It's up to us to make this work. Start subscribing to magazines that you're interested in. Post a few things. I truly believe we can make this the next reddit and a much better one at that.
I just need a good reader that allows me to view lemmy stuff and kbin stuff in a Reddit-like interface and I’m good. Been a redditor since 2010 or so, really sick over what they’ve become.
This one is already really similar to reddit at least, I long for the bar at the top that shows all the communities I'm subbed too, it's definitely possible the people running this one will make changes too
I managed to get a view that is pretty similar to that by hitting the hamburger menu on the upper left and clicking on the gear icon, then “Show Top Bar”. There were a ton of super useful settings there but it was pretty buried.
I found how to get the top bar to show similar how RES had it, but is there a way to have it only show subscribed mags or choose which ones I want to show? Right now it just shows random mags I'm not subbed to.
Click the thing between + and your username that looks like bullet points and text. A menu will appear. Click Subscribed and only the magazines you subscribed to will appear.
Especially since the whole site is based on the free work of the mods and the users submitting content. The whole thing is like a Ponzi scam where the users and the mods are the lowest tier in the scam and reddit's admins and all the sites that get traffic through reddit are at the top.
There were so many ways reddit's owners could have gone about this and actually made money while making the userbase happy and not antagonizing their free labor.
Reddit knows they’re only losing a small portion of their users. The users that are leaving, however, are the core users. They’re the moderators that keep the subreddits clean. The longtime users that have been providing quality content for 5+ years.
I think we’re going to see a drastic change in reddits content after this. I’ve already deleted my 11y account, but I’m going to keep an eye on the site over the next couple months (via old.reddit.com, of course) and see what happens.
I hope we’ll see websites like kbin grow and thrive. I already have confidence in the developers and maintainers, and so far the user base is amazing. Even though I have to use a web app on my iPhone, which does have some bugs, I’m already committed.
I would like to say, though, PLEASE provide feedback and suggestions for kbin. Let’s make this site what Reddit should have been. Let’s make it 1000% more appealing to would-be new Reddit users. We’ve all got this.
There isn't a native mobile app, but this website is what's known as a "progressive web application". This means that you can just add it directly to your home screen and it will act app-like. See this thread for exact iOS instructions. Android is similar but does depend on which browser you're using.
sometimes it's just labeled "Add to homescreen". not sure if it's a change on Kbin's end and whether it'll behave the same way or open in a regular tab, though.
yeah, I guess something's changed with Kbin's configuration over the past few days, then. I've still got the PWA "installed" and it shows separate from Firefox (you can see Firefox proper on the left side):
I'm currently using DuckDuckGo browser (Chromium based if I'm not mistaken) and it works fine. My guess is that Chrome and Fennec (Firefox) will do fine.
For Android: navigate to your kbin instance and press the hamburger menu (the 3 lines or dots in your browser) and there should be a command like "install to home screen". Choose that command and a shortcut will be placed on your homwscreen and in your app drawer. Opening this shortcut will take you directly to your kbin instance.
BTW, you can use this the create shortcuts to basically every webpage. I've got shortcuts to my favorite webshops (including product filters and all)
Hey, thanks! I know the "home screen" functionality and use it regularly. I asked because I use Fennec (Firefox mobile fork) primarily, but wanted to have one browser for kbin only, to keep it separate. I tried with Fennec and Bromite and felt it was a bit janky on Fennec and wasn't working properly on Bromite so just wanted to hear other people's thoughts and suggestions.
Imagine the blackout extending to more than two days.
While Reddit will absolutely fake their traffic numbers, claiming this is just brigading, we need to completely decouple from Reddit.
While it's regrettable that kbin.social doesn't have any mobile apps yet, I found that the browser version on my Android works pretty well. I loved using kbin.social on my android firefox browser.
Fuck Reddit. Fuck their monopolistic practices. Fuck anyone that tries these terrorist practices.
Next up - if Discord do something similarly boneheaded, we must have a Discord alternative. I'm already regretting paying them $30 for the Nitro basic version - it basically does nothing!
Why? If they do dumb shit it will be the same as Reddit, you'll have to migrate over. Just use Matrix to begin with, it's already federated and you can self-host. Promoting corporation-owned platforms is never the answer
Seems I'll need to go ahead of my group of friends on a few things again. Matrix and Element, prepare servers on there for if/when Discord does something boneheaded (basically the only thing that can get the majority of peeps I know to migrate)
Discord already implemented the username update which was pretty stupid but I don't see any organised pushback from users. I've tried to get my group onto element instead but it's near impossible.
