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thoughtpunks

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Making #TTRPG games and being weird.
team: rev, yvette
games: http://bit.ly/ThinkPol
rev's ko-fi: http://ko-fi.com/revcasey
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once unleashed, the squirrel ultramech is unstoppable

LeviKornelsen, to random
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Aaaaaaand, home, after a total road journey (including both ways) of about 2300 km (about 1430 miles, for statesiders).

Oy.

The regularly scheduled allotment of "Levi rambles about nerd shit" will resume, like, late tonight or tomorrow.

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@LeviKornelsen
Get some good rest!

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@chrisamaphone @edutooters @RuthFlaherty

The rule is not the principle. A rule has no meaning on its own. Interpreting rules requires addressing their context.

The rule here is merely the most common expression of its principle. Hospitality, or respect for a demesne, is most often honored through a simple invitation [which traditionally doesn't even need to be a literal invitation; just opening the door was sufficient]. However, permission of the land's lord or authorities equally satisfies.

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@RuthFlaherty @edutooters

Rules can be rather misleading or even meaningless taken in themselves. Without their social context and knowledge of their underlying principles, many questions are impossible to answer. Including this one.

At hand is not merely a rule about invitations. It is the common expression of a mystical prohibition enforcing a degree of respect for hospitality and demesne.

Also notable is that the requirement of a warrant is itself is honoring those principles.

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@NudelnAlDente @RuthFlaherty @edutooters

On the social > linguistic side, symbolic acts of invitation [opening the door, lighting an entrance in late hours, etc] were sufficient in the earliest accounts of the rule.

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@RuthFlaherty @edutooters

On another note about context, all homeowner lease the share of the commons their property resides upon from the state.

If they fail to pay their lease [property/land taxes], they forfeit their residency, as well as the improvements and fixed property on the land.

Whatever enforcing agents the state authorizes to enter has an invitation. With a warrant, a far more formal and explicit of an invitation than normatively required.

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@NudelnAlDente @RuthFlaherty @edutooters

Oh! That's an interesting thought. What about:
Cities/big burbs and rural towns work very differently because of the different social expectations!

And even town to town could vary! One small town, the unlocked doors are classic trust and mind-your-business mores. [Prohibition firm.] In another, it's the old fashioned open door vibe where everyone comes and goes from everyone's, walking right in and saying "Hey, Bob! You home?" [Prohibition absent.]

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@RuthFlaherty @edutooters

Random interesting tangent to consider:
Would "no trespass" signs prohibit entry to land? How would exceptions like right of way and right to roam interact?

Another thing to consider:
Most of us are assuming the ruling law or social mores hold enforcement power for the condition. What if it is instead based on the vampire's original culture or that of the curse's source?

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The Dune series is so weird. Read through the first book or so and it feels like it's saying tyranny, eugenics, and misogyny are bad. Then you keep reading and it kinda goes, "nope, psyche, those are totally awesome and necessary for humanity". And doubles down harder & harder.

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@trochee @dunequotes

Two words for later cringe bits: "Honored Matres". Just... oof.

But it's so odd how the end of the third into the fourth book is like "all those respect we had for Fremen and small cultures? the concern for corruption, power, and authorities? the unpredictability of the human spirit and power of will? HAHAHAHA! YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVED ALL THAT? Come on. We all know only the Ubermensch can save us."

It's just such a whiplash shift.

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Least favorite Fedi moment:
Discovering one of the most prominent Mastodon devs on a righteous tear arguing that weak AI like ChatGPT is actually reasoning & thinking.

Just ffs...

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Welp, my experience of Mastodon has now reached the point of living up to my nostalgic memories of G+, which means it's almost certainly actually better.

thoughtpunks,
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@LeviKornelsen
And now I miss Wave all over again.

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The evergreen wisdom of Ursula K Le Guin

“A writer sets out to write science fiction but isn’t familiar with the genre, hasn’t read what’s been written. This is a fairly common situation, because science fiction is known to sell well but, as a subliterary genre, is not supposed to be worth study—what’s to learn? It doesn’t occur to the novice that a genre is a genre because it has a field and focus of its own; its appropriate and particular tools, rules, and techniques for handling the material; its traditions; and its experienced, appreciative readers—that it is, in fact, a literature. Ignoring all this, our novice is just about to reinvent the wheel, the space ship, the space alien, and the mad scientist, with cries of innocent wonder. The cries will not be echoed by the readers. Readers familiar with that genre have met the space ship, the alien, and the mad scientist before. They know more about them than the writer does. [finger tapping at the bottom]
In the same way, critics who set out to talk about a fantasy novel without having read any fantasy since they were eight, and in ignorance of the history and extensive theory of fantasy literature, will make fools of themselves because they don’t know how to read the book. They have no contextual information to tell them what its tradition is, where it’s coming from, what it’s trying to do, what it does. This was liberally proved when the first Harry Potter book came out and a lot of literary reviewers ran around shrieking about the incredible originality of the book. This originality was an artifact of the reviewers’ blank ignorance of its genres (children’s fantasy and the British boarding-school story), plus the fact that they hadn’t read a fantasy since they were eight. It was pitiful. It was like watching some TV gourmet chef eat a piece of buttered toast and squeal, “But this is delicious! Unheard of! Where has it been all my life?” [finger tapping at the bottom]

thoughtpunks,
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@trochee
if necromancy is ever real, i just want a 100 hour podcast of Le Guin and Octavia Butler savaging people.

thoughtpunks,
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@trochee
every once in a while i have a good idea 🤣

thoughtpunks,
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@trochee
Listen, it's clearly already broken.
Let's break it with something good for once.

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What's a genre or fictional niche you're surprised there's not more for? What is underrepresented and needs more games?

LeviKornelsen, to random
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Is this a cromulent set of statements?

In early play of Vampire: The Masquerade, primarily framing scenes as "obviously we should frame things there are mechanics for" created superheroes-with-fangs play.

Contrariwise, primarily framing scenes as "obviously we should frame scenes around the drama we built the characters to explore" created "Why the fuck are there all these useless rules" play.

In each of those cases, things that people felt they were promised by the game were cropped out.

thoughtpunks,
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@LeviKornelsen
I wouldn't frame it from that perspective [hanging scenes] but that's essentially true. It was a surprisingly fiddly/crunchy game with a heavy combat focus. [OMG, all the Ability and Discipline rolls alone, if you ran RAW.]

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This is a find-your-people post for TTRPG folk.

Please respond by saying what sorts of TTRPG things you're pretty likely to either talk about or respond to if you see them.

This can be a list of games (D&D! Tribe 8! Fate!) or categories (the weirdest of indie stuff! NSR! Anything PBtA!), topics (Worldbuilding! Publishing!), stuff you're making, meta-commentary (The State Of The Industry), and so on.

Then maybe share, and if the replies are building up, check them for new people.

thoughtpunks,
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@LeviKornelsen: All the things!

But especially , , , , , , , , and offbeat stuff!

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RT @PDLComics
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