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strypey

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strypey, to internet
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"We believe needs to allow users to:

  • Read and post to multiple social networks from one open source client.

  • Pick and choose between algorithms for filtering and sorting the posts from all these networks.

  • Design (and potentially share) different algorithms for filtering and sorting.

  • Use third-party services to assist in filtering and sorting.

  • Audit the performance of these different algorithms as well as the third party services."

https://publicinfrastructure.org/2022/11/09/gobo-2-0-all-your-social-media-in-one-place/

strypey, (edited ) to random
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Where to start with this failure of basic fact-checking:

https://token-information.com/the-gnu-thaler-digital-cash-without-blockchain/

First the persistent misspelling of Taler as "Thaler".

> GNU sounds like an African animal

It is, sometimes known as a wildebeest.

> But it is digital money

Nope. It's a currency-agnostic digital payment system.

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strypey,
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> a joint project of the Swiss National Bank and the Bern University of Applied Sciences

Nope. It's developed as part of the GNU Project by Taler Systems SA:

https://taler-systems.com/

BEAS were involved in the first practical trial in 2020:

https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2020/fall/free-software-payment-system-launches-at-swiss-university

... following which the SNB issued a paper co-authored with one of the Taler founders, and the creator of eCash:

https://www.snb.ch/en/mmr/papers/id/working_paper_2021_03

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strypey,
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> Central banks are thinking about digital money

Nope. They are thinking about digital tokens that can represent money like cash does. Ok that one is a bit of a nitpick, but this piece is published on a site that claims to advise investors about digital finance. You'd think their writers would know the difference between money, cash, currency etc and use the right terms in the right places.

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strypey,
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> [is] the thaler... a new cryptocurrency the answer to that question is yes and no. Yes, because it is digital cash

Nope. Again, cash and currency are two different things.

> No, because the thalers are not mined.

Lots of crypto-tokens are not mined. Even Ethereum doesn't use mining anymore, after switching to a proof-of-stake algorithm.

Two paragraphs in, this writer's credibility on this subject is looking a bit patchy.

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strypey, to random
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"We investigate the cost of Grover's quantum search algorithm when used in the context of pre-image attacks on the SHA-2 and SHA-3 families of hash functions. Our cost model assumes that the attack is run on a surface code based fault-tolerant quantum computer. Our estimates rely on a time-area metric that costs the number of logical qubits times the depth of the circuit in units of surface code cycles."

et al, 2016

https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/992

strypey,
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@screwtape
> this is the one that basically halves the number of bits of encryption you used expecting a classical attack?

This question is way beyond me :P I just stumbled upon the paper by following a link in something else I was reading, and thought it might be interesting to share.

strypey, to music
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"You're looking for the boy of your dreams who is the same boy in the dreams of all your friends."

, 'The Sweater'

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JFfy0dMKIi8

This track still makes me giggle. I re-listened to the album last year and it was well worth it. Quirky and hilarious and surprisingly touching in places.

tchambers, (edited ) to fediverse

🚨 Want to help build a robust bridge and relays between & networks? (:fediverse:

Live only for a few hours - we launched this group late last night - it already has over 40 developers/followers starting to do exactly that.

➡️ @activitypubblueskybridge

If you are working on this, or want to, go follow that mastodon-compatible Frendica group & introduce yourself!

cc: @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@tchambers
It would be great to see a category for bridges on SocialHub, with a topic for each network people are bridging to. That could be a good place to summarize the social, political, and technical issues raised by each, in a more discoverable and permanently archived way. Because of that, threads there might be less knee-jerk than some of the hot takes in the replies you're getting here.

@activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@mastodonmigration
> check out the Bluesky Terms of Service for using the AT Protocol

The wording here is unclear on whether these ToS apply to any use of the AT Protocol. I'm guessing it's just ToS for using bsky.social, because any protocol encumbered with this kind of legal baggage is a non-starter. I imagine things will become clearer once the number of instances federating over AT is >1.

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@tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@mastodonmigration
In the meantime, why not explore the AT tech? Discover what it would take to make a functioning bridge, or implement an AT lite in existing fedi apps to allow interactions with AT users on our terms (no spam, no algorithmic manipulation, no mass harvesting of posts or whatever). Worst case scenario, the people doing it waste their time. Even then, they might learn some stuff useful in improving AP.

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@tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey, to random
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about , which according to their website;

"... is being proposed as a standard at the Web Platform Incubator Community Group":

https://webmonetization.org/

strypey,
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@kravietz
> [Web Monetization] seems effectively dead today as coil.com went out of business

That doesn't seem like a good sign. But the InterLedger Foundation still seems to be very active. Could be they are working with other companies for...

> bridging the deposit side (user subscriptions) with payout side

If the tech works, and especially if it's still on track to be a W3C standard, maybe one could be set up as a platform cooperative?

strypey,
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@kravietz
"ad-tech turned websites into massively oversized) bulletin boards that basically publish untrusted HTML distributed by an obscure network of third-parties of dubious reputation and unlimited appetite for unrestrained access to your web browser."

https://krvtz.net/posts/state-of-web-micropayments.html

The problem isn't the HTML so much as the JavaScript.

strypey,
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Clearly I need to do some more reading on this, but from what I've read so far, this...

@silverpill
> Ripple, Interledger, WebMonetization, Coil, Uphold etc are all parts of the the same machine

... doesn't seem like a fair description. Coil has shut down but the InterLedger Foundation still seem very active.

> They call it "open standard", but it is tied to a small set of API providers (centralized and KYC)

The whole point of the standard is that anyone can be an API provider.

