notizie, Italian <a class="invalid-href" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" title="Protocollo collegamento non valido">L'aggiornamento di Ryan Barret sul bridge con Bluesky</a>
Di seguito il post di @snarfed.org@snarfed.org che dimostra una non comune efficacia nella più trasparente comunicazione dello sviluppo e aggiornamento del bridge tra #Fediverso e #bluesky
Tempo di aggiornamento dello stato del Bridgy Fed! Sono state un paio di settimane impegnative. Sono felice di riferire che ho fatto notevoli progressi su tre dei miei quattro obiettivi dell'ultima volta (affidabilità, ritardi e bug) e ho migliorato una serie di altre cose lungo il percorso. Ecco un esempio:
- Modificato Bluesky => fediverso dal polling al firehose . Ciò lo ha reso molto meno traballante e ha ridotto il ritardo di 5-15 m a pochi secondi.
- Risolto il problema con fediverse => Bluesky rimaneva bloccato per molti account. Ho preso alcune scorciatoie nella mia infrastruttura Bluesky e sono tornate a mordermi. C'è ancora del lavoro da fare, ma i problemi visibili agli utenti dovrebbero essere in gran parte risolti.
- Vari problemi con la ricerca degli account bot, il loro seguito e l'avvio del bridge .
Immagini fisse in Bluesky => post fediverse.
Implementata l'eliminazione dei post, Bluesky => fediverse. (Fediverse => Bluesky stava già funzionando.)- Risolto il problema relativo al bridging delle risposte in entrambe le direzioni.
- Risolti collegamenti , menzioni e hashtag , in entrambe le direzioni . Ancora alcuni pezzi rotti qui, in particolare i riferimenti a Bluesky => fediverse, ma per il resto ora dovrebbero essere molto migliori.
- Primo passaggio al filtraggio dello spam.
A parte le manichette antincendio, un'area degna di nota su cui non mi sono ancora concentrato è l'infrastruttura . Finora la scalabilità è ok, ma potrebbe essere molto migliore e molto più efficiente. Dovrò lavorarci su presto. Se noti che passa un po' di tempo senza molti miglioramenti visibili all'utente, probabilmente è proprio quello che sta succedendo.
Altrimenti, grazie per tutti i feedback, le domande e le segnalazioni di bug ! Per favore, continuate a farli arrivare. Come sempre, puoi seguire l' etichetta now in GitHub per vedere su cosa mi sto concentrando. Ci vediamo sul ponte!
brianvastag, Deleted my #bluesky account. Turning into another fucking twitter over there.
Cheesealicious, I'm thinking of checking out #bluesky now that dorsey left, but I can't find a list of bluesky servers/instances. Is the federation feature too new? I just don't wanna do bluesky.social because I don't want the bs of being in a mainstream instance.
mackuba, @Cheesealicious There's also no such thing as "The Algorithm" on Bluesky like on Twitter/Threads. There is instead a system where anyone can built their own "feeds" that pick posts using any filter or algorithm, and there's something like 50k of them right now. You can follow and pin any of them, and now you can even replace the default "Following" feed with some feed that you like.
mackuba, @Cheesealicious So, on the Fediverse, the instance is your community, your handle, hosts your data, does moderation for you and serves a web UI.
On #Bluesky, you use bsky.app (or 3rd party app) as the UI, host data on the PDS, use any domain as the handle, subscribe to some number of selected moderation services, and use search, hashtags and custom feeds to find interesting content and people.
davidbisset,
bobmagicii, @davidbisset for real i barely have enough time to make fun of the people here, yet alone a 2nd network.
mackuba, I sometimes wonder how things would've looked on #Bluesky if the first beta had been ready just 6 months earlier, if all those people who left Twitter for Mastodon could have gone there…
I've just checked the hashtag feed for #swiftlang and apparently there were 19 posts in total… (and 9 of those from me) 😕
fenarinarsa, Bluesky now allows you to unpin or even remove the default "Following" feed and make any other custom feed the default one.
The "Following" feed is the chronological one by Bluesky but there's thousands of other custom algorithmic feeds created by other users and generated by federated third party servers.
axx, @fenarinarsa So this is happening. It was a goal of Bluesky and the AT protocol, and it is becoming a reality, which is neat.
fenarinarsa, @axx yup federated feeds has been a reality since almost a year.
Now everything else is federated, including moderation.Other apps have been built on ATproto as well
https://fediversereport.com/video-audio-and-blogging-japanese-bluesky-is-building-in-the-atmosphere/And there’s also a bridge between ATproto and ActivityPub
https://www.fenarinarsa.com/?p=3176
fediversereport, New: Video, audio and blogging: Japanese #Bluesky is building in the ATmosphere
I take a look at 3 new products build on #atproto
Blogging with whtwnd.com
Video with bluemotion.app
Audio spaces with bluecast.appRead at: https://fediversereport.com/video-audio-and-blogging-japanese-bluesky-is-building-in-the-atmosphere/
seanbala, @fediversereport Thank you for sharing. It is exciting to see what is happening! I think your point at the end is really worth considering: is #Bluesky and the #ATProto interested in multiple apps or is it merely a vehicle for microblogging? I don't have technical background, but I suspect that the decentralization for BSKY is more for show than practice. Critique #ActivityPub all we like but I do think the commitment to platform diversity is there and is practiced.
maegul, There are problems here too. I suspect this is a fundamental issue that decentralised social media hasn’t taken seriously enough. It’s a bit like back and front end people not working together well. Protocol people can be inclined to underestimate the importance of what happens in the client, which IMO is where federation actually happens, as it’s there that platforms and UIs need to get stitched together.
