> Wouldn’t it be amazing to be able to collect reactions from other personal websites or large platforms when we publish something on our own sites? And wouldn’t it be exciting if we could actually enable decentralized conversations across our websites, by letting our sites talk to each other?
@nhoizey au sujet des webmentions, côté Dotclear on fournit le endpoint via un header, je me demande si tout le monde le gère ou s'il ne faudrait pas ajouter aussi une ligne dans le <head> ; t'as des billes là-dessus ?
Currently getting my head round webfinger, webmention, indielogin, and the like: a mix of standards, experiments, and some decent results.
When does it make sense to use webfinger link relations vs link tags with rel(ationship) attributes in the <head> section of a web page? Are these equivalent features that just happen to have grown up in parallel or is there some rationale delineating the two?
Any clarifying articles greatly appreciated, as are boosts.
> Wouldn’t it be amazing to be able to collect reactions from other personal websites or large platforms when we publish something on our own sites? And wouldn’t it be exciting if we could actually enable decentralized conversations across our websites, by letting our sites talk to each other?
My blog imports replies from other social media sites and displays them as comments.
This sometimes leads to people replying on my site rather than to the original commenter.
So I've hacked my WordPress theme to say "Reply on example.com" to give people the choice to leave a public comment or a more private reply.
@pfefferle I think that's semantically wrong. Replies, especially in AP, chain together a conversation. Implicitly when you reply you're expecting a reply to your reply. But blog posts contain links that are more like "over here X said Y and it got me thinking: perhaps Z?" or "Remember A? Well, I'm now proposing B." In cases like that you're not really participating in the conversation, you're starting a new conversation. The person you're "replying" to would probably consider your comment intrusive, and if they replied to you, you would probably consider that intrusive too.
There's also the problem, especially on Mastodon, that posts are expected to be short and part of a back-and-forth, but Wordpress articles are often long. "Replying" to a two-sentence toot with a six-paragraph dissertation makes people really angry.
In fact I actually would like my blog posts to be replies, but only to particular posts that I specify. I'd only want to do that if I really intend to inject myself into someone else's conversation. So it should have a UI similar to adding an excerpt or categories - an extra step, not automatic.
Integrating my website into the IndieWeb took longer than expected due to scattered resources and confusion. Should I do X or Y? Having too many options to choose from can lead to paralysis.
We don't want that, do we?
We want something simple, something that allows as many people as possible to get on board. An omakase 🍱.
Here's mine. You should start and finish everything within an hour at most!
Since I've gotten exactly one webmention for my blog, I obviously had to put some work in to display this webmention on my blog. 😄 Had to do some reading to figure out how to make Hugo download external resources, but otherwise it was pretty smooth sailing. Much thanks to https://webmention.io/. Still not implemented sending webmentions yet though.
@henrikjernevad Looks like I'd need to add IndieAuth support to my (WriteFreely) web site before I could use webmention.io. Probably not worth the effort.
@steffoz Just got me first newsletter from your site and enjoyed reading it. I'm still trying to figure out the interconnection myself but ❤ the IndieWeb!