Mintyytea

@Mintyytea@kbin.social
Mintyytea,

To make a thread, go to the community you wanna post on, then click Create a new article. It’s confusing I know haha but after I learned that, I haven’t had problems. They might change how that part is organized too to be more clear

If Reddit phased out 3rd party apps gradually and tactfully, do you think this would have gone the way it has? The Reddit app is terrible, but is it any worse than navigating and learning the fediverse so far? Be honest.

I've been thinking a lot about why I decided to come here and I know it started off as a "they can't make me use their shitty app!" while simultaneously using test apps that crash and navigating less content than Reddit. What is the primary motivation for all of this anymore? Is anger enough of a motivation to keep people away...

Mintyytea,

If this stuff hadn’t happened, I wouldn’t even known how theyve been treating the mods badly since forever xD I definitely would have kept using the app, I was starting to do a lot of doomscrolling on there. I just didn’t know there was anything wrong with the company.

However, them messing up like this opened me to the idea of a social media that isn’t for profit. Even if this stuff hadn’t happened, it would happen later. It happens to all the social medias, and it happened to twitter. Because of this event this time, I learned the term “enshittification”, and I think it’s eventually not possible for the social media companies to continue to be profitable without hurting the user experience more and more.

It’s great to me that this stuff with reddit happened because more is gonna happen anyway. If they get to ipo, they’ll probably give more ads, they’ll probably try to push it even more as a tik tok/youtube shorts experience, which I still think those platforms overtake reddit on this field anyway.

I never thought a social media that isn’t for profit was possible and it’s exciting to me that it might be the direction we go in. I’m excited for both fediverse stuff and also the wikipedia non profit app “trust cafe” wt___something.

Mintyytea,

Are you going to the community and then clicking create new article? Maybe post a screenshot of the issue you run into

Mintyytea,

I advertised my kbin magazine on that lemmy community you mentioned :) I’m subscribed to it too. Most of the forums im subscribed to are from lemmy but it’s fine

Kbin and Lemmy should come to a consensus on how to name stuff

Is there really a reason, for example, for there to be the distinction of "magazine" and "community"? When you're federating, the same features should be called the same, if close enough. That way everyone can talk with everyone about stuff and we all immediately understand each other....

Mintyytea,

I feel like it’s not that bad to be uniform in some ways though. There’s lots of different email sites, but the way they’re organized/labelled is very similar.

I feel like if you want that kind of beautiful system where everything’s decentralized yet still able to talk to each other, then it’s better if some things are standard.

Even the general strategy kbin,lemmy, mastodon use have similarities to be able to talk to each other. They’re all on the fediverse.observer where we can see all their stats in one place. There was uniformity in a good balance. All three of these use activity pub, which I hear is a good thing. If not, I think there would be less synchronization? And then people might say, hey, we should let everyone develop the way they like, and it’s true, but there’s a good benefit in making some stuff the same

/kbin server update - or how the server didn't blow up

Currently, on the main instance, people have created 40191 accounts (+214 marked as deleted). I don't know how many are active because I don't monitor it, but once again, I greet all of you here :) In recent days, the traffic on the website has been overwhelming. It's definitely too much for the basic docker-compose setup,...

Mintyytea,

@piotrsikora @ernest Is there an easy way to add all the new communities to an instance? I’ve noticed somehow you’ve been able to add what looks like every magazine, even if it’s newly created.

I could help add new magazines to a new instance others can migrate to, but there’s so many, and I don’t know how to keep up with any new ones created on lemmy or kbin.

Mintyytea, (edited )

Yeah I think some people have been making posts today about their tools to bring some posts over…I can try to find it. I didn’t look at it very much yet though

Okay here is the thread from today: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/69416/GitHub-v1nsai-red2lem-Crossposts-from-Reddit-to-Lemmy

Mintyytea,

@ernest

Is it possible to rename the display name for this magazine to "ADHD memes"? The original instance updated the display name, but the address will always be the same.

Forum on the original instance is here https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/adhd

Mintyytea,

Currently it's more work probably than it should be to do this, so for newer people, it's recommended they stay on large instances like lemmy.world or kbin.social to have the communities searchable.

If you're on a newer server, you can add the community you want.

Click Search (the site, not search for the community)
enter the whole url of the community you wanted - eg. https://kbin.social/m/Frenchies
Click enter and wait for a bit until it's able to find the community and you can hit subscribe button.

It's easy to do, but nothing on the UI helps you find the communities without extra knowledge, so if you're newer, it's a better experience to stay on the larger servers

Mintyytea,

I don't know, I'm thinking they are probably about the same. Even though I'm trying both lemmy and kbin, I'm on a large kbin server and on a small lemmy server. I think that can make a bigger difference for the ignorant (me) than lemmy vs kbin. It can get kind of complicated to do some basic tasks, and I think it's good if these aggregators can make it easier to do.

For Kbin, I am liking the way they organize my feed, but I think you can customize your filter/sort on lemmy to do the same. Plus they have the android mobile app Jerboa, so I'm sure the experience for the feed can be good (don't have to keep resetting the filter the way I'm doing on browser [since I dont have an android phone])

Definitely feel free to make these accounts though :) It's been cool, like a big experiment to make these two accounts. I have one on lemmy.studio and kbin.social

Mintyytea,

Yeah I'm honestly seeing this as a big turn off for users to join smaller instances, which is a goal many fediverse people want.
It really sucks that I made an account on a smaller instance for lemmy, and there were some technical difficulties/learning curve on my end to add a community (which I won't run into if I stay on a large instance), but then even after I did add the community, there are no posts. I made a lemmy account since it allows you to save posts, which kbin atm can't do. However, when I'm able to add the community on the lemmy account, there's none of the previous posts, so I can't save it.