@Hyolobrika

strypey, (edited )
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@silverpill
> FEP-0ea0 is intended to be a replacement for FEP-8c3f

What makes Web Monetization interesting is that from a user POV it works like a subscription. But one subscription that can support many publishers. Your FEP appears to implement micropayments, which have been tried and failed again and again since the 90s and will never work, for reasons discussed here:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110262616796875855

@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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I'm not disputing that these things are interconnected. But that's not the same thing as...

@silverpill
> a small group of companies and organizations used as a front for Ripple

You could map a similar set of connections through the fediverse to imply that @cwebber is in charge of every organization connected to the fediverse.

Do you have any evidence for the implied claim that the people in charge of InterLedger Foundation or WebMonetization.org were behind the Ripple scam?

@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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@silverpill
> My FEP... simply describes a way to mark any link as "payment link"

Some people may want to tip a creator for a PeerTube video or WriteFreely blog they enjoyed. Hell, maybe some will even want to tip a particularly insightful Mastodon post. I'm not against experimenting with this busking hat approach, in a way that doesn't depend on crypto-tokens (as does the tipping on Minds, Odysee etc).

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@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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@silverpill
But the digital busking hat is not the same thing as the nagless, single-subscription approach of the Web Monetization standard. Maybe it's a dead-end for technical reasons I don't yet understand. But as a user, I like it, and if the only barrier is the lack of payment providers, I'd be happy to talk to folks like LiberaPay, OpenCollective, and Flattr about getting on board, or even work on setting one up as a platform cooperative.

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@Hyolobrika

atomicpoet, to random
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Bluesky vs. Mastodon is not as black and white as many seem to think.

Let me explain why. 🧵

  1. A Twitter founder funds and advises Bluesky.

Okay, a Twitter founder (@ev) runs a for-profit instance, and another (@biz) has offered to advise Mastodon.

  1. Bluesky accepted VC money.

A VC firm owns 3 of the top 5 largest Mastodon servers

  1. An evil corporation (Twitter) helped develop Bluesky.

An evil corporation (Google) helped develop the Fediverse

I have further thoughts here...

strypey,
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@paul
>Does FEP borrow from the Python PEP model, by any chance?

Also relevant is the XEP process that the XMPP Foundation has developed for extending the XMPP federation protocol:

https://xmpp.org/about/standards-process/

@smallcircles @atomicpoet

blkgoddess, to random

Full stop, I hate how disabled people are ripped off for things that are essential like mobility devices, communication devices, adapted recreational items. Why should we have to pay thousands to have legs or talk, like any other Abled person can do for free. There needs to be programs in place to make sure these items are low cost and/or FREE.

strypey,
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@blkgoddess
> There needs to be programs in place to make sure these items are low cost and/or FREE

Totally agree. Most countries have this and it's called a public health system. We look at the ridiculous, inefficient illness-industrial complex the US calls its "health system" with mounting horror.

ramsey, to php
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I decided to play around with the AT Protocol, so I put together a very rough & very early library to play around with the concepts.

If you're interested, check it out, & I'd love to have others contribute to round it out and make it full-featured.

Ultimately, I’d love this library to be a starting point for working on some / bridging.

https://github.com/socialweb-php/atproto

strypey, (edited )
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@ramsey
> I’d love this library to be a starting point for working on some ActivityPub / ATProtocol bridging.

Awesome! Are you part of this interest group yet?

https://indieweb.social/@tchambers/110288194352540474

@tchambers

me, to internet

I've been hearing a lot of (mostly negative) rumblings about and I've been trying to find out what all the noise is about.

What I'm struggling to understand is why they felt the need to reinvent the wheel by creating the protocol. What does it supposedly do that does not?

I don't really see a way to see this as anything other than an attempt to be deliberately incompatible for some reason.

Most of what I've been able to find online is either from tech media which glosses over all the relevant technical details, or from BlueSky's official statements which don't seem to answer it either.

strypey,
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@tragiccommons
> The ActivityPub protocol is poorly specified

Can you explain what you mean by this?

> the moderation protocol is server-based

Unless I misunderstand what you mean here, this is a feature, not a bug.

@me

mjx, to fediverse

question I’ve not yet seen discussed:

What happens if server admin wants to move from, say, to ? Is there a way to do that without essentially nuking all user accounts and starting over? How deep does the ability to migrate go, or should it go?

strypey,
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@mjx
> How deep does the ability to migrate go, or should it go?

Not very deep. Account portability is one of the reasons BlueSky give for creating AT Protocol. If accounts were fully portable between any two fediverse instances, using methods specified in future versions of the Activity protocol (or in FEPs that extend it), it would be possible to set up the new instance and give users of the old one a one-click way to migrate to the new one. They would also have the option to go elsewhere.

strypey, to random
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"Access journalism from premium publishers, without subscriptions or ads. Pay just for what you read – a few cents per article."

https://go.post.news/

. Despite their good intentions, Post will fail as long as its revenue model is based on MicroPayments. As Clay Shirky famously put it...

> The Short Answer for Why Micropayments Fail

> Users hate them

https://scribe.rip/the-case-against-micropayments-from-fear-and-surprise-to-the-comfy-chair-e00bb81a696c

... and that's not going to change.

strypey,
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@jillianne
Thanks. This is hilarious. Web publishing funded by micropayments are a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that tech businesses have tried and failed to reach since the 90s. Either Melon Husk hasn't done his due diligence before launching into this, or he has the hubris to think he will succeed where all others have failed.

strypey,
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@jillianne
> Melon Husk (I'm stealing this btw)

It's public domain ;) Besides I can't take the credit, I spoonerized to Melon Usk but i didn't even think about adding the H until I saw someone else do it 🤣

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