@jon@vivaldi.net
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jon

@jon@vivaldi.net

I have been working with Web technologies since 1992. I have co-founded two browser companies, Opera Software and Vivaldi Technologies. I was CEO at Opera and I am CEO at Vivaldi.

I am a strong proponent of open standards. I believe in building feature rich products that can be adapted to the needs of users without collecting information about usage. I believe no company has the right to profile their users.

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jon, to Iceland
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Another eruption in Iceland. Same place. Wall of fire. Spectacular live stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5JBPyrjmaE

jon, (edited ) to random
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What is your favorite Sausage / HOT DOG?

In some countries, sausage is a big part of the culture. It is clearly the case in Iceland and Norway, although others will likely claim to have more of an ownership to it.

But what is your favorite? I will list a few options, but I am sure you will have options I have never heard of or tried and I would like to know what I am missing!

  1. The Icelandic hot dog is a big deal and a hot dog stand is one of the more popular restaurants in Reykjavík! Typically served with ketchup, mustard, raw onion, fried, dry onions and remoulade.

  2. Norwegian hotdog. Typically served at a gas station. Similar condiments as in Iceland. Fan favorite is cheese sausage wrapped in bacon and shrimp salad.

  3. Danish sausage with bread. Instead of a hot dog, the typical Danish sausage is served with a side of short bread, ketchup and mustard.

  4. Polish sausage or Kielbase. Large sausage with plenty of taste. Side of bread and condiments.

  5. Bratwurst. Fried German sausage. Typically served with bread, ketchup and mustard on the side. A lot of variations, though, including curry wurst.

  6. English pork sausage. Often served with breakfast.

jon, to windows
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ICQ is closing down. It was really at its height in 2000 and that is when we integrated ICQ into Opera. We made a small (5k) client and it worked really well.

AOL had purchased ICQ and they were concerned about MSN taking users from them by connecting to their service, so they stopped supporting 3rd party clients. We contacted them, to see if they would make an exception for us, but they did not.

They said that if we removed our 5k client, we could maybe discuss bundling their client, but it was bigger than Opera, so that was not going to happen.

#Windows #Computers #PC #ICQ #AOL #MSN #Vivaldi

jon, to windows
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Sounds like Microsoft Recall to me...

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/22/spyware-found-on-hotel-check-in-computers/

jon, to microsoft
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Microsoft Recall:

"As you use your PC, Recall takes snapshots of your screen. Snapshots are taken every five seconds while content on the screen is different from the previous snapshot. "

Part of Copilot. Big brother is watching.

jon,
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@Francehelder

Might well be.

jon,
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@WolfeSuccinctly

This is being marketed as a way to find back to stuff you have seen before. I think it will make cool demos and might be useful at times, but I think the cost is likely (much) higher than the gain.

Generally we have found that whenever we get functionality based on data collection, you have to ask what that data is also used for. Likely that is the real use case.

bumble, to Vivaldi

OK, who broke @Vivaldi?

I received an update overnight on both my android devices and now none my PWAs load. 😔

6.7.3335.85

jon,
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@daj @bumble @Vivaldi

Got reported yesterday. Fixed today, but will take a few days for an update to be released.

jon, to ArtificialIntelligence
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Results on my about trackpad tap to click.

114 responded.

65% enable tap to click and love it!
29% disable tap to click.
6% had tap to click enabled and hate it!

So about two thirds prefer tap to click.

Personally I would argue that it should be off by default, but I belong to the last group. I was finding that I was having a lot of issues with my trackpad and most went away when I changed the setting. I still have an issue at times that clicking sometimes leads to right clicking.

I have been using trackpoints for years, so I guess I am rather used to an experience with clear button clicks.

jon,
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@leeloo @kly

Indeed. That is the reason why, IMHO, touching should not click. Only clicking should. Kind of like moving a mouse does not click, it just moves the cursor. Clicking requires clicking a button.

Now it is clear that most of those that took the survey do not find this a problem. Maybe it is a question of how you sit with your computer, angle and size of fingers, etc.

jon,
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@leeloo @kly

For me the Mac was just as bad or even worse. The multi layer trackpad, made it really hard. Soft click, hard click. I would click and it did not work. So I would click harder, but that is another function. This is the opposite of the simplicity that Apple would stand for in the past. Now, some of that simplicity was too much for me, that that is question of preference. I prefer separate buttons to overloaded buttons.

jon,
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@leeloo @kly

I think the Magic Pad technology got introduced back in 2014 or so. It has features like this:

"Click: Press anywhere on the trackpad. Or enable “Tap to click” in Trackpad preferences,
and simply tap.

Force click: Press firmly until you feel a deeper click. You can force click to look up more
information—on a word to see its definition, on an address to see a preview in Maps, and more. "

So in my case, I was struggling with having the right level of click, so I would click harder to make sure it worked, but then I force clicked. After reading the documentation, it got easier, but I still did not like it.

Now, if you would enable tap to click as well, you would have three levels of clicking potentially, although tap to click and click are normally the same thing.

jon,
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@zbrando , I have had a lot of Thinkpads over the years. I also had the Thinkpad anniversary edition. Right now I am testing something else.

Nobody makes the laptop I want with all the features I want. Sad, but true.

jon, (edited ) to random
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I have been using Thinkpads for years and been using Trackpoints. I love the technology, but we getting a bit of strain in my fingers, so wanted to try something else, so using a laptop with a touchpad instead. Finding that I kept clicking things by mistake. Thought there was something wrong with my laptop, but then found there was a setting for clicking things my mistake and it was called "Tap to click" and a similar one for right clicking. Both were on by default.

