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strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz

Free human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! All my posts here are CC BY-SA 4.0 (or later).
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shadowfacts, to random
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ActivityPub can support portable identities, using the infrastructure and protocol that we already have: https://shadowfacts.net/2023/activitypub-portable-identity/

The crux of the issue with current software like Mastodon is that people and posts are identified by where they’re hosted, not who they belong to. It’s as if the URL for my blog post was https://5.161.136.163/2023/activitypub-portable-identity/. It moves the post from being controlled by me, the owner of shadowfacts.net, to my hosting provider who controls that IP address. But the web doesn’t work like that, and nor does ActivityPub have to.

strypey,
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@feld
> Namecoin is a hacked up Bitcoin fork that nobody will run

Lots of people ran it. Most of them were domain squatters, who got in and squatted millions of namespaces way before most of the people wanting to actually use domains turned up. There was a paper written on it, I'll see if I can dig it up.

> I'm feld.eth

Cool, I'll have a look.

@shadowfacts

tobestewart, to random

Have we tried bullying billionaires? They look soft as shit

strypey,
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@koherecoWatchdog
> Hillary put a lot of energy into a healthcare plan

Before or after getting the nomination? The Clinton campaign grudgingly adopted watered down versions of some of Bernie's policies in the hopes that would make his supporters vote for her, despite the shocking way they circumvented the primaries process to get the nomination. As the election result clearly shows, it didn't work.

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@tobestewart @Gogs

strypey,
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@koherecoWatchdog
> Bizarre cases aside, you would be hard pressed to find narcassists who align w/the democratic party

The Dems are like any large, hierarchical organisation, narcissists and psychopaths naturally rise towards the top. One quality shared by both is their ability to charm their target audience with a vaneer of shared values, which collapses as soon as you scratch the surface. Dems like OAC and Bernie who aren't either are the bizarre cases.

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@tobestewart @Gogs

atomicpoet, (edited ) to internet
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is finally testing federation with "allow-listed servers".

They're finally taking the step of decentralization.

Many people will naysay this. But it's absolutely better that they move to decentralization than not do it.

https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture

strypey, (edited )
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@TheVoyageur
> competing distributed social protocols could become religious wars

I'm seeing signs of this as people here react to the BlueSky beta in a way that suggests they see it as a threat. Those of us who've been here for a while know that competing protocols is just part of the way decentralized stuff evolves. Before ActivityPub there were Diaspora, OStatus, Friendica's original protocol (LFRN?), and Zot. Software running those is mostly dead (or dying), or running AP.

@atomicpoet

strypey,
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@og
> How can Federation be an algorithm??

They're separate things. Federation is how posts travel between servers. Algorithms (in this context) is how they're displayed when they get there. 'Chronological ordering of posts by people I follow' is an algorithm. 'Everything on my server containing ' is another one. What BlueSky proposes is to make sorting and filtering algorithms a third-party service users can choose between at their end, and toggle on and off.

@atomicpoet

strypey, (edited )
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@markb
> is it possible that Mastodon and BS can co exist in a way that if my local news TV stations and local paper start putting content on BS it could be seen in my Mastodon feed?

Possible, certainly. Will it happen, who knows? Probably. Bridges are already being written to enable users of AP software (eg Mastodon) to connect with users of AT software (eg BlueSky). It depends if BS is cooperative with or obstructive of such efforts.

@atomicpoet

strypey,
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@PDFlynn
AT is a documented federation protocol. Source code is available. We can evaluate on technical merits without going down rabbitholes about one of the people involved.

@atomicpoet

strypey,
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@thull
> saying finally as if they've been around for decades.

They've been around for years and had more funding than any decentralized social web startup since Diaspora. Probably more than all fediverse software put together. Putting up a beta without even finishing the federation protocol, let alone their implementation, is kind of embarrassing. Particularly because it also meant their moderation system was unfinished.

@atomicpoet @mike

strypey,
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@PDFlynn
This kind of gotcha "journalism"...

https://www.cnet.com/culture/neo-nazi-ad-on-twitter-prompts-apology-from-ceo/

... serves nobody except the publisher who gets clicks, the ad networks who get data from clickers, and the advertisers who get eyeballs.

@atomicpoet

strypey,
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@sam
> One of the things activitypub has going for it is that the first time I read the spec I was like “ok I can imagine how I’d write something

You'll love Nostr then:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110318756245227721

@atomicpoet

strypey, to opensource
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: What's yours is mine, and what's mine is my mine too.

Zoom is a proprietary service. You can't download the Zoom software, set up your own Zoom server and host a Zoom conference. Their software is theirs. Yet they use dozens of software packages developed by the Free Software community to run their service:

https://explore.zoom.us/en/opensource/source/

They value Open Source, because it saves them money, but not the software freedoms of their users.

strypey,
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@hein
> [Zoom] also collect any data from their users that they can get their hands on

All the more reason to use a trustworthy service running Free Code like Jitsi Meet or Big Blue Button. Or use Matrix, which already has pretty good encrypted voice/ video for one-to-one calls, and last I checked the conference call version was in beta.

strypey,
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@canusfeminacanis
> [pushover licenses were] an easy incentive for corporations to move away from M$ and improve/ extend the *nix interface

Copyleft licenses wouldn't have affected Zoom at all until AGPL came along, because deployment over a network doesn't constitute "distribution" in vanilla GPL and trigger the copyleft clause. Even AGPL only obliges them to release derivative versions of the AGPL code, not any code used on the same server.

strypey,
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@arinbasu1
> I often host videoconference in Mozilla hubs

Is that a service or a software? If it's the latter, is full source code available under a libre license?

strypey,
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@canusfeminacanis
> Zoom, of course, was a hero as the Skype killer, (again, an M$crewup) and arrived in time to keep locked down people connected

Zoom was in regular business use well before the pandemic. As were a number of perfectly usable and fully free code replacements, including Jitsi Meet and BigBlueButton.

witchescauldron, to random

@dragonfly is a non-owned "brand" so it ticks that box and works for outreach.

