust them to do a good job of encryption with AutoCrypt? I agree it's not as privacy-protecting as managing your own keys. But sending letters in envelopes is still an improvement over sending postcards, which can be read by anyone involved in transport from sender to receiver.

@canusfeminacanis @onepict

strypey, 1 year ago

@screwtape
> I balk at the idea of somehow cooperating with others by voting; basically I don't want much of a relationship with people I don't have a natural consensus

Depends on your definition of "democracy", but in mine, consensus is also a form of democracy. Arguably a more democratic one. See Graeber's book The Democracy Project.

> it doesn't make sense to have democratically controlled wages

Better than having them imposed down a hierarchy, surely?

@mjgardner @galdor

strypey, 1 year ago

@canusfeminacanis
> Zoom, of course, was a hero as the Skype killer, (again, an M$crewup) and arrived in time to keep locked down people connected

Zoom was in regular business use well before the pandemic. As were a number of perfectly usable and fully free code replacements, including Jitsi Meet and BigBlueButton.

strypey, 1 year ago

@canusfeminacanis
> [pushover licenses were] an easy incentive for corporations to move away from M$ and improve/ extend the *nix interface

Copyleft licenses wouldn't have affected Zoom at all until AGPL came along, because deployment over a network doesn't constitute "distribution" in vanilla GPL and trigger the copyleft clause. Even AGPL only obliges them to release derivative versions of the AGPL code, not any code used on the same server.

strypey, 1 year ago

@hein
> [Zoom] also collect any data from their users that they can get their hands on

All the more reason to use a trustworthy service running Free Code like Jitsi Meet or Big Blue Button. Or use Matrix, which already has pretty good encrypted voice/ video for one-to-one calls, and last I checked the conference call version was in beta.

strypey, 1 year ago

@arinbasu1
> I often host videoconference in Mozilla hubs

Is that a service or a software? If it's the latter, is full source code available under a libre license?

strypey, 1 year ago

@LovesTha
> No, but it also doesn't show up in lovestha's feed either

Is @lovestha following my account? If not I only expect this to turn up in their notifications.

strypey, 1 year ago

"The infrastructure of this program was specifically designed for Amazon AWS. This assumes AWS functionality, VPC, S3 Storage, a MySQL Database provided by Amazon RDS, Simple Notification Service (SNS), and Mail Service."

https://github.com/robbraxman/braxme/wiki

#FacePalm

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strypey, 1 year ago

Me:
> If each paragraph in long texts is a Note... That would allow a blog reading UI to display comments as annotations

While thinking about, it also occurred to me that it would be handy to have a blog drafting UI (or wiki page creation UI) in which I could paste a series of URLs to fediverse posts, and have it auto-fetch the contents of those posts (text, images etc) to form a draft. Then I could craft that into a polished blog piece and publish it.

@vik
@smallcircles

strypey, 1 year ago

@bcshort
> they are pretty much giving me 7 days to upend my life and try and update all the email addresses for 15 years worth of accounts associated to my email address

This kind of thing would happen way less if everyone got one gratis domain name for life, that they could use as a personal identifier online.

@stuartl @LovesTha