I’ve ranted about this before (eg: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112319245679533802)
fenarinarsa, Bridgy Fed: how to enable federation with Bluesky for your account.
https://www.fenarinarsa.com/?p=3176
I tried to keep it short and simple.
fenarinarsa, French @Yamakyu Pour une fois que je reçois un badge de MVP XD
Yamakyu, French @fenarinarsa À mon avis t'en mérite d'autres, vu ton dévouement pour aider à naviguer et s'y retrouver dans le post-Twitter :torcat_keur:
migratory, Spanish I clicked a #bluesky toot or whatever they're called and it turns out they've implemented the most critical twitter feature: in-page loading spinners that make you wait several seconds for no fucking reason before you can read less than a kilobyte of text
mackuba, Spanish @migratory Officially "post", unofficially "skeet" 🙃
kohane,
emmecola,
mackuba, @emmecola I think this might not be implemented yet, but probably coming soon, I think it's this: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1027
I've pinged the Bridge author on Bluesky.
hgrsd, I'm trying to get a sense of what Bluesky is like. Do I have any followers who are active there, too? Would love to connect.
I'm at @hgrsd.bsky.social :)
Not leaving here, just exploring the world of social media.
beatnikprof, What is the point of #bluesky ? There is no engagement, and there is no joy.
ColesStreetPothole, @beatnikprof I know no one IRL on there. There doesn't seem to be community migration to that platform, just brands.
beatnikprof, @ColesStreetPothole There’s a lot of yelling. A lot.
hello, It's now possible to connect #Bluesky and #Fediverse accounts together, and talk across a bridge! We get into the nuts and bolts of how it works, and what you can do to get started! #BridgyFed
kaffeeringe, (edited ) German Das perfekte Social-Network! Ohne Moderation! Was könnte schiefgehen?
#Bluesky Gründer Jack Dorsey wollte ein Netzwerk schaffen, aus dem niemand gekickt werden kann. Wegen Meinungsfreiheit usw.
leobm, German @kaffeeringe ich glaube er ist bei Nostr engagiert.
kaffeeringe, German @leobm In dem Artikel liest es sich so, als sei das vor Bluesky gewesen.
gonzalo,
jraedisch,
dusnm, This is what #BlueSky considers a perfectly acceptable implementation of a two-factor authentication system.
Just send an email with the 2FA code. This is insanely irresponsible and I'm sure they know it.
Since most people unfortunately reuse passwords, any sane person must reasonably assume the email is likely to be compromised as well...
I have no clue why they don't use #TOTP. Unless the attacker has access to the device with the shared secret, it's borderline impossible to defeat.
mackuba, @dusnm This is a temporary solution they've implemented very recently as a "quick fix" because some accounts really needed it, and a proper implementation was still a bit away. They're working on a more complete authentication system with OAuth and proper 2FA, which should be available maybe in a couple of months.
dusnm, @mackuba TOTP can be considered a "quick fix" as it's trivial to implement.
josemurilo, Portuguese "#Jack recently deleted his account on #Bluesky, once pitched—by him—as #socialmedia’s decentralized solution to censorship, and left the company’s board. I reached out and asked him why, which is where our call began…what follows is a missing chapter of internet history that sheds light not only on Bluesky, but #Twitter, X, and the past 5 years of censorship & backlash. The future will be decentralized, or it won’t be free."
https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana
seachanger, Portuguese @josemurilo that is a fascinating and bizarre read
marix1, https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana
Interesting interview with Jack Dorsey. Why he left #Bluesky , the relationship with Twitter and what he thinks about #nostr.
Where I agree with him: The importance of identity handling and the need to divide (commercial) platform and protocol.
rolle, Bluesky enthusiasts are stating that Bluesky has ”plans” to make ATProto universal and transfer it to W3C or the like. Well, there is no evidence that Bluesky wants to give up control or the protocol is going to be widely adopted after 5 years of development so forgive me being sceptical. The story is a bit different with ActivityPub.
torgo, @rolle agree. If they were serious about this, they would commit to participate in social web working group and to moving toward full federation with the rest of the #Fediverse, instead of scoffing at anyone who raises these points.
schalkneethling,
yachtie,
Richard_Littler, Jack Dorsey is furious that #Bluesky has attracted "very very common" people. He also doesn't like the idea of moderation tools facilitating the banning of racists.
All these tech billionaires are like a version of the movie Big, in which a pre-adolescent boy wakes up in the body of an aging Howard Hughes. Or Colonel Kurtz. Or a sardine.
#JackDorsey
anathema_device,
binaryphile, @Richard_Littler And let's re-appreciate this gem from Dorsey's BS last year: https://www.engadget.com/bluesky-allowed-people-to-include-the-n-word-in-their-usernames-184049864.html
arnelson, The #Bridgy #BlueskyBridge is great from the Fediverse side, but the #Bluesky side is still missing a lot. Posts longer than the limit just get truncated; wouldn't a Read More link be better? And self-replies don't seem to get bridged at all, so threads don't work.
TVPaulD, If I could have one app that combined what all four of these Apps do, I would be so happy #BlueSky #Mastodon #Threads #Fediverse #AtProtocol