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wrog

@wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net

genuine Internet Old Fart (if you're under 40, I have email that's older than you are).
sometime Democratic activist/party-hack & professional clueless, middle-aged white guy. He/him.
Math/computer-science degrees + physics courses. Music theorist by marriage.
Seattle area resident; orig. from New Jersey. Former Microsoft.
#LambdaMOO #perl #scheme #AlgebraicTopology #concurrency #Princeton #Cambridge #Stanford #autism #AbsolutePitch #RomanHistory #BoardGames #atheist #piano #microtonal

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GW, to religion
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The Many Awful Things That Happen To People, All Caused by Religions

No matter what kind of religion it is, isn’t meant to make things better; it’s only meant to keep us apart.
You’re not picked, but we are. Our is the real one, while yours is fake and dirty. of other religions can be , , and because they are not of our religion, but people of our own religion must be loved and cared for.

"Religion is and Hurtful"

https://gwfoto.medium.com/mental-health-fba43a4fec5b

wrog,
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@Oozenet @GW

"The Buddhists and Quakers are not on the list because I don’t think they have ever caused anyone any trouble."

Yeah, let's just quickly skip over any counterexamples that might indicate a problem with the overall thesis.

"But they’re not joining in with the rest of us either."

Who are "the rest of us" in this sentence, and what exactly is it that "we" are doing that they're not joining in with?
(e.g., I'm not seeing any shortage of Buddhists or Quakers denouncing religious violence).

wrog,
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@Oozenet @GW

All of the major world religions are fragmented into sects exhibiting huge diversity of actual beliefs.
Yes, there exist Buddhists who are murderous assholes, just like there exist Christians/Jews/Muslims who are murderous assholes. And also atheists who are murderous assholes.

Not sure what this is proving.

moira, to Seattle
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unexpectedly pretty moon at the construction site

wrog,
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@moira

Ok that's cool, getting the moon to appear in the middle of the construction site

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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OK, not too bad ...

546

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬇️⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬇️⬜⬇️⬜⬜⬜⬜⏹️⬇️⬜⬜⬜
➡️➡️⏹️➡️⏹️➡️➡️➡️➡️⬆️➡️➡️➡️➡️

https://www.andrewt.net/puzzles/cell-tower/?p=546

wrog,
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@ColinTheMathmo

woo.

546

➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️

https://www.andrewt.net/puzzles/cell-tower/?p=546

wrog,
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@ColinTheMathmo

of course, it's so easy to fake this

➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️

ColinTheMathmo, (edited ) to random
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This isn't a request for an answer ... I can look it up. It's a question about your experience.

So in your experience, will Daisy look sweet on the seat of a bicycle built for two or a bicycle made for two?

Please vote, and then reply in the comments if you're content to share your answer and rough geographical origin.

wrog,
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@ColinTheMathmo

Wait, did the Brits really change the words to this? Aaaaaaaaa

moira, to random
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Holy shit, Republicans aren't even able to get a speaker candidate to a floor vote at this point:

https://mastodon.social/

wrog,
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@moira

Too bad they can't have a rule that the vote has to proceed...

... with only 1 candidate on the ballot.

wrog,
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@moira

they'd sure get their shit together in a hurry if that were the consequence.

IIRC, in a parliamentary system, if the plurality party can't form a government, the head of state invites the next largest party leader to try

wrog, to random
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The justifications for pretrial detention and solitary confinement, as I understand them -- not that I necessarily agree --, are, respectively, flight risk (the usual problem) and preventing further compromise of classified info even if just to other prisoners (i.e., national security outweighs presumption of innocence)

Now compare (1) relative volumes and sensitivity of documents stolen (RW leaked a single report on 2016 Russian election interference), (2) that we have testimony from folks like Pratt that Trump has blabbed about Actual Military Secrets (submarine specs, nuclear weapons specs, plans for attacking Iran) to foreign nationals,

and pre-trial orders generally don't require proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

archaeohistories, to random
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An open air school in 1957, Netherlands. In the beginning of the 20th century a movement towards open air schools took place in Europe. Classes were taught in forests so that students would benefit physically and mentally from clean air and sunlight.

wrog,
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@archaeohistories

um,
it does rain there, right?

crooksandliars, to random
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Listen to this voicemail left for a GOP lawmaker's wife because her husband voted against for .
Using threats of political violence IS the GOP's strategy.

https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2023/10/voicemail-threat-wife-gop-lawmaker?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=80685

wrog,
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@crooksandliars
@spocko

So, I remember when I was a kid, the VERY FIRST page of the phone book had this HUGE warning box about how it was federal felony carrying serious fines + imprisonment terms to make abusive/harassing phone calls.

And that was back in the day before we had electronic switching (nowadays, even if the number is blocked, the phone company still knows who made the call).