The shit is already hitting the fan at discord, with their useless username changes being the most recent thing no one asked for. They also have an API which tons of 3rd party apps and bots rely on. It's only a matter of time before they pull a reddit.
I know there's some talk of making this a monthly thing until change happens. No clue if that'll pick up traction or make a difference, but it's good to see.
Luckily, there are Discord alternatives that exist. A lot of them actually, I think a lot of them are open sourced. I know there's Matrix and Revolt (I quite like Revolt a lot, so I hope that goes somewhere). They do lack some things (I think screensharing being the biggest?) but they capture the essence of discord. Will they take off hard? Who knows. I'd like Revolt to a lot, it just feels nice to use.
Guilded and Revolt are my top 2 discord alternatives. Guilded is proprietary and was bought by Roblox, Revolt is open source. I haven’t fully tried Revolt but it looks promising. Guilded has many nitro features for free and extra features that discord doesn’t have. Only thing holding it back IMO is a lack of a large user base and the fact the people are so opposed to change. My friends actually laughed at me and called it a discord knockoff when I tried to get the server to move
won't they get in a shitton of trouble for that with the SEC if they try to IPO with fake usage numbers? or maybe it will just be numbers that are technically correct but lack serious context, like the "impressions" on twitter videos.
Chat as a social platform felt like such a low bar for me. Discord itself is such a violent collection of colours and features, just an overall unenjoyable experience. It's also just ICQ, as Slack was IIRC.
I'm going to sound old and yell at the clouds right, so look away if you wish, sound but they did just monetized two communication methods that already existed, were free, but not branded for the masses.
Never saw the appeal of Discord. It's just a bloated chat. On top of that it is incredibly annoying. Their Linux client is hot garbage and they constantly ask for me to manually input my password again, which means I constantly have to dig into my password manager since it is a very complex one (and IIRC it had to be a complex one too). It also just annoys me that everyone and their grandmother has their own discord channel and thinks they have to advertise it every time. This just makes me want to use it even less.
Unfortunately, any that remain closed after Tuesday will just be forced back open by the admins and rebellious moderators will probably get replaced with desperate yes-men looking for an opportunity to grab some power from the forming vacuum.
The mid-to-long-term are where things are gonna get interesting. When the experienced volunteer mods are replaced with people who think the job is easier than it is. They won’t have a lot of tools necessary to actually moderate larger subreddits thanks to the API changes killing a lot of those tools, and eventually people will get tired of moderating stuff without any form of compensation and without automod tools, things will fall apart. It’s just gonna be disappointing to watch it continue on until it reaches that point. Hopefully places like Kbin, Lemmy, and Tildes continue to grow in the meantime and can get enough momentum from this to properly take off.
Unfortunately, any that remain closed after Tuesday will just be forced back open by the admins and rebellious moderators will probably get replaced with desperate yesmen looking for an opportunity to grab som slower from the forming vacuum.
I said this in another thread, reddit won't shutter, they'll likely see growth because of their aggressive marketing and a willingness for people to volunteer as mods for a small taste of power
I don't think mods are easily replaceable on a large scale. It would be difficult to vet people because there are plenty of folks with ulterior motives and want to use it for advertising , etc.
But if enough subs have to have their mod teams replaced eventually they will run out of quality people to replace them (if they can find any in the first place). Its going to be chaotic and can easily cascade into something that kills reddit or forces them to stop using volunteers to run major subreddits
I’ve been really impressed so far. Even through a web app the experience has been good so far. (Slow, to be expected with the unexpected strain on servers. I’m hoping more servers spin up as it gets more popular.)
It's just so interesting to me how palpable the sense of anger was in those responses. Seem to just be super angry that people are making a big deal out of this rather than rolling over. I think the fact that Christian was able to catch him in a lie with the alleged "threat" is a super sore point.
Very much wondering if they go scorched earth over some of this stuff at some point, feels like something like that may be in the air.
I reckon they will start replacing mods on the multimillion subscriber subs with yes men and then they’ll reopen them if this goes on more than a few days.
Louis Rossmann is right about 48–72-hour blackout doing nothing, it must be total shut down of the subreddits. If enough of the people who contribute the most to Reddit leave it may hurt them enough to change their minds.