We need to reboot the "process" so indymedia can start to work agen, to do this we need fresh codebases, outreach and training.

strypey,
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@dragonfly
I do think it's worth writing more about the history of Indymedia, so the lessons can be learned. There used to be heaps of great stuff on Wikipedia. Some of it fell to the deletionists, but much of it could be recovered from the edit history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indymedia

But I'd love to have a team of radical left social anthropologists and media theorists interview indymediatistas and put it all in one place online. From as many IMCs as possible, from as many countries as possible.

originalg, to random

Is there a way to leave a conversation? I'm in a middle of a fire fight about stuff ??!!!

strypey,
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@LovesTha
> No, but it also doesn't show up in lovestha's feed either

Is @lovestha following my account? If not I only expect this to turn up in their notifications.

strypey, to internet
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"But social media also exposes movements to many vulnerabilities. The solidiarities it generates are often superficial: movement use of social media can easily devolve into repetitive messaging in echo chambers without collective gains in narrative power—a change in the stories and values that hold sway in society—or a translation to real-world militancy."

, , 2022

https://logicmag.io/pivot/when-we-were-the-media/

strypey,
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@screwtape
> I balk at the idea of somehow cooperating with others by voting; basically I don't want much of a relationship with people I don't have a natural consensus

Depends on your definition of "democracy", but in mine, consensus is also a form of democracy. Arguably a more democratic one. See Graeber's book The Democracy Project.

> it doesn't make sense to have democratically controlled wages

Better than having them imposed down a hierarchy, surely?

@mjgardner @galdor

strypey, to random
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The were warning of this in the 90s:

"Export controls and usage controls [on cryptographic software] are slowing the deployment of security at the same time as the Internet is exponentially increasing in size and attackers are increasing in sophistication. This puts users in a dangerous position as they are forced to rely on insecure electronic communication."

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1984

to @onepict for pushing us to read this.

strypey,
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@dusnm
> I don't think abstracting this away from the user is a good idea

If a user is trusting a service to host not only email servers but webmail clients too, why wouldn't you trust them to do a good job of encryption with AutoCrypt? I agree it's not as privacy-protecting as managing your own keys. But sending letters in envelopes is still an improvement over sending postcards, which can be read by anyone involved in transport from sender to receiver.

@canusfeminacanis @onepict

strypey,
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@canusfeminacanis
> Still would, if there was a decent distro for Mac's

Define "decent". Trisquel ran on most Mac hardware while they were using Intel chips.

@dusnm @onepict

idanoo, to random
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    @idanoo
    Bonus question for extra points; have you tried out any of the single-user AP server packages and how did they perform?

    @aurynn @lightweight

    strypey,
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    @idanoo
    @aurynn @lightweight
    Specifically, right now I'm interested in scaling Mastodon. Like, roughly where have you found the transition points to be, as users numbers/ posting activity grows, where new tactics are called for to keep the server efficient and reliable?

    Also, have you tried any of the alternatives to Mastodon (eg Pleroma/ Akkoma or MissKey/ CalcKey)? Better or worse performance wise? Do they follow the same scaling curve?

    strypey, to fediverse
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    Quick thought on interactions between micro-posting servers like Mastodon, and blogging servers like WriteFreely or WordPress.

    What if a micro-post app receiving a long text as a post displayed each paragraph as a separate post in the UI, forming a thread? Replies to any of those separate posts would be received by the back-end as comments on the one post received.

    strypey,
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    Me:
    > If each paragraph in long texts is a Note... That would allow a blog reading UI to display comments as annotations

    While thinking about, it also occurred to me that it would be handy to have a blog drafting UI (or wiki page creation UI) in which I could paste a series of URLs to fediverse posts, and have it auto-fetch the contents of those posts (text, images etc) to form a draft. Then I could craft that into a polished blog piece and publish it.

    @vik
    @smallcircles

    strypey, to fediverse
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    Every post in the that isn't public should be encrypted. This should be the default, so that to post publicly, a person has to know what they're doing and turn it off. That way, anyone who wants to build search and discovery tools for public posts can do so without permission, or fear of retribution.

    Discuss.

    strypey,
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    @Matt5sean3
    > doxxing is pretty widely held as unacceptable

    Agreed.

    > there ought to be no backlash for creating discovery tools

    There shouldn't be, unless there is overwhelming technical evidence that they are causing (or will cause) measurable harm.

    A key point here is preventing people designing user-respecting discoverability tools, for people who want that for their posts, does nothing to stop Bad Actors from designing evil ones in private. Encryption might.

    strypey,
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    @Matt5sean3
    Side note: you're sneaking a lot of assumptions into your posts. I'm having to work quite hard to ironman your arguments. Feel free to use multiple posts to flesh out your arguments, or write a blog post that does that, and link it here with a TL;DR.

    thatbrickster, to random

    incels mad they can't use fedi as a dating site

    strypey,
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    @thatbrickster
    > You have more faith than I in those people

    When I posted that I was thinking of a suggestion @evan made in a presentation about using AP to federate dating sites ;)

    Which is an idea I like! Dating sites are the ideal DataFarm and we desperately need privacy-respecting replacements to get enough network effect to take off.

    (Ping @smallcircles)

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