Did these laws get repealed or what?

wrog, to random
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I'm starting to think this is not actually Republicans in Disarray.

The radicals wanted a shutdown.

They'll be getting it in a few more weeks, and, thus far, it looks like the entire rest of House GOP delegation will go along with it.

(The insistence that McHenry can't do anything other that conduct Speaker votes is part of the tell here. The rule creating his position was enacted post-9/11 as a way to keep conducting business in the event Something Bad happened to the Speaker.

Therefore he should be able to conduct business -- perhaps only essential matters, but one would think funding the government to prevent a shutdown qualifies...)

moira, to politics
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womp-womp

expectations were that he was within 5-10 votes but noooooooo

wrog,
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@moira @Eka_FOOF_A

the real question is what it'll take to get to 5 votes for HJ

(yeah, I know; dream on...)

wrog,
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@Eka_FOOF_A @moira

leaving aside the Small Matter of who the hell on the R side qualifies as a "moderate" these days.

wrog,
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@moira @Eka_FOOF_A

One may notice I merely said "5 votes".

(one might also think that wanting the clownshow to end might be sufficient motivation in and of itself...)

johncarlosbaez, (edited ) to random
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Western music has long used chords with fractions built from the primes 2, 3, and 5. What about 7?

I'll paraphrase Gann's book "The Arithmetic of Listening":

Four hundred years ago, the possibility of using seven as a tuning ratio was still up in the air in Europe. Zarlino, in his Le institutioni harmoniche of 1558, had enshrined the number six as the “sonorous number” beyond which no consonances. Over the next couple of centuries, though, various theorists argued for septimal (seven-based) intervals, only to retreat in the face of common practice.

The mathematician Mersenne claimed in 1636, “I have not the slightest doubt that the dissonant intervals of which I have spoken . . . i.e., the ratios 7:6 and 8:7 that subdivide the fourth—may become pleasing if one accustoms oneself to hearing and bearing them . . . for diverse effects that ordinary music lacks.” Later, however, he changed his tune and his tuning, writing that because 7/6 “is neither a consonance nor a difference of consonances, nature—which is harmonic—rejects it and prefers to interrupt its series of intervals and melodies than to move through an interval that serves no purpose except to wound the ear and the spirit.”

The astronomer and scientist Huygens likewise wrote that the number seven “is not unable to produce a consonance” but then dismissed 7/6 and 8/7 as being “incompatible with the consonances already established."

And so it went, writer after writer admitting that septimal intervals could please the ear before deciding that employing them was inconvenient. It was as though if you came out publicly for the number seven, a couple of thugs from the Six-Based Mafia showed up at your office for a little persuasion.

wrog,
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@johncarlosbaez

I suspect Debussy thought a lot about 7-based intervals (or at least his music is what you'd expect from someone who thought a lot about 7s).

Also recall the Tristan chord -- which has consumed entire forests of music theory papers -- having a really simple explanation in terms of 7-limit intervals.

wrog,
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@johncarlosbaez

I don't really know what "secretly" means in this context. Composers just sort of do what they do, we don't expect them to explain things, and music is completely open-source anyway.

my position on Debussy is admittedly more of an out-of-my-ass "hot take" than a deep analysis.

The basic idea is that just-intonation 7ths, being in-tune, don't have the same need to resolve that the usual dominant 7th (in ET/whatever) does and therefore you can get away with not resolving them. One might even count on a vocalist/violinist/etc (i.e., a musician with more-than-usual leeway to mess with pitch) to (consciously or otherwise) adjust things accordingly to make a given line work

1/2

emmadavidson, to random
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Someone at work said something about a second lunch and I asked if that’s like hobbitses second breakfast and they said they don’t know what I’m talking about and asked if it was Star Wars and I am just coming on here to feel seen by my people please

wrog,
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@Pagan_Animist @emmadavidson

depends on who the 'he' in that sentence refers to.

Though it is the case that any number of Christian themes show up in Tolkien's writing (*) -- despite his professed "dislike of allegory"-- he was arguably a bit less obvious about it (at least until we get to The Silmarillion) than Lewis was.

(*) Exhibit A would be how Gandalf resurrects after 3 days... or Frodo bearing the sins of the world.

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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Mathematics is not a careful march down a well-cleared highway, but a journey into a strange wilderness, where the explorers often get lost. -- W.S. Anglin

wrog,
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@ColinTheMathmo

computer science is the warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

jmac, to random
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I’ve decided I’m okay with calling it “X” without flinching.

Twitter was the thing we all had very complex feelings about for many years, and part of that was how it gave us joy and community. It’s gone now… it’s just gone.

X isn’t a mere renaming, it’s a replacement. And it does not deserve our attention.

wrog,
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@jmac

I"m fine with χitter

(doesn't quite work in that the Greek χ is more of a back-of the throat ch, but ... close enough for me...)