From what I understand, after 48 hours of a sub going dark/private the moderators can be removed? Is that true?
Otherwise, completely agree with Louis.
Reddit controls Reddit, they don't have to give you any timeline for being removed from the platform and taking control over the subs. The obvious way of doing things is to let the subs moderate themselves, but push comes to shove you can rest assured that they'll reinstate at least the bigger subs, since they do in fact make money for Reddit.
And you know for a fact there are already users waiting in the shadows, wringing their hands, that have been waiting for an "opportunity" to take over a big sub like this.
According to Reddit’s chief executive Steve Huffman, it’s become too costly to keep the API access free when the platform itself is struggling to make ends meet.
Right, struggling so hard they desperately need to squeeze $20 million dollars out of one guy by the end of the month. Reddit's about to be evicted from their garage, y'all, they only made $350 million in 2021
When asked about the blackmail allegations, Huffman said: Selig's "behavior and communications with us has been all over the place—saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call—to the point where I don’t know how we could do business with him.”
Absolutely cannot believe this bitch. Spez is everyone's abusive ex, going full DARVO in the hopes no one actually looks into any of it. "How dare Christian publicly share a legal recording of me deliberately misrepresenting that call! I simply cannot trust someone who lies all the time!"
I never for a moment expected him to back down. He has too many people with too much money breathing down his pencil neck and his ego is paper thin. But he could at least go sit in the corner and experience human embarrassment for a minute
48 hours of going ”dark” is going to accomplish jack shite but a couple of petty articles mocking how people couldn’t even survive more than 48 hours without their Reddits.
Popular subs extending their protest will be taken over by Reddit and be reopened to the public. Deleted subs will spawn substitutes. For every mod refusing to mod, there will be probably 100k nerds fighting over to do it. Everything is going back to business as usual.
And yeah, I’m sticking to Kbin, but I still see many issues that will prevent this whole fediverse-thing to attract or retain enough users to even make Reddit look behind. Hopefully with years of refinement this concept can provide the kind of easy access to info and communities that Reddit offers, but right now it’s very empty and not user/casual friendly.
Watching the live stream of subs going dark made me remember just how many people are on Reddit. This is mass public. Old, young, tech savvy and illiterate.
I worry after this protest it'll be business as usual for 90+% of people on it.
I'm hopeful the people who left and came here or other platforms are the people that will spearhead a new community to attract the rest of Reddit's very broad userbase.
We've been burnt too many times by greed. We need to make decentralization stick this time.
I don’t love the fact that they discuss the blackmail allegation and then leave out the fact that Christian had a recording to disprove this. I’m glad they said he disputed it, but when there are tapes… you should probably say there are tapes.
behavior and communications with us has been all over the place—saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally
Not sure if this is just spez talking about himself, not the Apollo dev. I also love that it also then adds like a "how dare they release the tapes proving me wrong". Maybe they wouldn't have to if you didn't try to pull this shit. Honestly it does sound bad in the recording with the contextual areas removed, but with full context you can see a point was trying to be made via a hypothetical about how if reddit truly believes these API prices are reasonable, such an "investment" by reddit would be considered a financial win for them. But its not, because the API prices are unreasonable and they know it. And spez fully apologizes in the call for misunderstanding, yet ignores that when he brings it up later. Scummy.
I hope enough users abandon them that it hurts them greatly. I would like to see reddit fail hard because of this. There are obviously other sites to migrate to. We can create a better community. Fuck Spez!
mine is this balloon i got from dollar tree when i was having a bad day. did you know that you can just buy your own balloons for any reason or no reason?
I already do see a huge change. Fediverse just got a big influx of users and there is already a general message there that Reddit is not the only place that exists.
Reddit does not need to change and can continue existing as a shitty site keeping all the users. Believe me. You don't wan't Reddit to shut down or more users coming to Fediverse in a bulk, because that would take many instances down.
Even if the hardware was unlimited... for me things look here very good. I am completely fine with all the weirdos staying on Reddit keeping this place civil.
But in the end the question is what is your expectation.
If you want revolution and see downfall of reddit, that is not gonna happen. Probably.
If you are searching for a more reasonable place to chat with people, well you are here. Congrats :)
They don't even need to NOT charge for API connections... They could just charge a reasonable fee, and allow 3rd party apps enough time to accommodate for them. Giving developers 30 days to figure out how to make their apps feasible AND implement that change on all their users is absurd.
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