Mintyytea,

I do see them adding a page to see everything, and it definitely could help new users find communities

Mintyytea,

I do think you are overreacting a little bit about people being potentially invested in the fediverse/invested in trying to find a different home to replace reddit. It's not a bad thing for people to care and be unhappy about the way their reddit forum is being run. Without any emotions at all, there can be no actions or changes done anyway. How would people have transitioned from diggs to reddit if some core users weren't upset enough to test the waters with reddit?

People want to avoid and use reddit less because they don't approve of the way the company is running their product. If you don't feel uncomfortable using reddit, that's great, and you absolutely should just use either/both the way you enjoy it. However, it seems like your argument is that no one should be unhappy to the extent they stop using reddit, and I feel like everyone can have products they don't want to buy anymore due to their internal ethics. It's just a human thing to do to.

Mintyytea,

I think they want to push for it, and I'm also encouraging people to give it a try because it's not as good without the members. Most of the subs I miss are too niche so they won't really be populated here if not enough people try this fediverse thing out. I already decided I was okay with giving up the subs, but I think I still want to do my best to try to build this as a platform if it's viable. I don't think just because people are trying to advertise fediverse means they're hardcore stuck on this as a platform and desperate. It's kind of just the natural thing to do for anyone who wants to transition to a large forum. There's a lot of other small forums too besides this one

Mintyytea,

Do you have to do something special to truly make your account a bot? Like give it a function it can do as a bot? (I'm not trying to make this account a bot though)

Mintyytea,

Alright so I went on lemmy cuz I'm using both xD and I can finally see what you meant in your earlier comment. You said do
![image](__image_url__) right? eg. ![image](https://imgur.com/a/g3dJUyy)
image

and I'll give postimages a go :) I just used imgur since I knew about it

Mintyytea,

nice :) im making a lemmy account on lemmy.studio and will wait until they approve my account to give it a try! Might use both kbin and lemmy for fun haha

Mintyytea,

Are they just not working for now or something? When I tried these, nothing was found.

For kbin, for now I just type the name of the lemmy community, and that will show a bunch of communities/mags and where they're actually from like "nostupidquestions" gives nostupidquestions@lemmy.world, NoStupidQuestions@kbin.social, nostupidquestions@lemmy.ml, nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca, nostupidquestions@mander.xyz. It seems if I try putting "@nostupidquestions" there's no search results

I'll put a picture of what I get when I search on lemmy

Mintyytea,

It could help too if maybe on the sign up page, if an instance is getting full, they suggest some instances that are less full to join. That way people can be guided without having to do research on their own (before they’ve even decided to commit to the fediverse)

Struggling to get into Lemmy

Posing this on a whim since I tend to be a lurker on Reddit, but I am really struggling to get into Lemmy. Part of it is that I'm used to lurking but now we all have to put a little more work into not lurking in order to start to get the content we want, but also I have yet to find the sort of shitposting content I guess I'm...

Mintyytea,

If you can, stay patient :) if you can’t bear how it’s empty, I say it’s totally fine to go back to reddit or use both!

For me I’m usually selecting Show the feed of all communities, since I’m realizing there’s new content across the fediverse maybe every 30min to an hr, rather than like on reddit tons every second.

I find every post being made has a lot of engagement and fun convo - especially about reddit migration - so at the moment I tune into everything.
Just now there was a new post from the Memes mag, and earlier I saw some from foodporn

remember you can request all your data from reddit (www.reddit.com)

Not only is this a way for you to keep your stuff, inform you what reddit knew about you and in general good to do with services you use every now and then - it also tends to be quite expensive operation for tech companies that aren't quite operationally mature yet....

Mintyytea,

It’s okay. Personally I won’t feel guilty for searching on google and adding “reddit” to it. They are trying to become like tiktok anyway, with video/shorts content to endlessly browse and show more ads that way.

If you want you can still do searches with “reddit” on desktop and turn on adblocker.

I think the capitalism paved the way to help us experience these social medias, so it wasn’t a total loss reddit has all our stuff even if we don’t approve of it anymore. Now we just gotta build something new that won’t as easily go through “enshittification”

What do you all think about Lemmy's website?

For me personally, so far it's mostly neat. I love the simplicity of the webpage. But there are also some bugs here and there that are a bit annoying, though this is a community effort so it's justified. Still better than New [site which shall not be named]. Some notable bugs for me include the fact that the vote counters jumps...

Mintyytea,

Im gonna try to use both. I just havent made a lemmy account yet. I made this kbin account like a day or two ago but couldnt stay logged in (bugged), so I browsed lemmy and thought oh, the posts look like reddit posts, and that made me happy.

Then today I just tried kbin again and it’s working now yay :) so I’ll probably make a lemmy account soon too. To me they seem similar as long as they stay in the same fediverse

Mintyytea,

The downtime is getting better though. I made this kbin account like 2 days ago and logged off right away cuz I was trying to figure out magazines and each time I clicked something, it said I was not logged in and I had to relog.

Today I’m trying it out again and everything is working, though sometimes I get a 503 error if I try to open a page or post something

Mintyytea,

I think I’m giving up on the wealth of content/knowledge that is in reddit, but I will basically stop using it. I might still google a question and add “reddit” at the end, but I won’t be on there for game subreddits or any other subreddit. I realize personally I can live without it, and the company’s actions have just really soured how I feel about reddit. I used to feel ambivalent about reddit, I just used it, but now I’m actually upset

It’s crazy because I would have never even thought I’d be unhappy with reddit until they pulled this. Im not a mod, I had no idea the back and forth that’s going on between between them and the company.

It feels wrong for the ceo to threaten mods that way to stop striking and then we all go back to reddit, nevermind that those mods will just mod without their tools on apollo. I just can’t feel good going back to the app, I would actually rather quit and go without the forums I liked

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