(the logo is more annoying for me because it's what the X window system used to use...)

moira, to random
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Day 5/10

I’ve been invited by @Taweret to share one image (no posters, no titles, no explanations) from 10 films that impacted me.

If I was doing this right, then: every day a new person will be added: 10 days, 10 movie images, 10 friends.

however because work has been so bloody stupid and antagonising and because i don't want to double-tag anyone i'm not tagging anybody because i'd totally tag someone already tagged

but i like movies so

wrog,
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@moira

that earring just leaps off the page....

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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I have a challenge for my constraint programming colleagues ...

I believe there is no perfect solution to this, so the question is what's the least bad solution.

I have 6 home players, A-F, and six visitors, 1-6.

There will be six rounds.
Each round will have 3 matches.
Each match will have two pairs.
Each pair will have one visitor and one home player.

We would like:

Each home player to be paired with each visitor at more once;

Each player to play against each other player at most once.

I don't believe this is possible, but how few repetitions can you get away with?

Here's one tournament:

Rnd 1: B2 v E5, C3 v F6, D4 v A1
Rnd 2: A2 v C4, F1 v B3, E6 v D5
Rnd 3: B4 v A3, C5 v D6, F2 v E1
Rnd 4: C6 v D1, E2 v B5, A4 v F3
Rnd 5: F4 v D2, E3 v A5, B6 v C1
Rnd 6: A6 v F5, E4 v B1, D3 v C2

This is not especially good: Player A players against player 4 in the first three rounds, and so on.

How well can you do?

I can get a tournament with 9 clashes. Can you do better?

wrog,
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@ColinTheMathmo

possibly-stupid questions:
(1) s/at more/at most/?
(feel free to edit)

(2) since you've (purposely, I assume) left open what the game is, we need to know whether:

(a) each player in a match is considered to be playing "against" both of the players of the other pair?
or
(b) each player in a match is considered to be playing "against" the player they are paired with?

(sort of guessing (a), but once you start thinking about possibilities like, say, the game is duplicate bridge, this question becomes a lot less obvious.)

timnitGebru, to random
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"I admit that I started thinking about this after spending the weekend walking underneath a grove of hundreds-of-feet-tall, centuries-old California Redwoods. As I gazed at the morning fog settling over the giant trees, I wondered: Why are we really spending billions on GPUs and data centers, fueling a spike in water consumption during a drought? For products consumers may or may not want or need?" -Sharon Goldman

https://venturebeat.com/ai/why-ai-is-teetering-on-the-edge-of-a-disillusionment-cliff-the-ai-beat/

wrog,
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@timnitGebru

"“Consumers need to be shown that generative AI has value and can be trusted,”

because heaven forbid they figure out it doesn't and can't be.

johncarlosbaez, (edited ) to random
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Wow! I just learned that Isaac Newton wrote a treatise about music theory, comparing just intonation with equal tempered scales!

This was in 1665, when he was 22: the year he fled Trinity College to avoid the Great Plague, went to the countryside, invented calculus, and discovered that a prism can recombine colors of light to make white light.

Check out this great new video - it explains everything very simply.

Newton's work is amazing because while an equal tempered scale - one with notes equally spaced - is standard now, it was very unusual in Newton's time. Much more common was just intonation, where the frequency ratios are simple fractions.

Another reason Newton's work is amazing: he compared just intonation not only to a 12-tone equal tempered scale, but also to equal tempered scales with 15, 19, 20, 24, 25, 29, 36, 41, 51, 53, 59, 100, 120 and 612 tones! He discovered that the 12, 53, 120 and 612 tone scales work especially well.

The 53-note equal tempered scale actually goes back to the Chinese music theorist Jing Fang (78–37 BC), who discovered that 53 just fifths is very nearly equal to 31 octaves:

(3/2)⁵³ / 2³¹ ≈ 1.00209031404...

Much later the same observation was made by Nicholas Mercator. No, not the guy with the map, another Mercator: the one who invented natural logarithms.

I don't know if Newton could have known of Mercator's work - but he was influenced by Descartes's Compendium Musicae.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ytb6AWRAk

wrog,
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@johncarlosbaez

And there's a fairly convincing argument that performing the Well-Tempered Clavier in Equal Temperament is rather like viewing the Mona Lisa in gray-scale.

(it is, however, annoying that there were multiple WT systems proposed and, as I understand it, we're not entirely certain which one Bach was using).

wrog,
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@johncarlosbaez

well okay, I'd heard They were pretty sure it was one of the Werckmeister ones but I won't pretend I've kept up with the latest scholarship

(also surprised at Youtube Guy's assertion that some modern scholars do think it was ET; that just makes zero sense to me; again, no need to write 24 when 2 will do...).

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