kakape, to H5N1
@kakape@mas.to avatar

Add another name to the list of mammal species infected with : alpacas.
It’s not surprising at this point but it certainly isn’t reassuring either that this virus just keeps spreading farther and wider…

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals/highly-pathogenic-avian

justyourluck, to H5N1
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

Huh. This is rather refreshing.

"We say we don’t believe that there are cases of H5 novel influenza circulating because we haven’t seen any evidence that would be suggestive of that. But until and unless we enhance our subtyping...

👉 we are basing that conclusion on negative implication rather than on affirmative data,” Shah said in the interview.

https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/21/h5n1-bird-flu-cdc-urges-summer-flu-surveillance/

CaroltheCrone, to H5N1
@CaroltheCrone@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

When H5N1 goes off the rails as it almost certainly will in the not-too-distant future, who do you want to be in charge of the country?

Competent leaders and scientists or a clown show. Because this stuff is not a joke.

A new unreviewed preprint is ringing alarm bells about the possibility of human to human transmission coming from cows. (Similar to the problem with pigs.) It's not good.

https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/21/h5n1-bird-flu-cdc-urges-summer-flu-surveillance/

chargrille, to H5N1
@chargrille@progressives.social avatar

Who is tracking closely?

Somewhat closely?

Who should I be following?

I have questions about the quality of research identifying temperature at which the virus is guaranteed to be killed.

Other questions too. Always with the questions.

kakape, to H5N1
@kakape@mas.to avatar

With latest update from @USDA the total number of herds affected in the outbreak in the US is 49 herds in 9 states (without widespread testing mind you…)
8 of the last 12 confirmations are from herds in Michigan

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/livestock

moira, (edited ) to random
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net avatar
beadsland, to random
@beadsland@disabled.social avatar

Sitting with the fact that cattle industry has more power over whether humans in their employ get tested for than authorities do.

Hence preparing to launch wastewater dashboard for tracking spring and summer influenza surveillance...

To address absence of testing. Taking a page out of the handbook of better too-late-to-be-actionable data than no data.

Statistics, as always, are structural.

justyourluck, to H5N1
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

Has it been proven that one cannot get infected with from non raw milk?

Because last I heard there have been no studies done.

Or am I wrong?

Because...

1/

justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

2/

Because on Apr 12, just 10 days after CDC published "Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus in Animals: Interim Recommendations for Prevention, Monitoring, and Public Health Investigations" that said:

"...should avoid unprotected direct physical contact or close exposure w/sick or dead birds or other animals, carcasses, feces,

milk

or litter from sick birds or other animals potentially infected or confirmed to be infected w/ HPAI A() virus."

...

justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar
justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

4/

The FDA seemed uncertain on Apr 25, a full 13 days AFTER "(raw)" was added to the CDC 's guidance:

"Additional testing is required to determine whether intact pathogen is still present and if it remains infectious"

Ya think??

Now, whether or not it has since been proven, the fact remains, they didn't yet know for sure and then played it down in the guidelines.

I find them all less than trustworthy. YMMV

grumpybozo,
@grumpybozo@toad.social avatar

@justyourluck If 20% of the US milk supply has , then we've already effectively done the study, because we don't have a human pandemic. We would, if it were possible for pasteurized milk to be a significant vector.

Also, we’ve known for decades that pasteurization effectively kills influenza viruses. Pasteurization degrades both the protein capsules protecting viruses and their genetic material. What is in milk after pasteurization are fragments, not whole viruses.

br00t4c, to random
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

Raw milk could be riskier amid avian flu outbreak in U.S. Stick to pasteurized dairy, experts warn

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/pasteurization-h5n1-1.7197170?cmp=rss

jetsilver, to H5N1
@jetsilver@ohai.social avatar

If you live in TX and you're not aware of H5N1 (Avian Flu), you really need to get it on your radar ASAP.

Due to various political/social factors in this state that I won't need to explain to anyone who lives here, it is quite likely that in the event this goes human to human this state will become an epicenter.

Also, anyone anywhere feeding their pets a raw diet, REALLY think about shifting that. This virus is transmitted through raw meat/dairy.

ivy, to H5N1
@ivy@veganism.social avatar

it makes me so impossibly sad to think that i may only have a couple years of seeing wild birds left with the way is going. but hey, the people have spoken: eating tortured chickens is priority number one, even if it drives an apocalyptic wildlife pandemic (and a human one, too!). healthy, delicious, climate-friendly alternatives be damned.

genuinely, what the actual fuck are we doing???

KeithDJohnson, to random
@KeithDJohnson@sfba.social avatar

We're Watching The Elite Panic in Real Time
by Jessica Wildfire

"The situation is evolving daily now. Farmers & ranchers are starting to show "bird flu-like symptoms," but they aren't getting tested. Nobody is forcing them, either. The USDA is inspecting ground beef, but only in states with outbreaks in dairy cows, & only because other countries started rejecting our beef. As one epidemiologist told Scientific American, "We don't have a good sense of the spread because testing is voluntary and certainly not being done in a systematic way."

Avian flu has been spreading for months in cattle, & none of our government institutions can tell us anything except, "Don't panic."

It's pathetic.

You can look at nuclear meltdowns, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, & pandemics. Almost every single time, government authorities rush out to calm down the population. They censor accurate information. They put most of their emphasis on protecting the assets of the rich***."
https://www.okdoomer.io/were-watching-the-elite-panic-in-real-time/

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