I guess I am one of those that prefers to click when I want to click and not have a slight touch of the touchpad register as a click. The touchpad has to differentiate between clicking, scrolling, moving, etc., so having everything with the same level of pressure seems likely to lead to mistakes.

What about you? Do you enable tap to click?

jon,
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@stardust

That would not fix my issue, which is basically clicking when I am trying to scroll. Scrolling means touching the pad with two fingers and dragging your fingers across the pad. I guess the timing needs to be just right so that this does not get seen as a click.

Generally I find things that rely too much on timing to be PITA.

jon, to random
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I did a survey to check how many of you have used one of my browsers, Opera or Vivaldi, with Vivaldi being my current browser company and Opera being my old one.

A lot of you shared your story and that is much appreciated.

1061 did the survey.

61% had used both Opera and Vivaldi.
15% had used Opera
12% had used Vivaldi
11% had never used either.

Thank you all for joining in. I hope those of you that are not using Vivaldi, will give it a try.

Chances are you just might like it!

https://vivaldi.com

brucelawson, to random
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82 people are running to be President of Iceland, at least 11 of them accidentally. "As a content designer, I was intrigued. How could so many people accidentally start a campaign for President of Iceland?" https://uxdesign.cc/how-do-you-accidentally-run-for-president-of-iceland-0d71a4785a1e

jon,
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@WildEnte

No, there is enough of people doing that...😀

mattly, to random
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ugh, I’m shopping for a new macOS mail client, I need:

  • multiple fastmail / imap / gmail accounts
  • multiple aliases per account
  • modifier-less keyboard commands
  • must NOT use a third-party server for ANYTHING (rules out Spark)
  • must have an option to disable remote images
  • sort/view by sender & thread
  • I have a very high bar for subscription fees; Edison/Canary/Newton don’t cut it

I’ve been doing email since 1994, my favorite clients have been Claris Em@iler, Mutt, Spark, & Sparrow

jon,
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@ak @mattly @Vivaldi

By default we open mail links in the browser. If requested, I am sure we could add the option to open it somewhere else, but that has not been requested so far. There is significant benefit with having the two integrated.

You will find we have a lot of useful functionality in there. You mention keyboard commands. How about T to view a thread? E to view a contact? Besides the normal keyboard shortcuts. In fact you can tailor them to your own liking. G to mark a mail as read and jump to the next unread one is a personal favorite.

We disable third party content by default.

We have a very effective search solution that allows you to find any mail inside seconds. Means you can spend less time moving mails around.

Enjoy! Let me know what you think!

jon, to Vivaldi
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If you used M2 in Opera and enjoyed it, you really should be using Vivaldi Mail (M3).

If you have never used M2 or M3, maybe it is time to give it a try?

https://vivaldi.com/features/mail/

jon,
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@aronkvh

We do things a bit differently at times and not without reason, but we will continue to polish what we got based on feedback.

What is special about Vivaldi Mail in many ways is that the database. It makes it really fast and easy to find mails. We use the same for feeds. There is a benefit there, but we also have a separate feed panel, for those that want to keep the feeds separate.

What we find is that for those that spend the time to learn how to use Vivaldi Mail, they want to keep using it. It really is that unique.

jon,
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@aronkvh

I guess it is a question of learning a few of the tricks. Some suggestions:

  1. Only show direct mails in the unread folder. Hide custom folders and mailing lists.

  2. Move important mailing lists into the important folder. Close the other folder and only click the parent folder to see what is inside.

  3. Learn to use the view toggles. Use different settings for different folders, depending on what makes sense. I often hide unread mails to only show new ones, for example.

  4. Use keyboard shortcuts, such as T to view a thread and E to view the contact.

  5. Undo is your friend. If you mark a mail as read, use Undo to bring it back.

  6. Personally I queue mails for later sending. I guess it is old school undo sending mail...

  7. Prefetch all mails. That means all the mail gets indexed.

  8. Search is a function you should expect to use a lot. It is fast. Thus you can spend less time organizing your mail.

jon, (edited ) to Vivaldi
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I have been building browsers for 30 years now. First Opera and now Vivaldi. My estimate is that more than 1 billion have used one of my browsers or both. Have you?

Feel free to share your story!

jon,
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@peturbg

I am co-founder and CEO of Vivaldi. Sadly I am not contributing much on the coding side anymore. I did more of that at Opera, where I was also co-founder and CEO until 2010.

jon,
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@XanderMeters

It does. We made it.

jon,
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@rob

Maybe try to get your workplace to allow Vivaldi, if that is the problem?

Interesting on AI. In any case, if you want to use AI, you just go to pages that have it or add it as a Web panel.

jon,
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@rob

That reminds me of the earlier days of the Web, when there was an export restriction on encryption from the US. Thus non-US versions of Netscape and IE had 40 bit keys, while the US ones had 128 bit.

Opera was a Norwegian company, so we could deliver 128 bit keys outside of the US.

Still the banks in Norway and elsewhere would recommend Netscape and IE.

jon,
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@rob

The FUD from Microsoft has worked. At the same time Microsoft is blurring the line between what is local on your computer and what is in the cloud, which IMHO is a security issue. So is the tracking that most of those browsers engage in.

There is a reason we are making Vivaldi. It is because those 4 choices are not good enough for our users.

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